Very important...what must it take?!
 

Ok people for all that dont know me Im Brad from Elven Lands and Graal 2001 for the last ehh maybe 2 months I have been trying to make "Outlaws" a kingdom. Outlaws all started back around 7 months ago right when Elven Lands came out...we were a rebellion against the royal EoG our enemies from EL..the former Leader Otaku Odin disappeared and was never seen on Elven Lands again so I took it over and made it come back...then After Kami and Genmo and all the "REAL" owners left I moved to graal 2001 and still had a job on EL...then I would switch back and forth from each server but mostly I was still a major player on Elven Lands...then mysteriously HEYhost was gone for a month and James became owner and Soveryn became co owner as James got sick of being Owner Sovy became owner and I became Co-Owner so i was on ALOT then good ol' HEYhost came back and was Owner once again...He demoted me to uhmmm Events Admin and took away my level 3 RC and FTP access so i left and would only keep my rc on (level 1 on) and pm people and talk to them(because there was NO events possible on EL) so I was on Graal 2001 for a long time when I thought hmm I think I got an idea when I remembered about my long time favorite guild Outlaws...So I started telling people about how great it would be if the rebel Outlaw group became a kingdom and would stop all the royalty...and I made MANY supporters...then i decided to make it a guild to just gather a few members so i could start talking to people more about it...the guild idea failed after the guild tags were down for a lil while I gave up on that idea but brought i back recently...so I still would like to try to get Outlaws to be a Kingdom yet I dont know what to do IVE TALKED TO Stefan who sed will see and Bear who said my idea was good but told me to talk to Stefan....

In Conclusion if Stefan or Bear or anyone else important reads this please tell me if you can help

thanks alot

Re: Very important...what must it take?!
 

NO MORE KINGDOMS!

Bah
 

I wouldnt even consider this a kingdom because we dont have a king or whatever...we are a bunch of rebels...

Re: Bah
 

We already have a RP grounp like that, THT's Kakaorze Outlaws or something like that. It's the same thing, we don't need two of them.

uhm no
 

THATS KAROZE thing TOOK MY IDEA I STARTED RECRUITING AND EVERYTHIGN MASSING OUT WHAT I WAS DOING THEN MAYBE HMM 5 DAYS LATER THEY COME OUT AND HAVE EVERYTHING I STARTED

Re: uhm no
 

As much as I don't really like THT...I don't think he would have stolen the idea.

SSMUTZ I SWEAR ON IT
 

I swear on it SSMutz ive known you for a while when I first became a FAQ a while ago...I swear on ti I started Outlaws LONG before they came up with their idea:mad:

Re: SSMUTZ I SWEAR ON IT
 

Yes, I remember Outlaw being guild, with only about 3 members ever online at once, but I don't recall them ever RPing. It just seemed like another PK guild, that had gotten it's name from "Outlaw Star" when it started playing on Toonami.

I never could...
 

I never could actually get alot of members because of players not wanting to be in guilds because of kingdoms...and no LOL we rp'd all the time you shoudl heard our guild messages...

Re: I never could...
 

All I remember was being attacked by a few members everyonce and a while, and then for a while I never saw anyon using the Outlaw tag.
Anyway, if you really believe THT stole your idea, then talk abou it with Stefan and THT. I really don't wat to defend THT's kingdom, but at the same time I don't really want a another to be made. So I'm not gonna argue,

You Dont Understand...
 

Ive been trying to talk to Stefan...he doesnt answer me...I posted this here so he would answer...but I know I had this idea first and the members that attacked you were removed from the "kingdom" AKA guild because of their lack of being able to RP

People...
 

Bah people post what you think about all of this

Alright look Brad, no offense. I don't give a flying f*** if your kingdom gives out prsents during Christmas time or if they stop royalty, we DON'T need any more Kingdoms that stop other Kingdoms and we DON'T need any other RP guilds. In case you were listening to any sort of conversation today and we have already discusses the best way to get rid of all these Kingdoms is if someone just deleted them. We don't need this RP style take-down, that won't exactly cut it

Brad.. take a look at the long and lengthy list we have of Kingdoms we have... well over fifteen! I mean the way 2K1 is going with this massive kingdom trash, it's going to be worse then Graal 3000!!!

....
 

ok i get it then if u delete them all just have unofficial kingdoms...people wear fake tags....just so anyone could join any kingdom they want....I understand you want NO MORE kingdoms but still...

