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jkool666 04-03-2006 10:20 PM

Changes To Zone
 
Ok well, I stoped to think about this... Zone sucked more since more weapons were added. Back when there was only a few well thought out weapons it was amazing. But since new weapons get added more ways for people to be noobs is added... And theres already enough noobs... Heres the things that need to be changed or taken out...
1. Bluepistols, Redpistols, Blue Rifle, Red Rifle, Handgun, laserforce, magnums, and Storm Rifle...
2. To be changed is the invisible mines... That is the most unfair type of weapons there is... Something that is a one hit kill (if your smart) that is almost impossible to detect unless you want to instantly die... You equip a grenade and mine detector... First you must blow up the mines (normally placed at B1 where there are 10 people shooting at you) then you need to make sure you run away fast enough while you are getting destroyed by 10 people...
3. The entire zone wars map... That map has to many problems with it, its almost better to just get rid of it...

Continue with making your maps, but add no weapons...

MrsMastermind 04-03-2006 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
1. Bluepistols, Redpistols, Blue Rifle, Red Rifle, Handgun, laserforce, magnums, and Storm Rifle...

I agree here, except for Stormrifle, it's cool.
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666
2. To be changed is the invisible mines... That is the most unfair type of weapons there is... Something that is a one hit kill (if your smart) that is almost impossible to detect unless you want to instantly die... You equip a grenade and mine detector... First you must blow up the mines (normally placed at B1 where there are 10 people shooting at you) then you need to make sure you run away fast enough while you are getting destroyed by 10 people...

I also agree to this.
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666
3. The entire zone wars map... That map has to many problems with it, its almost better to just get rid of it...

Continue with making your maps, but add no weapons

Zone Wars is going to be replaced by GW.

SayianOozaru 04-03-2006 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666
Ok well, I stoped to think about this... Zone sucked more since more weapons were added. Back when there was only a few well thought out weapons it was amazing. But since new weapons get added more ways for people to be noobs is added... And theres already enough noobs... Heres the things that need to be changed or taken out...
1. Bluepistols, Redpistols, Blue Rifle, Red Rifle, Handgun, laserforce, magnums, and Storm Rifle...
2. To be changed is the invisible mines... That is the most unfair type of weapons there is... Something that is a one hit kill (if your smart) that is almost impossible to detect unless you want to instantly die... You equip a grenade and mine detector... First you must blow up the mines (normally placed at B1 where there are 10 people shooting at you) then you need to make sure you run away fast enough while you are getting destroyed by 10 people...
3. The entire zone wars map... That map has to many problems with it, its almost better to just get rid of it...

Continue with making your maps, but add no weapons...

I think the more weapons, the more different styles of fighting people can use, which makes for better game play for more people. In the begining, there were only a max of 38 people, now that theres more weapons our max every weekend is about 76-84 players.

jkool666 04-03-2006 11:59 PM

But the percentage of noobs has skyrocketed...

SayianOozaru 04-04-2006 12:09 AM

Ya...but everyone is a newb at one time, and a newb is someone new to something...so we give the 'newbs' the time to decide on weather to quit, or to upgrade :)

anubis_wing 04-04-2006 01:44 AM

Describe *newb* is it someone who is lame or is it someone who abuses the wep?

theHAWKER 04-04-2006 02:44 AM

I think that the more weapons the more fun people can have!!
i mean you can't have very much fun if your a p2p and you have nothing beter then a trail!!!!

Sulukra 04-04-2006 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666
3. The entire zone wars map... That map has to many problems with it, its almost better to just get rid of it...

Continue with making your maps, but add no weapons...

I don't agree with this. First of all, its just a waste of a good map to get rid of it. However, I do agree that it needs changes.

1. If you're going to fix speeders, just switch them with the ones on Iricia.

2. Light side is just too fast. Either make the Mechs faster or the light side slower.

3. Beam. Seriously, just make it sap energy instead of health and allow it to all ranks, not just soldier and above.

MisterMastermind 04-04-2006 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulukra
I don't agree with this. First of all, its just a waste of a good map to get rid of it. However, I do agree that it needs changes.

1. If you're going to fix speeders, just switch them with the ones on Iricia.

2. Light side is just too fast. Either make the Mechs faster or the light side slower.

3. Beam. Seriously, just make it sap energy instead of health and allow it to all ranks, not just soldier and above.

1. Exactly, just give them firepower here.
2. Lightside slower.
3. It should just stun. If Light Side needs to team to destroy speeders Dark Side should be able to team to destroy people.

Huwajux 04-04-2006 08:53 PM

No! Not bluerifle! :( That's actually an original idea, it was based on a stronger SMG yet you had to buy it. What made it seem unoriginal was the smelly red rifle. All the other weapons (That you said) need to go...now.

