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contego 03-20-2006 07:34 PM

What do you think..
 
My graalian family and I are building a home for us to upload on NPulse. I've made the exterior of it. I'd like to hear your opinions... It's a pyrimad but not with the typical tiles.. much more original... :whatever:

http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?i...urhome34bs.png

Crono 03-20-2006 07:38 PM

Looks original but unrealistic and kind of ugly. Look at it, it's as skinny as ****. Give the thing some fat food, make it fatter! >_<

Ducati_Link 03-20-2006 07:42 PM

It's insides tiles gone wrong outside. It's like an implosion. I agree original, but nothing flows, you can't say there is a tile error as it's lots to make a new 'idea'. Really not my style. 2/10

contego 03-20-2006 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
Looks original but unrealistic and kind of ugly. Look at it, it's as skinny as ****. Give the thing some fat food, make it fatter! >_<

hmm making it thicker.. okay let me get other responces before edits come into play..

And can someone please tell Ducati that Graal is ALL 2d with the exception of Graal 3d? He told me it was too 2D.. and when I told him that Graal is 2D he says I need to learn my graphics -_- oh brother.. and then claims I cant take contructive critism.. lol it's 2 D buddy.. 2D

excaliber7388 03-20-2006 10:14 PM

I like the idea, but its too thin, and I don't liek the towers

contego 03-20-2006 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
I like the idea, but its too thin, and I don't liek the towers


Okay so definitely increase the width of the pyramid.. and possibly remove the towers?

Thanks for the input.. ^^

Lao_Su2 03-21-2006 12:12 AM

I like the creativity, but yes make it fatter, and possibly play with the tiles that you have going around the edge. Good job!

Infernix 03-21-2006 12:48 AM

Dear god Contego, shoulda hired me for Shaded Legend when you still work there. Cause no wonder its so damn ugly XD. No offence.

I say start over with the house and just use a regular unoriginal style considering itll look better. Then you can figure a way to make it more orginal.

contego 03-21-2006 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix
Dear god Contego, shoulda hired me for Shaded Legend when you still work there. Cause no wonder its so damn ugly XD. No offence.

I say start over with the house and just use a regular unoriginal style considering itll look better. Then you can figure a way to make it more orginal.

Right no offence taken.. hah lol an insult then advice.. interesting communication skills.. thanks

contego 03-21-2006 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lao_Su2
I like the creativity, but yes make it fatter, and possibly play with the tiles that you have going around the edge. Good job!

Thanks will do... but around the edges.. my intentions are to have it uploaded on NP.. and they will place it.. I am just making the tiles for the home... and then the insides.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernix
Dear god Contego, shoulda hired me for Shaded Legend when you still work there. Cause no wonder its so damn ugly XD. No offence.

I say start over with the house and just use a regular unoriginal style considering itll look better. Then you can figure a way to make it more orginal.

Right no offence.. hah an insult then advice.. interesting communication skills.. thanks man

CidNight1142 03-21-2006 03:36 AM

Definately make it thicker in terms of the y axis on the ground. So that it makes more geometric sense. Definately original though. Also, perhaps a way to make the top of the towers look not so...huge?

Ducati_Link 03-21-2006 05:42 AM

Sorry, still isn't going on N-Pulse with that style con. It's not N-Pulse's look and both me and TWINEINZ agree that it doesn't fit. So it will have to meet with NP's terms. The same rule applys to everyone.

Lord Sephiroth 03-21-2006 07:33 AM

Man, I'm not sure if anyone agrees with me but that is the worst tileset to use if you want to use creative tiles like that.

I don't like NPulse's tileset in general, I think it's disgusting, pixelated and I feel that if I were to stare at it for a short period of time my eyes would start to bleed.

It's interesting what you tried to do but you can't do it with that EoA tileset. I'd like to see what you could come up with with a tileset that doesn't suck something awful.

contego 03-21-2006 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth
Man, I'm not sure if anyone agrees with me but that is the worst tileset to use if you want to use creative tiles like that.

