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coreys 10-02-2005 07:22 AM

Aeon Announcement!: Nsc
 
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Some of you may or may not have heard of a new upcoming world on Aeon called NSC (Nerf Space Station). Most of you most likely know nothing other than it's name, or even nothing. But here today I am going to disclose information which has been told to no one put trusted Aeon Staff and a select few others.

First, a sypnosis of what NSC is to be:
NSC is a hyper-futuristic space station set hundreds of years from now. Technology is at what seems to be it's peak and people fight their battles in robot arena's. On NSC you will find shops to buy every single part to maximize customization so chances are you wont be up against a mech like yours in a robot arena. Of course robots are not all of NSC's concern. There will be many quests outside of your robot, and you can spend your time exploring the 7 decks or NSC. Even going out into space in a space suit. On NSC are portals to different points in time and space, the other worlds of Aeon. NSC is essentially the heart of Aeon, and its starting point. Once the great endeavor of NSC is finished we wholeheartedly hope that you will enjoy it.

We plan to work all this week to hopefully get a public demo of one of the decks by the end of this week. I make no guartee's tho.

One proublem though...
We are short of staff working on NSC. We have 5 people working on it:
Tyreal (Server Admin) - Lead Design
Napo (Manager) - Lead Scripting
Me, Vash-Aniki (GAT Admin) - Lead Graphics, some development work
Cloud (GAT) - Graphics
Akeron (GAT) - Graphics

NSC plans to use some of the best graphics, level design, and scripting to be seen on graal so for NSC to be done will take much time. In fact, Tyreal has been working on NSC for 2 years now! Just lately have other people been working on it. NSC is hopefully set to be finished an 4 to 6 months.

Everything in this thread is subject to change, since we are in development, names, parts of the sypnosis and other things could change. Also a more thourough and accurate explaination is to come from Tyreal.

Now, I hope you will enjoy a taste of what to expect to see on NSC(Another post folowing this will have screenshots. Also all graphics shown are prone to improvement/changing in the final product.):

coreys 10-02-2005 07:24 AM

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here are some screenshots:
(Also on a side note, the "NSC TEAM" you see in the graphics I've posted are a precaution, Atrius has tried to steal our idea already)

goalieboy_01 10-02-2005 07:41 AM

I think this planet should use NERF guns to go with the name.

zim5354 10-02-2005 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys
here are some screenshots:
(Also on a side note, the "NSC TEAM" you see in the graphics I've posted are a precaution, Atrius has tried to steal our idea already)

1) You dont know what you are talking about do you? Before you start sprouting more lies you should note Atrius is down becuse Madj had some IRL issues. (Not being worked on currently)

2) After the servers worth of GFX you stole from Atrius, Era, and Graal X they all should have the right to use your retarded idea... (yes editing is still stolen)

3) Atrius did not have anymore worlds in there server besides there modern one...So care to say how your idea was stolen, or "almost" stolen?

4) Pick a idea and stick with it! What ever happind to that pirate overworld Aeon was working on?

5) It seems you just compleatly rip your "ideas" from other existing servers (besides the pirate one that never was finished...shows what you can do without a example eh?) but to stay on topic your newest "Idea" Looks alot like...hmm what was that server on the gold tab..oh wait ZONE! Your other idea is a pure Era rip...and your classic overworld (if you can call it that :-/) and your classic server was/is UN...

Mykel 10-02-2005 08:48 AM

Hey look, guns...

Crono 10-02-2005 10:50 AM

Hi Zone Wannabe.

coreys 10-02-2005 03:40 PM

Zone didn't have robots did it? This is trying to be a different concept. In zone you warped down to other planets and such and fought there, and from what I could tell never really did much of anything on the space station. The focus with NSC is, of course, the space station.

xAndrewx 10-02-2005 03:47 PM

Define robots.
And ew, I don't like it.

Crono 10-02-2005 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by coreys
Zone didn't have robots did it? This is trying to be a different concept. In zone you warped down to other planets and such and fought there, and from what I could tell never really did much of anything on the space station. The focus with NSC is, of course, the space station.

Zone did and does have robots. The space station looks too much like Zone's uh "waiting" area. But waiting I mean the lobbies and stuff.