Sulukra 04-04-2006 10:29 PM

Except they can't really get rid of the ones that they released with the christmas package without vast amounts of complaints happening because those people paid good money for those and other things.

Crono 04-04-2006 10:39 PM

In my opinion Zone was best right after Zone Wars was released. It went downhill after that.

Too many weapons added, Zone Wars changed for the worse, Deathmatch dominated events. Etc.

MisterMastermind 04-04-2006 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulukra
Except they can't really get rid of the ones that they released with the christmas package without vast amounts of complaints happening because those people paid good money for those and other things.

Exactly. BR is a good weapon, RR seems to be amazingly overpowered. RP and BP should just get new names, and maybe different GFX. Neither of them are as powerful, in the right hands, as appirces.

Zulu15 04-04-2006 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru
I think the more weapons, the more different styles of fighting people can use, which makes for better game play for more people. In the begining, there were only a max of 38 people, now that theres more weapons our max every weekend is about 76-84 players.

What's a RP but a faster version of the Ap-Ripper? What is the Bp but the same thing as the RP. You can't keep putting out weapons that do the same thing and say it adds more stradegy to the game.

In my opinion we need some more support items; Shields, Steriods etc.

someonesomewhere 04-05-2006 02:23 AM

Look, I have an opinion, and sadly, most of the time I'm ignored.

BUT NOT TODAY!

Zone Wars used to pwnz0rz everything else.

But, the most obvious thing that caused its ultimate demise:

Event Weapons.

How retarded it is to make Event weapons not able to be deflcted was just dumb. It caused massive amounts of laming, and, I'll admit, I contributed to much of that with my Red Pistols.

Also, you can take away my RPs, but I want a custom weapon that has 100 auto-regen. ammo (Like LR Pulsar), does 1 damage per bullet, gives no damage freeze, and also shoots twice as fast as a chaingun. Also, it should shoot within a 5 degree cone of the barrel of the gun.

Raeiphon 04-05-2006 06:01 PM

Yeah, and give me a RPT (Rocket Propelled Troll) launcher so I can kill people with utter abrasiveness then laugh at thin air as their corpse magically evaporates.

And change the name of Zone to Guerilla Warfare and give us all spiffy capes with long bushy hair and i'm fine.

MisterMastermind 04-05-2006 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Raeiphon
long bushy hair

If you hate the hair, harm will befall you.

Raeiphon 04-06-2006 08:54 AM

Pubic hair revolts, and I lose my most treasured nads.

darknesskido 04-06-2006 08:57 AM

get rid of bluerifle? are you mad!!!!

Akoalin 04-06-2006 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by someonesomewhere
Look, I have an opinion, and sadly, most of the time I'm ignored.

BUT NOT TODAY!

Zone Wars used to pwnz0rz everything else.

But, the most obvious thing that caused its ultimate demise:

Event Weapons.

How retarded it is to make Event weapons not able to be deflcted was just dumb. It caused massive amounts of laming, and, I'll admit, I contributed to much of that with my Red Pistols.

Also, you can take away my RPs, but I want a custom weapon that has 100 auto-regen. ammo (Like LR Pulsar), does 1 damage per bullet, gives no damage freeze, and also shoots twice as fast as a chaingun. Also, it should shoot within a 5 degree cone of the barrel of the gun.

You want to get rid of event weapons but you want a custom weapon?
I think we should just get rid of event weapons for good, give the people who had event weapons money and take the weapons away. They're crapping up the server.

Magadal 04-06-2006 08:19 PM

Zone is like Graal Kingdoms...you made a very very big mistake...it is nearly all based on event weapons...

Crono 04-06-2006 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magadal
Zone is like Graal Kingdoms...you made a very very big mistake...it is nearly all based on event weapons...

I agree.

At first event weapons were great on zone. They were -rare-.

Now everyone (except me) and their uncles have one.

MisterMastermind 04-06-2006 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami
I agree.

At first event weapons were great on zone. They were -rare-.

Now everyone (except me) and their uncles have one.

I said this on 20 different posts 2 months ago. Not a single person listened to me.:frown:

darknesskido 04-07-2006 08:55 AM

i think, all event weapons should be buyable, and tottaly nw event weapons should be out, 1 event every 2-3 months stop after 3 events :) i would like that :)

Huwajux 04-07-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
Not a single person listened to me.:frown:

I wonder why...
Event weapons should be removed from the game. Someone along time ago, suggested new skins for weapons instead of new weapons altogether. I personally think it would be a lot better.

Elk 04-07-2006 04:35 PM

i remember when there was only 1 planet
that was cool...

MrsMastermind 04-07-2006 09:16 PM

I'm too much of a noob to remember that. ^^


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