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Raelyn 09-14-2005 11:55 PM

Armoire.
 
My latest piece, an armoire, from start to finish.

http://24.167.3.56/armoire.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/armoire3.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/armoire4.png
http://24.167.3.56/armoire5.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/armoire6.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/armoire7.png


http://24.167.3.56/ae_armoire.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/ae_armoire2.png

excaliber7388 09-15-2005 12:03 AM

:cool:
nice

OasaTor_PK 09-15-2005 03:10 AM

Nice, but do they use one solid same piece of wood to make everything? Shouldnt the doors have a different grain then the rest?

Splke 09-15-2005 03:11 AM

I liked the outline, but the colored version looks like a photoshop brush.

Still, it looks nice.

Oh, and isn't the perspective alittlebit wrong? The top seems to be made so that you can see the back of the curvey thingys, yet the rest of it (front panels) seem to be perfectly infront of you.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, idk much about much.

Zero Hour 09-15-2005 03:35 AM

Cute, should add some more detail to the doors :P
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Originally Posted by Splke
Oh, and isn't the perspective alittlebit wrong? Correct me if I'm wrong though, idk much about much.

No, the main cabinet piece is just thinner than the top & bottom.

Scott 09-15-2005 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
Cute, should add some more detail to the doors :P

No, the main cabinet piece is just thinner than the top & bottom.

He means the isometric aspect of it. :\ Which looks wrong to me.

Curt1zzle 09-15-2005 07:15 AM

Perspective is messed, can't tell why.

Nice though.

Butz 09-15-2005 07:34 AM

It looks nice, but....is it the armoire of invincibility?

Linkishback 09-15-2005 07:53 AM

It looks quite alright, but it looks like you filled up using some paint shop wood pattern..

petro1212 09-15-2005 03:33 PM

Nice!.. but you should try to use a more natural grain and you took so much trouble to do a nice outline... pixelating a wood grain would be nicer :) (but hey long live lazy ness)

Raelyn 09-15-2005 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by petro1212
Nice!.. but you should try to use a more natural grain and you took so much trouble to do a nice outline... pixelating a wood grain would be nicer :) (but hey long live lazy ness)

Thanks everybody.

No, it's not a photoshop texture, I painted the wood on there like that. I am sorry if you don't like the pattern.

Personally I like the perspective, and I think it looks cool.

Crono 09-15-2005 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
Personally I like the perspective, and I think it looks cool.

Ditto

konidias 09-15-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
Thanks everybody.

No, it's not a photoshop texture, I painted the wood on there like that. I am sorry if you don't like the pattern.

Personally I like the perspective, and I think it looks cool.

You painted it on there with a photoshop brush. Either way it's not pixelated and it looks bad. There's 132 different shades of brown there. Totally not needed. Apparently you just made the awful wood texture seperately, and then layed the outline over the texture and erased the stuff around the outline. The wood shouldn't be one solid piece. Each area of the armoire should be seperate wood, and the grain should not flow from one piece to another.

I don't like laziness in artwork. That's terrible. You're supposed to show your abilities in every piece of art you do, not show how badly you can slap together an image.

Also, no matter how much you like the perspective, it's totally not Graal perspective in any way shape or form.

Raelyn 09-15-2005 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by konidias
You painted it on there with a photoshop brush. Either way it's not pixelated and it looks bad. There's 132 different shades of brown there. Totally not needed. Apparently you just made the awful wood texture seperately, and then layed the outline over the texture and erased the stuff around the outline. The wood shouldn't be one solid piece. Each area of the armoire should be seperate wood, and the grain should not flow from one piece to another.

I don't like laziness in artwork. That's terrible. You're supposed to show your abilities in every piece of art you do, not show how badly you can slap together an image.

Also, no matter how much you like the perspective, it's totally not Graal perspective in any way shape or form.

Yes, I used the paintbrush, in photoshop, as opposed to the pencil, which I then used to shade it. For your information, I didn't make the "awful" wood texture seperately, I drew it onto the armoire around the lineart. Personally, I don't see why the grain could not be matching throughout the armoire, considering it's all the same type of wood, but to please you I changed the flow of the grain, and I reduced the wood color variations. I am not lazy, you ass, if I was lazy I wouldn't have bothered to post this here, or make it at all, considering it was originally just an example to show someone how to give depth to one of their images.

Is this better? Ass.
http://24.167.3.56/ae_armoire2.png

Edit: Rid of black outlines.
http://24.167.3.56/ae_armoire3.png

Zero Hour 09-15-2005 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
stuff

Yea, my sister made me a wooden box, and all of the grain lines up on all of the pieces, it's very nice.

XyphosMisery 09-15-2005 11:52 PM

I think using the word ass more than once in each post should be bannable.

My opinion though. So whatever.

<3

konidias 09-16-2005 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn

Actually yes, yes it is better.

Raelyn 09-17-2005 02:39 AM

Fear the awesome power of my door.

http://24.167.3.56/door1.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/door2.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/door3.png
http://24.167.3.56/door4.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/door5.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/door6.png
http://24.167.3.56/door7.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/door8.pnghttp://24.167.3.56/door9.png




http://24.167.3.56/ae_door.png

Zero Hour 09-17-2005 03:01 AM

That would be, proportionally speaking, a very thick door.