Fogles 10-02-2005 05:08 PM

None of you have seen the robots, and the whole world itself, so don't make comments when you don't know what you are talking about.

Personally i have seen the world, it's amazing..way better than Zone..once it's done.

coreys 10-02-2005 10:36 PM

:)
Also I posted a picture of the robots. And by robots I mean like mechs (small size, not like a Gundam huge thing). You buy each little part to customize your robots. And this idea has been going for nsc for bout 2 years now, so it WAS original @_@.

And since when did Zone have robots like I'm talking about? o_O

DarkFireXZ3 10-02-2005 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
Hi Zone Wannabe.

Zone is quite Different, it doesn't really come up with the same storyline with robots and etc. it just has a space station that sends you off to some odd place to fight, I think this idea would go through very well.

PrinceDark 10-03-2005 12:03 AM

ewwww. :/
Be more original and stop being biters. Damn try hard wannabes with their copycat servers.

You all stole from each other you newbs. x_x

coreys 10-03-2005 12:10 AM

If you had read the other posts other than the first one you could see that NSC isn't any copycat idea...

sage_scooby 10-03-2005 04:32 PM

I usually bite my tongue and let things go when people start directing their negative attention at my server. Though I suppose I could come to defend it and not let it defend itself.

Firstly spend time there before you pass judgement, I dont mean log on look and go I mean play interact. You can only truly judge a server by how its run and how it works. Call it copying call it stealing call it whatever. For years and years others try to improve upon what others have created. We are not taking anyones direct ideas nor are we trying to steal others success. We are simply putting into effect things that work well and trying to improve them and the experience for players.

You talk of stealing oh yes Zelda Online was a great and original idea. First they stole it outright almost then they improved it over time. We attempted to skip the first part and go right to improvement, but as no-one person can control the actions of people miles away some things slip through. We have not taken any fresh from the mind ideas and put them in or we'd have a western server too. If you dont like it dont play it, ignore it if you must but dont come and attack it when you dont understand it.

Everyone working on Aeon is dedicated to make it a better place for people to play and dedicated to making the best of what graal has to offer. Ideas come from inspiration and people get inspired by their surroundings is it so difficlut to figure that with 100's of server they will all eventually start to look the same in some way or another. To be copies we'd need the exact of everything but we dont hold that and never will.

We are our own entity influenced by what others enjoy yes, but trying to be the others no. Its quite simple. Most people just dont take the time to see the whole picture. NSC is the core you will eventually start there then you can travel wherever you want Arkland(RP) Elan (Classic) Opan (Modern) from NSC(Future) AEON. We may in time add more. As is though we already have more than enough to do with the 4 areas. I'd like to someday maybe add in some other ages in time. The 50's maybe. Or prehistoric times. Though for now we'll stick to what we know and have yet to work on. And when we are satisfied there maybe we'll have time to add more. Who knows the possibilities are quite endless.

Crono 10-03-2005 09:15 PM

Arkland(RP) Elan (Classic) Opan (Modern) from NSC(Future) AEON.

Arkland => Let's see how this "RP" will go
Elan => Offers what every other classic server does
Opan => Rip off of Era
NSC => Inspired and possibly even almost the same thing as Zone

Thats how I see your server, sir.

sage_scooby 10-04-2005 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sage_scooby
Firstly spend time there before you pass judgement, I dont mean log on look and go I mean play interact. You can only truly judge a server by how its run and how it works.

Re-read this maybe try it out.

zim5354 10-04-2005 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sage_scooby
Zelda Online was a great and original idea. First they stole it outright almost then they improved it over time

if thats directed at me i do coment about how zelda online was ripped from zelda but look at graal now...sure its alike but your idea is a RIP i love your way of thinking its like basically saying "Hey that guy shot someone and he got off! Why do I have to go to jail?" but in your case jail is getting flamed and shooting someone is stealing ideas from 3 servers (i didnt count your classic server although it is pretty much UN but eh its classic how else can it be diffrent) Here I will even tell you the servers you ripped from!

Arkland - Hmm pick one... Valikorlia or Graal2001

Opan - Era!

