Plan to minimize kingdom #'s
 

Alright, I know we have had quite a bit of discussion on this but I need to get this off my chest so bare with me...

We have already established the fact that there are too many kingdoms. Obviously a kingdom should be something well planned and thought of over a long period of time, not just an overnight thing. Obviously we have some very fine and established Kingdoms. These are:
-Dustari
-Zormites
-Pirate Crew
-Celts
-Kalaron
-Samurai
However, we have about 5 times more kingdoms that are unorganized and are more of a "mentality thing" rather than good kingdoms like these. No doubt some of the smaller ones have potential but that won't help our growth problem. We can either solve this in two ways

1. Unite the other "Kingdoms" into a bigger one that stands a chance against the others
2. Disband the other kingdoms using a tourney-style elimination

Unfortunately, we all brought this onto ourselves and that is the only way it can be done.

Now, in order to avoid the constant spawning of new kingdoms we have to make these changes

1. Give guilds more freedom in terms of making establishments on the 2K1 server. This isn't to say they make a crappy tree-house meting place with beds and tables and chairs like you see on some free servers, they have to be good and well done levels.
2. Have guilds play a more active part of 2K1 gaming.
3. Give guilds a chance to participate as a team in events.

Now you may think that RP guilds have been given too much power on 2K1, well that's not exactly true. Although this is arguable think about it. Kingdoms can directly participate in kingdom wars throughout the server, they are more popular on 2K1 than guilds and they have those kingdom trophies. Many kingdoms are also more respected than guilds and have a better meeting place.
Guilds obviously have the advantage of mobility throughout the servers, they also are not as commited as Kingdoms and they don't have to participate in events if they don't want to.

Two different types of groups for two different types of people...
Now if this idea works then there are only 6 or 7 kingdoms (still too many but we brought this onto ourselves) and now RP guilds can ease the pressure of the constant demand for kingdoms. Of course we have to limit the amount of RP guilds but if we had suppose... 6 kingdoms and 6 RP guilds that would make more sense.
Now I just hope the poll works, this is my first time making one :p

No.
KINGDOMS are RP guilds. You never saw the creation of them and what they originally meant. They were meant for RPing, but everyone just turned them into some sick non-roleplaying joke. Now everyone wants a kingdom and it's become a complete disaster.

So basically you want us to stip down Kingdoms until we have only a few left so that we can make room for new Kingdoms (rp guilds give me a break... eventually they will want their own castle, etc, it won't solve anything we will only be going in circles)

Here is what we should do...

sure, remove some of the lesser kingdoms, we need to stick with basics, we can build from there.

The thing about Kingdoms is the variety. We have Zormites, which build their castles and farm underwater, they are a fish people similar to the Romans in society makeup.

Dustari, we make our home in the desert using advanced irrigation to our advantage, think of us as a middle ages style society only in a desert landscape, with some egyptian influence.

Samurai, think Feudal Japan, martial arts, etc. Farmers and fisherman.

Pirate Crew, your standard Pirate ship, plundering sea thieves. Their Captain is a ghost which adds a neat twist.

Celt, think druids and people of the land in a harsh ice terrain. They also appear to have some Norse influences.

Kalaron, well... if it sticks around, it's a woodland society, magical elves, etc. Their castle is located within a huge towering tree.

We have a pretty nice variety right there alone. Maybe one or two could go but for something to replace it, it would need to be superior idea in every aspect.

I don't care about newcomers trying to struggle making their own guild or whatever. Who cares! This is about quality control, someone can't just come along and start up their own thing. Well they can, but why should we give them an advantage if it's just the same old cliche guild stereotypes recycling over and over. We should strive for something more than that :(

Basically what you call RP Guild... I think what you mean is what we at the RPC like to call mini-kingdoms (for lack of a better term, or maybe just too lazy to think up a better one)

Pirate Crew is a mini-kingdom. They don't have much, they just have their little ship, that is all they want and that is all they need. They don't have huge elaborate castles or towns like some of the other Kingdoms may eventually have.

Anyway a real solution has yet to really present itself... basically I think we just need to cut off the creation of new Kingdoms for now until we can sort things out. Because new Kingdoms keep being added faster than we can adapt, plus there are so many the players are so spread out that it's hard for each Kingdom to get more than a handful of members online at a time (which makes it hard to do events, etc)

Phew okay there... hehe

we should keep the origional kingdoms, and get rid of kalaron celts are bad as well get rid of them

Personally I like Celts, but I know many people don't like them much. But see, the problem is, they already have a castle online. It is kind of hard to get rid of a Kingdom if they already have a castle and stuff I bet.

yer i agree, but if every one who wants to be a king will start there own kingdom and it will get all crappy with no space left

ok the kingdoms that should be kept are
pirate crew
samurai
dustari
zormite
celt
the rest should go

my idea to get rid of kingdoms - use dy-no-mite

well i actually think Kalaron is a good idea, but they should be elves(or elfs whatever)
and dwarfs etc...
i agree with what most people are syaing, there are becoming too many kingdoms, Zormite,Dustari,Pirate Crew,Celts,Kalaron, and Samurai is all we need! please stop acceoting, its already hard enough finind gmembers that know how to RP, because a lot of them left Zormite for Dustari etc.