I don't like NPulse's tileset in general, I think it's disgusting, pixelated and I feel that if I were to stare at it for a short period of time my eyes would start to bleed.

It's interesting what you tried to do but you can't do it with that EoA tileset. I'd like to see what you could come up with with a tileset that doesn't suck something awful.


-_-

Ducati_Link 03-21-2006 09:38 AM

Ah lord Seph? Seeing you playing N-Pulse for how long till you got fired? And you made levels, not being LAT, for the server till people didn't like your new ET house idea. :\

Ducati_Link 03-21-2006 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by contego
And can someone please tell Ducati that Graal is ALL 2d with the exception of Graal 3d? He told me it was too 2D.. and when I told him that Graal is 2D he says I need to learn my graphics -_- oh brother.. and then claims I cant take contructive critism.. lol it's 2 D buddy.. 2D


Sorry for double post. just saw this.

1. graal is 3d viewed. It's not a 3d game. But it's not flat 2d like alex kid. You need some sort of depth to the buildings instead of a flat 1 viewed image to a level.

2. You couldn't take constructive critism when I was trying to help you in the begining.

3. I am a she, not a he. Thanks.

petro1212 03-21-2006 10:36 AM

Funny, original; unlike the tons of remakes of styles done by other people posted on these forums daily. That doesn't take the fact away that it hurts my eyes but still worth a 6 (out of 10) for the effort.

Probely fixing the perspective but still using the same tile assortment will give you a "nicer" level.

contego 03-21-2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducati_Link
Sorry for double post. just saw this.

1. graal is 3d viewed. It's not a 3d game. But it's not flat 2d like alex kid. You need some sort of depth to the buildings instead of a flat 1 viewed image to a level.

2. You couldn't take constructive critism when I was trying to help you in the begining.

3. I am a she, not a he. Thanks.

To reply to "1." Regardless, "Graal is 2d": that's all I said and you told me to "learn your graphics" when I said that. (insult)

To reply to "2." You weren't giving me constructive critism at first, you insulted my work. Contructive critism is when you point something out I should fix or fix in the future. You were extremely condasending, -_- and I never once insulted you, yet when I claimed YOU did you would say, "not to be rude" or "no offence" lol ..got to love those. The point is you WERE rude and OFFENSIVE regardless if you say "not to be". People say that all the time, it's a key that they are about to be. After I got offended the worst I said was "get over yourself" about Graal being 2D and then you claim I was pushing it and you weren't going to help me. Finally, the thing about being a staff member is you don't talk to people in a rude way esspecially if they are paying customers and wasn't being rude to you; you are no better then anyone else here. :\

To reply to 3. 0_o Oops.. my mistake... so maybe wearing a girl head? Well not to be rude...but maybe the reason you were so rude is because it's your 'time'? x_x

You seem so hateful and upset...I can just visualize you holding out your hand and grabing eaching finger as you say "One.. Graal is not 2D..." blah blah "Two..You couldn't take constructive critism..." also maybe you might have a little head bobbing from side to side "Three..I'm a she not a he" and then flipping her hair and storming away after putting me on ignore. Calm down..

With that said, now to be serious, I was simply offended on how you communicated the results of my project. Communication is very important.. Take this with a grain of salt, as constructive critism, only because I see room for improvment in these areas for you. In the meantime I will scrap the project and start over.

Ducati_Link 03-21-2006 06:07 PM

Now that I am female I point my finger.. flick my hair and walk out of a room in a huff.. well.. oookay.

Anyway.. you can ask anyone from N-Pulse when they ask for a level rating I do warn them before hand that I can come across harsh, but I really do mean no offence by it.. as I train alot of people. I told you simply that your house had no depth (and I have said this to many many people) and it looks like a flat 2d image, and that it doesn't fit NP style. (oh yes, graal isn't ment to have depth as it's is a 2d image right?! wrong!) Even Heather, TWINEINZ, was nice to you about it aswell.. stright away when I said I didn't like it you were WHAT?! LOL HOW?! Everyone I showed loved it! and you wern't listening what I was trying to tell you.. except you were telling me that Stefan and Unix had told you that you had some great leveling perspective and your love by all.. or something like that.
I have never been rude to anyone about there leveling, and even if I seem harsh I never put peoples levels down. BUT if I dont like them I will tell them what I personaly think isn't right with it and suggest otherwise. (which I even did with you, I suggest castle tiles)
In the end I had enough of your jerk attitude and got narky, but never before hand. I'm sorry but I didn't start anything here.. I just tell you what I tell everyone else to the standard of the upcomming N-Pulse.

