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Graal 4 Linux bugs
Graal 4 for Linux
You can download Graal 4 for Linux here. The download is approximately 4mb and requires root access (or at least the root password) to install correctly. This thread was last updated on the 27th January 2006. Unresolved Playerlist (F7)
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I'm getting the same swimming bug in the windows version.
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The IRC Bots are showing up on my playerlist.
The game lags tremendously. ( I just installed Gentoo, and I haven't configured the Graphics card fully yet, so I bypassed it. Does it need Direct Rendering? 3D Acceleration? ) |
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Run glxinfo, you should get something like "Direct rendering: yes". If not, install some good drivers. |
Runs pretty fast here, even faster than on Windows, but that's probably because my Linux doesn't have as much stuff running as Windows :)
Beside that, I mostly get the same errors, Graal3D segfaulted first, but I guess that's fixed now. The players from old server seem to either disappear after some time or after the playerlist has been reopened, not sure. |
Graal4 requires a third party package that is broken and fails, after rudely installing itself in a hidden place on my system, claiming that my libc is not up to date. I know it is up to date, so I assume the installer is broken.
NPC Code:# Your copy of glibc, a core system library, is too old for this package. The installer also needs to stop treating me like a newbie. What happened to providing tarballs for packages? |
A few hours ago I have updated the linux version, not increased the version number though since it is not announced yet anyway.
When upgrading/reinstalling it doesn't fail anymore if you have a graal4setup in the current folder, it also doesn't show a segmention fault then. It correctly installs an icon into the gnome/kde menus now, under Games. It also opens a terminal in the background now so that you see the F2 output there. A F2 in-game-window will be added later. About libc: normally distributions come with compatibility libraries, that means libc versions 2.0, 2.2, 2.3 etc. You eventually have a minimum distribution that only installs the necessary stuff to run the programs of the distribution, or you have compiled everything yourself. Normally you can install compatibility libraries easily with the Install-CD or the packager system. Graal is linked agaisnt an older libc so that it's also working on older Linux versions, >=2002. The playerlist is scripted and contains all the features of the external Windows version, but it seems there are some problems when switching servers, will fix that soon. |
All I had to do was opengl-update xorg-x11 ^_^ Now Direct rendering works, and it shows a LOT! In fact, Linux G4 is faster then Windows G4!
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I have made some changes to the playerlist script, including clearing the playerlist when switching servers, and adding an icon to the window to show when you have PMs.
If you have any problems or find any bugs with the playerlist while using v4-linux, please post them here. |
Multiple Graal Clients running in the same time
-> Lags the computer enormously. |
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I don't have a Tomcat server, so bleh to that. |
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ATI drivers, yes. I think the problem is with OpenGL then with my gaphics card. Anyways, I won't be using two Graals at once; I just found that out because I wanted to check the terminal for a second, and shut it back down.
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The help display is fixed now. Need to check the problem of starting the setup when the game is started via the programs menu, also it needs to try to start the setup no matter if its already downloaded or not.
The linux version says is checking now if direct rendering is enabled and displays it on the terminal, may be it should also display a message box if its not enabled. |
I can't actually install Version 4 yet because of this
autopackage-frontend-gtk: error while loading shared libraries: libglade-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory and then it closes after trying to launch the installer file **Version 2 loaded up after I downloaded a ton of DLL's for my WINE in Linux by the way, really slow, and the terrain doesnt display, but thats off topic.. *looks around* PENGUI POWER!! *wonders* hmm maybe I need to install directx.. for wine.... |
64 bit distribution? You need to install the 32bit versions of those, Graal and the autopackage library are 32bit
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I got the 32 bit compatibility arch software too.
If you switch to a different console using hte ctrl alt F2, you can kill your X server using X -noreset -terminate and then install your drivers for your video card, thats what I went and did. Oddly, it was easy enough to restart, just kill the process for X and it reboots it automatically on my computer. Though I got a feeling that wasn't right. I looked into it, and the Autopackage is the entire problem for anyone using a Linux in 64bit architecture. Atleast, for those using the Linux that can put to use RPM/RPMBUILD. Autopackage needs to be in 64 bit, or as is on the system its being installed on. Personally, I wouldnt even mind the old version 3. **For 64 bit systems (or you go back to fighting dependancies) Suppose you could let the linux clients do a ./configure and make , make install like alot of other programs. RC for Linux doesnt like to stay running, infact.. [dayaa@compy rc]$ ./rc & [1] 9833 [dayaa@compy rc]$ ./rc: symbol lookup error: ./rc: undefined symbol: gtk_tree_view_set_fixed_height_mode that occured shortly after the login screen went away, about 10 mili seconds.. later... I would think it would be easier to simply port it over to a 64 bit version or getting some compatiblity thing. |
The 64 bit thing seems to be a common problem for autopackage which only supports 32 bit environment, and if you don't have setup the right links it will not install. May be can also upload a tgz for experienced users?