BUT AGH
 

OK I GET IT WE GOT ALOT OF KINGDOMS

SO ERASE THE CRAPPY ONES

GEEZ TAKE AWAY THE SAME OLD KINGDOMS THAT ARE ALIKE THE OTHERS THIS KINGDOM IS DIFFERENT THATS THE POINT

I don't play Graal 2001 hadly anymore is because it's all about the Kingdoms now. I enjoy some sort or kingdom wars or games but when I first started playing back in March it was all about the events and the fun games. Now it's turned into a power-hungry server

Yeah. Graal is a game about gaining power. You have to reach admin status to beat it :)

thats not at all what Im saying
 

Power has nothing to do with this, Its just I have a good idea and it gets stolen and people criticize it and EVERYTHING:mad:

You are from EL
YOU ARE STUPI DHSTUP UP

How about support my Kingdom? It's devoted to destroying all royalty and breaking a kingdom's spirits because we PK them once a day.
It doesn't sound appealing...

uhm no
 

I am from the GOOD EL when it was good and the owner was KaMI so I wont shutup This is what peopel complain about in these forums people who come into threads and badmouth a person for NO REASON

GEEZ
 

Now you aftershhock? thats not the whole point KINGDOMS DONT PK they RP

Alright, I'll tell you what, do two things for me:
1) If you can bring down all the other small kingdoms and reduce the number to.. let's say 6 (I'll be generous) through haggling with Stefan or someone else then I will support you
2) If you can show me how one kingdom uses "Rp'ing" to literally destroy a kingdom by PK'ing them then I will support you

fine BUT
 

1) making their be only 6 kingdoms is nearly impossible but I will do my best to talk to Stefan and everyone

2) a kingdom can take downa nother kingdom by posting rules and regulations and everything, example is post rules for a guild war stating maybe Dustari VS PC rules state if u die u are dead you cannot come back to the battle, winner of this war will be the rulers the losing kingdom must leave graal. It sounds farfetch'd but i dont know

(James205)

I think more kingdoms are ruining newmain BUT! You guys ***** about how staff don't disserve spots and crap. If you think about it they were in line for the jobs before you which makes them first, so lets see the first kingdoms can be the only kingdoms, I say whoever loses those competitions like everytime should be deleted or whatever. It's kind of no fair just because you were first you always get to have the best stuff.

EL was NEVER good.

this isnt about EL
 

and yea immatat0r that was a good idea someone comes up with an idea early so they get special treatment I dont feel thats fair

We dont even need PRIVELAGES
 

geez If Outlaws became a Kingdom !!IFFF!! they wouldnt even need like provelages to be able to participate in kingdom games...just to be able to add members and attack other kingdoms in rp events would be the fun of it

TrueHeaT:
Uhh... I've never heard of any other Outlaws... I got the idea for Karakaze Troupe from Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Sisok had an idea just like it so we put it together and I thought of Karakaze and he thought of Troupe so there it was... We already have tons of members and a hideout, we just need a tag creator. It also saddens me that someone from Elven Lands would be on the playerworld management team because someone from Elven Lands can't know anything about Playerworld management.

AGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
 

I CANT STAND IT WHY DO PEOPEL CRITICIZE ME FOR PLAYING ON ELVEN LANDS A LOONNNGGG TIME AGO?!

UGGH

im not saying u stole my idea I just ahd it for 2 months ANd then u came around...

A tourney style elimination of Kingdoms might work when getting rid of the smaller and lesser heard of ones, but I mean geez... so much riding on just a tourney for big kigdoms like Dustari? It definately is farfetched... I sure wouldn't like to participate in those

TrueHeaT:
Hmm. In a tourney to judge the fate of kingdoms I'm pretty certain that the Karakaze troupe would stand on the sidelines shooting arrows at the competitors and dropping apples all over the place.

this Karoze thingy
 

Considering we both have the SAME idea I gues ssince your more popular I should just drop my idea......or if u wanted we could combine and just be Karoze Troupe and no Outlaws...

TrueHeaT:
Sorry you cannot join.

::::sigh:::::
 

I didint even really want to join I had my idea first...ur more popular u take it over...I dont consider that fair

Now THAT was a knife i the heart of dignity *falls down dead*
No, it's not that your not popular Brad, I'm sure many people know you, but the idea has been discussed over and over and over again.. no one wants any kingdom no matter what it does how little they want. Not even RP guilds until the kingdoms are limited, until they are soon turned into Kingdoms

no thats not it
 

someone popular thats = them being able to tell peopel many things I had an awesome idea A LONG time ago and now it goes down the drain

yea u were rite
 

Ur rite that was like a knife into what was left of my dignity

i figured that...

well now I guess i hata give up LIKE ALWAYS