NSC - Futura (drastics server i belive im not sure if its still up)

But anyway I dont understand why you even have so many sub servers...I get you want your server to be big and such but you know not everyone of those will be used its just dividing your servers playercount...(not to mention opan is in use when era is down and then not by much) But say you have 100 people playing with all the servers you have you may have 35 on opan 20 on your classic server 20 on arkland and 25 on whatever this is. (the reason I say 35 on opan is if era blows up i mean like seriously if that happins you may get that many since mephs server idea) insted of focusing on one topic meaning developing only it making it better all the while to attact that sort of person you branch out...to each there own.

sage_scooby 10-04-2005 01:29 PM

I havent directed anything at you alone. I am only trying to point out that obviously none of you that are commenting on Aeon have even looked at any of it. Aeon has been around since the beginning of PW renting so dont try to tell me that we are ripping off ideas from other rented PWs. As for classic PWs we're not ripping off from them we are merely influenced by whats going on around us and what players want.

You've never seen Arkland or NSC so I dont know where you are getting your assumptions from but they are completely wrong. As for opan it is a modern server but it doesnt make it an Era rip it just makes it based in a similar time frame, which believe it or not would include houses and commercial buildings. As for Elan the only UN part of it is that its a classic server.

I really wish you would look into the server before you attack it.

zim5354 10-04-2005 11:55 PM

i have "looked" into it a personal friend of mine is a GP there she told me about it before it went hosted...but anyway I saw your NSC pictures that you posted and they look alot like zone btw a modern server like yours is a rip from era becuse from what i have played on it you have the same systems era had its pretty much the same...execpt the guns poodie made are oversized and the gfx can be found on other servers......no comment on thieft but the thing is if you dont want us to judge nsc or whatever open them up and let us see them if there so wonderful you will get a good response and if there how we said they are you...well will get more flaming.

coreys 10-05-2005 12:15 AM

Why would we open up NSC when it's not ready?

napo_p2p 10-05-2005 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zim5354
i have "looked" into it a personal friend of mine is a GP there she told me about it before it went hosted...

Aeon hasn't had any GPs since I'd say December of 2003. And I can assure you that if you came on while the server still had GP, the modern world would not have existed.

Also, we did not release the modern world until after we were hosted. I don't know how you got to see the world before. On another note, the graphics from that version of the world were completely scraped and redone not too long ago.

Being that Era was the first mainstream modern server, it is harder to design one that is different in many apsects. The base to a good modern-type server is going to be the same, yet we can still add things that make our modern server more unique, and version 4 is also allowing us to script systems that will do just that, and make the server much less comparable to 'Era'.

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I saw your NSC pictures that you posted and they look alot like zone
Well... it's a space station. If course it's going to have similar characteristics to that of Zone's space station. Of course it's going to have futuristic tiles and have stars. Did you want us to make a space station with wood tiles that goes underwater? Back to the point, the idea behind the NSC space station is different to that behind Zone's. They are not to be the same thing.

coreys 10-05-2005 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p
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Originally Posted by zim5354
i have "looked" into it a personal friend of mine is a GP there she told me about it before it went hosted...

Aeon hasn't had any GPs since I'd say December of 2003. And I can assure you that if you came on while the server still had GP, the modern world would not have existed.

Also, we did not release the modern world until after we were hosted. I don't know how you got to see the world before. On another note, the graphics from that version of the world were completely scraped and redone not too long ago.

Being that Era was the first mainstream modern server, it is harder to design one that is different in many apsects. The base to a good modern-type server is going to be the same, yet we can still add things that make our modern server more unique, and version 4 is also allowing us to script systems that will do just that, and make the server much less comparable to 'Era'.
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I saw your NSC pictures that you posted and they look alot like zone

Well... it's a space station. If course it's going to have similar characteristics to that of Zone's space station. Of course it's going to have futuristic tiles and have stars. Did you want us to make a space station with wood tiles that goes underwater? Back to the point, the idea behind the NSC space station is different to that behind Zone's. They are not to be the same thing.

pwnd pls.

Anways, he's right. Also zim why are you complaining about Aeons Opan being an Era rip Atrius is "an Era rip' just as well?

sage_scooby 10-05-2005 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys
pwnd pls.