Emperor Zarnage (Zormite)

and put kalorn in a forest? make em little tree houses like kokiri forest in zelda

lol yea, and there should be an npc that makes em walk with a gani, everything is normal accept they have a little fairy following them =P

that would actually be pretty kewl

CULT

LOL

THRILL KILL CULT YO! REPRESENT

WE DON'T KILL PEOPLE WE DO SOMETHING ELSE WE haVE A MASTER PLAN TOO

Why don't we just leave things the way they are? I like graal now :(

LOL, I knew Fai was gonna do that

we only need one kingdom

IPH - ice pick haters = every on on graal
IPL - ice pick lovers = ice pick and his mom

k, c ya 4 a while im going to play soccer

You people just wait soon enough we will not be LAUGHED at

AND SUPPORT: The Cult

the cult owns, now who is the cult going to scariface?

ahhh scariface

No
Karakaze Troupe is a great kingdom that actually roleplays well. Almost all of the kingdoms I see, and that youve mentioned have people who are wearing there tags and not RPing, worse yet mindlessly PKing people. Its wrong, and if you want to propose an Idea back it up with some facts. Kingdoms that should be kept are kingdoms that actually RP. Idiot.

People choose not to think about what you say when you include calling them an idiot.

In my opinion, the original four kingdoms should be the only kingdoms. I always found medieval, as per Asuka's original kingdom, very bland, but it was what it was. Now Zulithe wants to make it a desert kingdom. I don't ask questions, I'm not a Dustari.

So, Samurai, Pirate Crew, Dustari, Zormite. Earth, Wind, Fire, Water. Dandy.

how about a personal kingdom for everybody?!?!

TrueHeaT:Karakaze Troupe si elementless! bawahahae

Our element is hobo.

I like the knigdoms as they are, no new kingdoms should be allowed, that way we can build and improve upon the kingdoms we have currently. But, I think a cult would be intresting to see also. So I don't want any more kingdoms, and I want everyone to support Fai's cult! lol

Guilds like Baddies should go away.

Twiztid Juggalo and other stupid pkers running around with no motive.

people just think....
 

you all say NO MORE KINGDOMS BLAH BLAH BLAH but when you really think about it PC is the only kingdom that isnt alike all the others Dustari, Celt, and Samurai all run through the basic roots of the King rules all while Zormites have a lil change where they have senators and such....But we have no rebellion against any Royalty like they really would back when kingdoms were Kingdoms...Which is why For the last ehh maybe 2 months Ive been trying to get Outlaws to be a Kingdom...for all that dont know what outlaws is..its a rebellion...they are set upon freeing the world from rulership of a king...they dont have a king or queen or princes or anything their ranks are divided by Leader,Co-Leader,Soldiers, etc. They are the non classy non roaylty people that have been shut put from being in royal kingdoms such as Dustari...While Ive been trying to get this to be a Kingdom for soo long All I have got from Stefan is will see and Mr. Bear sed it was a great idea but I had to talk to Stefan...In conclusiong im saying more kingdoms would flood us with many things but to add a few different things wouldbt be bad...:)

Re: people just think....
 

hey guy samurai dosent have a 'king'

Once Stefan makes a RP server for us or a island somewhere on graal2001 I believe RPing would start to really come out and if we were able to do things to the island durring RPs (spells/battles/etc) without having to go into graal level editor and etc to make the changes would be a great addon =)

hmm yea
 

yea making an island or somewhere to RP would be very nice...but still we need a rebellion which I will do anything to create

I for one like Pirate Crew. Keep at 'em, PC!

And, although I haven't said it in months, I still want personal spells. Dante-magic.gani is going to waste.

yea....
 

I guess you could consider PC a good kingdom IF they learned to RP a lil more...

And if you say YOUR PIRATES PK ME WITH TAGS ON
well we are rather suppose to RP like that (plundering)

You must relieze that RPing as a pirate is a little bit harder than a normal RPer
But still I try to have my pirates RP but without a good RP enviroment its rather hard to RP anyways

Samurais have an Emperor....now all we need is a Shogun...lol

nah i dont say dat
 

i never sed that I just feel when they are IC they should talk like a pirate ATLEAST and if some one maybe out of Dustari sez ah u scoundrel or some sort of talk they say they should be like ArG....ye are a wretchid squid and they could rp battle...but thats just my opinion

Yah I be the only one really talk like a pirate (due to my piratey side) I did make up guildlines for Pirates which includes using piratey speaking

just kill them all off.

Which is why...
 

The reason i quit PC was because of the lack of RP'ing among the members...