For the Gtk error: It is using a few Gtk 2.6 and 2.8 features, which are already existing for quite a long time. It might be some work to install those, but it's better to enable the new stuff like syntax highlighting instead of limiting all the other people. We cannot release the source code, sorry. |
Yes I figured as much for source code. The hard part is getting Graal to run on so many different computers when they all have different configurations. Have to think about compatibility.
Anyways, found a few bugs or annoying things on Graal V4 (Linux) **Apparently there is a font "size" or atleast a height variable that somewhat helps. But there is not a way to choose a font type that is easier to read for some people. When running in a screen size larger then that of the level. the parts where the levels are not would hold the Kingdoms messages from the bottom right corner of the screen and make a huge mess that prevents you from reading certain messages at times. **not sure if it was because there wasnt a level there or what, hard to make this one out. F2 Window cannot be resized Playerlist doesnt show account names when cursor hovers over the name like the other V4 does. Playerlist will not resize,. Description of certain(ALL??) items likes to be several spaces away from right justification mark (line usually denoting the value in plat,gold,silver coins). |
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And how about the GTK2-2.8 junk. *grumbles some* Guess I get to keep trying...
I found I have 2.4, and I can't use the linux RC because it crashes when 80% of it goes white and locks up. It's only RC, what could you possibly need to do to make it real fancy and require this new software?!? **What about shortcut keys like the other graal clients had. like the alt S command to send the pm, or the alt R to reply?? |
RC: e.g. syntax highlighting when editing scripts
About PM shortcuts: will try to add that |
It seems the original post about the ability to select fonts isn't quite right, I've changed mine by editing the config file that usually goes in /home/username/.graal/v4/...
Oh, but yes, the bug I wish to report. And this one is frustrating. This only seems to happen with the linux version for me, but it could be all LCD's, because I only use linux, so I don't know about Windows. In any case, when you're walking around main, or any island with trees, the shadows of the trees flicker viciously when you move. And this isn't my hardware, I can more than support graal I'm running 256MB Nvidia GeForce w/ the latest binary-only drivers installed, on a 19" LCD monitor. (Acer) That is literally seizure inducing, wondering if there's anything that can be done? Thanks |
Sorry to add this after the fact
Ubuntu Breezy Badger 5.10 AMD Processor Athlon, K7 Kernekl 2.6.12-10-k7 No terminal error messages Nvidia-Glx Drivers installed from Synaptic 640MB SDRam 256 MB GeForce Nvidia 5700LE Acer AL1916 19" LCD display. Can't post screenshots because it only happens in motion, recreate the event by using an LCD monitor and walking near trees. Sorry to put this in a separate post. |
An LCD screen shouldn't cause this alone. Sure your drivers are up-to-date?
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It happens on LCD screens yes, it's the fake transparency with one black pixel, one transparent pixel, one black etc. Will try to add an option to automatically convert that to half-transparency
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Oh ok, just glad to know it's not some botched setting in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf x-x :)
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What distribution are you running, Dayaa (sorry if you already said this somewhere) |
I run a Fedora Core 4.
Sorry if this isnt the best Linux, but its what I got, and I like it. Its easy for me to use and I can understand it. The only problem is these rediculous requirements that Graal has. Do you not know what Linux can do?! |
Hmmm Someone should finally update the first post, 2/3 of those things are long time fixed. Also I have seen that the installer doesn't include the levels for the offline mode, will add them as soon as possible.
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Dayaa; Oh, okay. Working with Fedora, someone should compile, on Graal's part, a .rpm file that downloads the reqs from a repository, presumably hosted by graal, and then installs them, and then installs graal. Not unlike a dpkg or apt-get style installation system from Debian. Additionally, the graal v4 linux installer could be made to fetch and autoconf the reqs through RPM or DEB depending on your distro.
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Well the Autopackage tool is normally doing exactly that. Graal doesn't need anything else than SDL and a half-way recent libc.
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Stefan, can you get a simple version of RC that doesnt use GTK like Graal V4...
GTK is just dumb at times, not to mention the GLIBC being huge and taking hours to install. If you think about it, RC isnt displaying anything that moves other then text. Why would you need special features for RC, like lighting effects?? It shouldnt need advanced rendering software that most people that are new to linux can use. |
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... nachdem ich nen Symlink von /lib nach /lib32 anlege, hat auch schon dieses autopackage-Dings kapiert, dass ich ne libc habe...
"Arial font not found - Graal cannot display text!" Ausserdem hoert Graal ab und zu auf, sich neuzuzeichnen, nachdem ich auf den lustigen Knopf auf der Tuer oder den Knopf rechts unten geklickt habe und "Graal has been activated!" in stdout steht. |
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No accelerated OpenGL?
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