Anways, he's right. Also zim why are you complaining about Aeons Opan being an Era rip Atrius is "an Era rip' just as well?

Please note that his views are not everyones.

coreys 10-05-2005 02:56 PM

I've noticed...

zim5354 10-05-2005 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by coreys
pwnd pls.

Anways, he's right. Also zim why are you complaining about Aeons Opan being an Era rip Atrius is "an Era rip' just as well?

Ok so your saying he is right in your oppnion I think you should open it up so you will stop getting flamed (whitch wont happin.) You both have a futristic player setting you both have guns and from what I SEE they look the same. I beg to differ isnt Lady Death a GP? (I was talking about the pirate world not the modern world) I logged on not to long ago now that its open to the public and pretty much everyone that plays there played era when it was up becuse its pretty much the same thing..a RIP. Yes a wood space station would look so nice!!!! (sargent sarcasim off) Now look around im not the only one that bashed your server as a matter o'fact the only people who didnt bash your server are your staff members...anyway i would love to see a server where only staff members play....

OH FORGOT PWNED PLZ!!!!

Lord Sephiroth 10-05-2005 11:30 PM

*Agrees with Crono*

That chaingun does look an awful lot like Zones chaingun.

Zone has Mechs on that "Zone Wars" thing they were/are doing. Light and Dark side, also i've seen Stefan talk about robot mechs like that one in the Zone GFX forum and Saiyan was putting together prototypes.

For Emphasis
Hi Zone Wannabe :)

coreys 10-06-2005 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fogles
None of you have seen the robots, and the whole world itself, so don't make comments when you don't know what you are talking about.

Personally i have seen the world, it's amazing..way better than Zone..once it's done.

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Originally Posted by DarkFireXZ3
Zone is quite Different, it doesn't really come up with the same storyline with robots and etc. it just has a space station that sends you off to some odd place to fight, I think this idea would go through very well.

Neither of them are Aeon staff. And like I said, why would we open something that not close to done? All you can do so far really is walk around and open up the menu's...The other systems are getting done but they aren't ready yet so be patient...

coreys 10-06-2005 01:50 AM

"Tyreal Imperial: The reason why Stefan is or has been working on "mechs" is because I showed him what I was doing (big mistake)"

That's why Zeon is getting mechs. Tyreal has been working on NSC for 2 years +

Crono 10-06-2005 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by coreys
Tyreal has been working on NSC for 2 years +

My ass.

DarkShadows_Legend 10-06-2005 10:37 PM

Anybody else catch this?
NSC = Nerf Space Station

zim5354 10-07-2005 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys
"Tyreal Imperial: The reason why Stefan is or has been working on "mechs" is because I showed him what I was doing (big mistake)"

That's why Zeon is getting mechs. Tyreal has been working on NSC for 2 years +


wait wait wait! in 2 years time you have only got

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Originally Posted by coreys
Neither of them are Aeon staff. And like I said, why would we open something that not close to done? All you can do so far really is walk around and open up the menu's...The other systems are getting done but they aren't ready yet so be patient...

what the...have you been doing?

Also I dont think its a mistake he showed him its better his idea "lives" even if its in the hands of a diffrent person then it die in his or someone elses hands. But thats just my thoughts atleast.

syltburk 10-07-2005 04:50 PM

Everythings an rip-off, all ideas are "ripped" from somewhere, even thought it might not be graal, it doesn't mean that you can't have the same game style in some areas, like guns, if a modern PW have guns these days, people like crono whine about ripping off, i mean what the hell? Where did they idea come from in the first place? It doesn't make it less exciting just because they have something that zones have in their server.

Inverness 10-07-2005 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkShadows_Legend
Anybody else catch this?
NSC = Nerf Space Station

NSC would mean Nerf Space Center, but what you said is also a name for it.
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Originally Posted by zim5354
5) It seems you just compleatly rip your "ideas" from other existing servers (besides the pirate one that never was finished...shows what you can do without a example eh?) but to stay on topic your newest "Idea" Looks alot like...hmm what was that server on the gold tab..oh wait ZONE! Your other idea is a pure Era rip...and your classic overworld (if you can call it that :-/) and your classic server was/is UN...