I dont wish to dress as a female, I dont want a female head. I never expected you to know before hand I was female, as people dont.. I was simply correcting you for the future.

Infernix 03-21-2006 09:54 PM

I agree that the pulse tileset is horrible but I think based on concept its pretty good. Graphics wise rofl naa.

Contego ahh yea O_o.
Ducati ummm ahhh okkk then.

Angelus send me a PM here with your AIM name or send me a message of aim one day.

Lord Sephiroth 03-21-2006 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducati_Link
Ah lord Seph? Seeing you playing N-Pulse for how long till you got fired? And you made levels, not being LAT, for the server till people didn't like your new ET house idea. :\


OH SNAP.

Okay so as Asst. ETA I made levels for an event and tried to introduce a new design to the server because frankly I think N-Pulse has a -terrible- levels standard that was undoubtably set by the trash that you produce which you seem to call "leveling".
I don't know who you sucked off to become LAT Admin on that server, but they must have been desperate.
Yeah I was fired, I won't deny that. I was fired because I warped into a cancelled event. I'm sure the fact that I stopped working for that P.O.S server about 3 months before removal had nothing to do with it.
In the entire time I was Asst. ETA there, I made a grand total of 3 levels.

OH SNAP.

It disapoints me that everyone on that server holds you in such high regard. They must not know what a real leveler is. You make me sick. Everything about you makes me sick. You're nothing. You have -zero- talent.
I was ETA on Babylon for 4 years. I really don't -give a damn- that I was removed on NPulse after a few months. Frankly that job is getting boring, and after designing 30+ events, the ideas that run through my head are getting stupider as the day goes by, because i've already done everything there is to do.
You've got nothing on me.

This is where your retarded friends start insulting me back.
I'll be sitting -crying my eyes out- as your idiocy continues to peck away at my sanity. </sarcasm>

OH SNAP.

God I hate you.

Crono 03-22-2006 12:03 AM

Damn, Seph opened a can of ownage...o_o;

Malinko 03-22-2006 06:28 AM

Whoa, Lord Sephiroth. <3!

HoudiniMan 03-22-2006 06:43 AM

Lord Sephiroth takes himself too seriously methinks.

Nitkizi 03-22-2006 08:50 AM

Well then..

Ducati_Link 03-22-2006 04:30 PM

Seph, Seph, Seph.. you have to much haterd. I quite honestly don't mind if you don't like my levels, but nor do I think you even know my levels. You talk so much hate about then.. but I dont think you could personaly name 3 levels I have done. So Id like to know how you know of my untalented leveling skills go.. But quite honestly I dont care. Don't like me, or my work, thats fine. But your so hippicritical, so angry. And how I was hired? I was hired in 2001 by Archeon as he saw a player house of mine and asked me to join the LAT Team. Desperate? No.. N-Pulse was still going very well.
Why am I in high reguards? It's because I actully work for the server, and not my own personaly gain.. unlike yourself. Why shouldn't people reguard me? What have I ever done aginst the server?? Nothing. You couldn't come up with anything on me as to why I am such a horrible person in your eyes.. apart from I didn't like your levels. Thats sad.
Why people dont like me... well same reason time again and again.. I am truthfull when it comes to levels.. Most of your friends probably can't put up with your crying BS and say your work is great (yeah, that will shut him up) when it's not. Why should I tell you it's any good if it's not? People ask my opinion and I state it.. yet Ialways state how it could be fixed. Your just to big headed to listen to anyone else but yourself. Not that I am saying I always know whats best, but funny enough, I have seemly done well in the past.