Lord Sephiroth 09-17-2005 03:35 AM

UR HELPIN' THE DEATH EATORS INTO HOGWORTS !pissed!

konidias 09-17-2005 04:44 AM

Why are you putting everything at an angle? It's like psuedo isometric or something...

davidpsy 09-17-2005 06:16 AM

Perhaps it is just what he wants to do.

Zero Hour 09-17-2005 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias
Why are you putting everything at an angle? It's like psuedo isometric or something...

Why are you being so critical of the images angle..?
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Originally Posted by davidpsy
Perhaps it is just what he wants to do.

Perhaps!

Curt1zzle 09-17-2005 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
Why are you being so critical of the images angle..?

I unfortunately agree... :O

xAndrewx 09-17-2005 10:29 AM

I like it, cool. :D

Raelyn 09-17-2005 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by konidias
Also, no matter how much you like the perspective, it's totally not Graal perspective in any way shape or form.

It's not supposed to be "graal perspective". Some of us like to be unique and work outside of the box, perhaps that's something you wouldn't understand.

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Originally Posted by konidias
Why are you putting everything at an angle? It's like psuedo isometric or something...

Why the hell does it bother you? Do you have something against a fresh perspective on graphics? At least they don't look flat like most graal graphics.

Zero Hour 09-17-2005 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
Some of us like to be unique and work outside of the box, perhaps that's something you wouldn't understand.

fresh perspective on graphics?

Come now, I hardly consider changing the angle from which you draw something a revolution, or outside of the box.

Raelyn 09-18-2005 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
Come now, I hardly consider changing the angle from which you draw something a revolution, or outside of the box.

It's not revolutionary, but it's different, uncommon, and obscure. Not being a cliche is a good thing.

konidias 09-18-2005 06:11 AM

It's only uncommon on Graal. I'm just saying... what is the point of making them? They serve no purpose other than to show off, and they aren't exactly masterpieces. They would not fit a game at all. You'd have to make characters or something that fit that perspective and that would just be hell. Unless you used 3D characters, and then I'd have to question why you dont' just make 3D furniture.

If it's just to practice drawing at an angle... I wouldn't stop practicing if I were you. Because there's a huge flaw with the armoire. The doors are exactly the same width but if it's supposed to be at that angle, the door on the left wouldn't show as much.

Oh and hey, if you can't handle criticsm, you shouldn't post your graphics. Just a heads up.

Scott 09-18-2005 06:19 AM

Isometric isn't new to Graal. Ever heard of Significance? Probably not. Old project under Angel, Deek and co. Please stop trying to impress people by your half-assed attempt.

Akoalin 09-18-2005 04:14 PM

The door looks like it gets thinner when it opens... other than that, nice job :)
I like the armoire too :D

Zero Hour 09-18-2005 06:03 PM

I would have to say I'm with Konidias, and Scott on this one. ;x

Raelyn 09-19-2005 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
I would have to say I'm with Konidias, and Scott on this one. ;x

The perspective is fine, it's not isometric, it's semi-isometric, and it's not for graal anyways.

Scott, I am not trying to impress anyone, and it's not a half-assed attempt. I am just posting my images, if you don't like it for personal preference, ok, but it's not bad pixel art, so stop jumping down my throat. Furthermore, since when are you so mad at me? I've always had good things to say about your work, even the stuff I didn't particularly like, I could still acknowledge that it was good art.

There is nothing wrong with my door or my armoire, aside from the perspective that so many people are uncomfortable with. I don't mind, it's not my intention to make art you are comfortable with, only that I am comfortable with, so stop using that as a tool for your insults.

Konidias, there is no flaw with the armoire, it's not full isometric, the front face is squared off, after which the 'camera' is meant to show distorted depth, the face is meant to be seen from straight on, while the side holds some isometric similarities. It's not full isometric, so quit trying to point out what you *think* are flaws. They are displayed properly for the perspective I am using. Just a heads up, I can handle critisism, you just don't have any idea what you are critisizing.

Edit:

Window for the house is ready.

http://24.167.3.56/ae_window.png

Zero Hour 09-19-2005 03:26 AM

Perhaps, Raelyn, that is the perspective you wished to express, but it came out *looking* wrong.

Sometimes if I don't like Scott's work I say, "Hey, that sucked, Scott!"... this doesn't mean I don't like him - it means I don't like his work.

Savvy?

davidpsy 09-19-2005 03:38 AM

I weep.. If only they could see.. this sky..

Zero Hour 09-19-2005 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by davidpsy
I weep.. If only they could see.. this sky..

Even Google doesn't know what you're talking about!

davidpsy 09-19-2005 05:20 AM

Good.

Scott 09-19-2005 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
Even Google doesn't know what you're talking about!

Probably has something to do with his stupid signature, his stupid title, or his stupid avatar, which are probably all connected in some stupid way.

Raelyn, I'm not mad at you. Also, I won't recognize as what your doing as good art, and not just because I don't like it, it's because this whole "perspective" thing isn't working. Please, please, PLEASE go study some isometric stuff before you attempt any more at this project man. ;\ On another note, if you don't like my work, say so. I'm not going to cry or get all defensive. (Like most people on this forum.)

Myomoto 09-19-2005 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
it's not my intention to make art you are comfortable with, only that I am comfortable with.

Holy crap that made me spill my coffee, man.

And your perspective is ****ing messed up...

Zero Hour 09-19-2005 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by davidpsy
Good.

You'll get this whole "socializing" thing someday, Donald ):


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