You make it sound like there is some huge list of diffrent themed servers you could make that actually work, which isn't the case.

Elan is an original type Graal world, you can't 'rip' that.

Opan is a modern type world of course, Era had a brilliant idea in doing what they did however, we can still make Opan unique.

Arkland is an RP type world, Valikorlia first introduced true RP to Graal (I think) either way, there are all kinds of non-graal RPGs, its hardly some kind of new idea, we're just going to adapt it to Aeon.

I'm currently the project leader for Arkland, I have lots of good ideas but of course its not going to be the least bit easy implementing them (I REALLY need Clientside<->Serverside functions), but it will be unique in Graal, though unfortunately my inspiration levels are low, school sucks, i'm sleepy, and I need a dedicated Arkland staff if we're to continue from Alpha.

I don't really want Arkland to be like GK where you go around leveling up for hours, but I want the world to be able to support people who want to RP and be flexible in design so it can easily be changed. The MudLib I made does this for the items, and I plan to make a Talk-Tree system with the GUI when I get around certain complications to have more in-depth NPCs.

I'm always preaching on RC to make scripts/systems flexible and to use prefixes for filenames etc., noone listens until its too late, I know that when we start Arkland the less experienced staff will disorganize the whole thing when they start using personal prefixes and uploading duplicates, *****s sometimes.

The Serverside-Clientside barrier is a pain in the ass when using the system -.-

coreys 10-11-2005 06:30 AM

you can ask Nerf himself, Tyreal has been working on NSC for 2 years, when he was originally hired. The reason why its so early in development is that for the longest time Tyreal was the only one working on it. It was only a few months ago...maybe almost a year ago, that Magus was hired as GAT to work for NSC.

iLLusioNofGranduer 10-11-2005 07:33 AM

This message is for Aeon Staff and people who are checking this post in interest of what Aeon is, and not to the lifeless people who remonstrate servers and hope people will follow into to it, in essence, build their self esteem because they think they that people respect them in this virtual world we call Graal. Find something better to do than belittle servers with your own opinions, chances are if it's not constructive NOBODY gives a damn. Aeon is and will always be a unique server, regardless of your ignorant assumptions.

Aeon presents a lustrious world of choice to a player. The player has a WIDE variety of options to partake. They can undergo unique quests in a unique classic world, make a hobby to obtain all collectables, and/or play events. Of course, those are just a few examples. The world is interesting and fun to keep you wanting to play, much like how successful games are made that you might play on a console.
Players can also live a modern life with all the hardships that come with it in a uniquely made Modern world.
Another under construction project that was discussed is Arkland. Inverness is a brilliant designer who has much in store for this Roleplaying World. It does in fact involve roleplaying, yet I dont see just how that makes it ripped or stolen but I'll let you, the readers of my post, figure that out on your own. I suggest you play it and tell me if it's like anything you ever played. Your answer will be no, but I definitely want you to try it. You'll have an amazing time playing it.
Tyreal is another amazing designer who has pieced together a world in space. Although he likes to keep the surprise for when he's completed because he wants you all to experience the full effect of this masterpiece, I will let you in on a few secrets. Absolutely amazing, totally original, fun to explore and play, and will definitely leave you wanting more... which he will be providing because he plans to make the Space Stations and space environment continually expanding.
As you can see, we have put years of our time to developing and improving everything we have as we learn and design how to make our server more fun and entertaining. I failed to mention the rest of the dedicated, wonderful members, friends, and family that contribute to the progress of Aeon, which is why I mention them now. We, I mean the original Aeon staff, do this, not for ourselves, not for power, not for praise, not for positions in Graal, but to make something fun for EVERYONE on Graal to enjoy and love. If you like it, that's wonderful, we are happy and encourage you to be involved in our development or general society. For those of you that don't, complaining about it will clearly not gain you anything because we have nothing to lose. Go play something else, it won't bother us.. we promise.

PrinceDark 10-11-2005 08:06 AM

Isn't Tyreal that guy Koni always accuses of gfx stealing. What happened to his other project Adiard or whatever it was called? Is this Adiard renamed?

coreys 10-15-2005 06:23 PM

Different Tyreal I beleive.


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