As for my friends bashing you? I doubt it.. unless they read this. But I dont really carea about fighting with you Seph.. I have nothing to win nor lose.

So basicly, go have a cry elsewhere.

1 other thing..
N-Pulse levels are trash that are made by me? Well actully currently there is no current OW level on there I have made. It has been from players such as zerxus, Acid, Inferno, Moonie, Zido and a few more. The new OW on another hand is made by me and TWINEINZ.. but you havn't seen any of that yet... and you don't have a clue what insides on NP are mine. So this 'trash' I have made.. I really havn't made at all. lol.

Infernix 03-23-2006 01:02 AM

Contego I do see some wierd formations inside of my head of what you were trying to make. Just cant make it with those tiles lol.

O and Ducati, If your saying someone else is big headed maybe you should check yourself..........before you wreck yourself lol. <- Doubt you know anything bout that lol.

Darlene159 03-23-2006 01:54 AM

Wow...let's keep the critisism on a constructive note, shall we?

protagonist 03-23-2006 05:09 AM

The level is good.

10/10

Googi 03-23-2006 05:39 AM

I think I've seen this somewhere before.

CidNight1142 03-23-2006 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Really on a kick with those posters, eh?

Ducati_Link 03-23-2006 07:24 AM

That would be a pretty cool building to do. If done right.

and Inferno.. yeah im 'big headed' on N-Pulse. But I still listen and learn ;)

contego 03-24-2006 11:32 AM

I kinda just wanted to know what people thought of the level.. lol And Duc you kinda got a little off topic with Lord Seph.. I certainly don't think it's appropriate to annouce if someone was fired or quit. I NEVER did in my previous titles. I would say, "don't worry about it". I think only staff really should be the ones you tell, which in reality they don't have to know either... -_-

But to another point...out of curiousity, if you could enlighten me Ducati, if you only made 1 level which got you hired and not ONE is on N Pulse to get 'player reactions' then how is it you are so confident that you OW will be right? And do you really have the skills needed to make or judge levels?

Finally, I think I'm moving my business to Maloria now : ) and swing by NP on occassion rather then NP being the place I always was. Good luck keeping that playercount up!

Ducati_Link 03-24-2006 05:00 PM

Hiring and Firing of people isn't anything to hide and I stated it because he was a played of N-Pulse till then.

Anyhow, for you 'enlightenment' I got hired on my player house which was 2 outside and 6 inside levels. Anyhow, I havn't dont a OW (outside) for N-Pulse for quite some time because I had worked on EOA, which was ment to be N-Pulse, then I worked on Zhalla which was also ment to be N-Pulse.. neither of these project made it to the server due to managers changed and stoping all development.
How am I so confident? Lots of people have seen my levels and have highly rated them. I have posted levels here before, quite a few years ago.. but still they did well. I was also hire, and worked for 2k1.

sorry you havn't seen my level Contego, but thats not much I can help.. and if that makes me a none talented sucky lat.. well then so be it.

But this, even this has gone to far off topic.

But to the level, that version is better than the one you sent me first on N-Pulse. But still not my style.

Blitz_Hunter 03-24-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducati_Link
But to the level, that version is better than the one you sent me first on N-Pulse. But still not my style.

So the level has to fit your 'style' to get on N-Pulse?

Ducati_Link 03-24-2006 06:01 PM

No, it has to fit N-Pulses style.

I gave my general opinion on the level, and it's not my style.

Lord Sephiroth 03-25-2006 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Blitz_Hunter
So the level has to fit your 'style' to get on N-Pulse?

Yes.

Infernix 03-25-2006 12:54 AM

If you design npulse, npulse's style is yours thus people have to fit your style. Though Im not gonna make a big arguement about it since its such a simple thought.

Fight if you must :redface:

Ducati_Link 03-25-2006 09:39 AM

Np. N-Pulse has always had it's style.. and playing / working on N-Pulse I have probably adapted to it's style yes. But not everything on NP I like.
I know you like to think of me being that arrogent.. but I have views and guild lines.. wether people like it or not.

GoZelda 03-25-2006 07:40 PM

Get rid of the towers.


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