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Zurkiba 08-24-2005 11:13 PM

The players plea
 
The attempts to take Bel'la Olplyn started officially on 06-23-2005, 04:41 PM. As I write this it is 08-24-2005, 5:01 PM.

We are entering our third month - and what have we to show for it? The Bel'la Olplyn still inactive and those who wish to fix it still fighting for the good of Graal 2002.

The Bel'la Olplyn have not been able to break a 19 member mark in those two months. They've been under the 50 percentile activity rating in those two months. The leadership is hardly on. The new members are recruited to create a false illusion of activity.

The globals are against the entity of the Bel'la Olplyns. The Graal 2002 staff are against the entity of the Bel'la Olplyns. The players are against the entity known as the Bel'la Olplyns.

For TWO MONTHS the likes of Kefkin and Etien have been under watch. For TWO MONTHS they have done nothing. For TWO MONTHS they have filibustered and tried to cheat the system to gain favor. For TWO MONTHS nothing was done about it other then the entire community expressing their disdain for the kingdom.

Why is it taking two months? During these two months many players have been asking me if I can add them to Zormite - I can not because I do not have the ability to. During these two months I have fought to help Graal Kingdoms out. During these two months I have witnessed and noted every small thing that happens. During these two months I have worked hand and hand with the Bel'la Olplyn members to teach them how to roleplay and explain what their kingdom is (in a very open sense of mind).

I, along with many others, plea that the administration of Graal Kingdoms and/or Graal Online will take action as quickly as possible so that we can begin to start to make Graal 2002 fun again. We ask why it is taking so long to make a decision to remove an inactive and bad leader or not. We ask why the Bel'las have not been removed dispite their use of abusive kingdom powers.

We ask why the administration does not want to help the community fix Graal Kingdoms.

konidias 08-24-2005 11:14 PM

This is why I think npc kings would be much more effective.

Luigi1 08-24-2005 11:17 PM

"Yes, I agree" (directed toward Zurk's post, not Konidias)

Koni, don't turn this thread into an arguement about NPC kings -_-

Nappa 08-24-2005 11:27 PM

Agree with what Zurk said.

Koni, go the hell away.

OasaTor_PK 08-24-2005 11:35 PM

Why isn't the 2k2 staff doing anything about this?

Curt1zzle 08-24-2005 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by konidias
This is why I think npc kings would be much more effective.

Or better leaders should be picked. Belo Opera was a terrible addition, down with it.


"Hmmm...I don't like the president of our Nation...Ah, **** it, let's just worship and follow a golden calf."

Butz 08-25-2005 12:19 AM

And not to mention, the way things are now, you'd advance the world storyline and create better RP through an event that destroys the Drow than anything that has come from Bel'la through its continued existance.
Also, all this arguing would finally stop, ne?

Googi 08-25-2005 01:06 AM

The obsticles to removing Bel'la Olplyn are more about procedure than the staff actually obstructing their demise. Stefan needs to sign off on the removal for some reason, and he hasn't done so yet. Not because he actually opposes it, but just because he's, you know, Stefan.

Lance 08-25-2005 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias
This is why I think npc kings would be much more effective.

Because competent, active administration certainly cannot handle such problems. :)

Zurkiba 08-25-2005 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi
The obsticles to removing Bel'la Olplyn are more about procedure than the staff actually obstructing their demise. Stefan needs to sign off on the removal for some reason, and he hasn't done so yet. Not because he actually opposes it, but just because he's, you know, Stefan.

Hopefully the cry of the community will speed things up a little :/

Googi 08-25-2005 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
Hopefully the cry of the community will speed things up a little :/

Tell that to the grandaughter.

Tom84710 08-25-2005 05:18 AM

I thought it was the staffs intention not to inferre with the matters of the roleplaying, but since there is no roleplaying...

I say

THEY TOOK ER JERBS (they took er decent kingdoms)

I like fish (people)

Googi 08-25-2005 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom84710
I thought it was the staffs intention not to inferre with the matters of the roleplaying

I don't recall this ever being said by any staff member.

xRuffRydax 08-25-2005 05:32 AM

I don't know how many topics and threads have been made about the whole BO thing, but nothing apparently is going to change since the staff don't want anything to do with this. It's frustrating, and very annoying. The majority of the players want them to be gone, and yet the staff don't act to this.. *sigh*

UberModeKappa 08-25-2005 10:51 AM

Maybe if the playercount maxed out at 10 for a week some shizzle would be done. There is soo much wrong with Graal Kingdomsand thats why I refuse to play it.

Debaglio 08-25-2005 06:12 PM

Bel'la
 
Bel'la has been more active than you guys know. We have had multiple kingdom events in the past month.

Zurk nice try..... you really are funny. Level 8. Hah. Hand me a letter/ Ultimatum and tell me to surrender to your encampment... what encampment. The Knights have been watching the island.

Slowly but surley we are gaining decent members that like dark RP. Your slanderings cant chase them all off... because thats all you guys do, is PM our members and say crap like "Ohh your leaders a scammer..." Doesnt work.

I tried to get you to RP, but you wouldnt. You just put me on ignore. LoL. You aint takin over anything. Sorry Zurk. Talked to Matt Greoning about you too... .hes gonna draft up a little comic for me to post.

In the life of a Fish... hmm...

I tried to take over forest for 6 months........ lol. Then i went to Zormite to help with the rebuilt. Bel'la Olplyn Ultrin. Thanks for playin.

Peace

Googi 08-25-2005 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Debaglio
I tried to get you to RP, but you wouldnt. You just put me on ignore.

You put me on ignore.

nullify 08-25-2005 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Debaglio
Zurk nice try..... you really are funny. Level 8. Hah.

I'm level 110; which apparently means I"m better than you according to your logic. Although anyone is better than you by my logic. :(

xAndrewx 08-25-2005 08:01 PM

Hey, if you had a good reason, who knows. But, you don't.^^

Draenin 08-25-2005 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom84710
I thought it was the staffs intention not to inferre with the matters of the roleplaying

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Originally Posted by UberModeKappa
Maybe if the playercount maxed out at 10 for a week some shizzle would be done. There is soo much wrong with Graal Kingdomsand thats why I refuse to play it.

What the hell is up with people who don't even play GK much posting all of a sudden like they know what they're talking about? Stop it already!

Aside from that...
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Originally Posted by Debaglio
Bel'la has been more active than you guys know.

Prove it.
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Originally Posted by Debaglio
Hand me a letter/ Ultimatum and tell me to surrender to your encampment... what encampment. The Knights have been watching the island.

Knights? What Knights?
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Originally Posted by Debaglio
Slowly but surley we are gaining decent members that like dark RP.

'Dark RP,' the other white meat.
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Originally Posted by Debaglio
Talked to Matt Greoning about you too... .hes gonna draft up a little comic for me to post.

Ah. Cool. Maybe I'll get to see a comic soon crappily drawn in the style of Matt Groening. You just keep getting dumber, don't you?
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Originally Posted by Debaglio
I tried to take over forest for 6 months........ lol.

The hell you did! And quit using ellipsis marks everywhere. It doesn't make you look smart. It makes you look illiterate.

Butz 08-25-2005 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Debaglio
Bel'la has been more active than you guys know. We have had multiple kingdom events in the past month.

And these have been announced where?

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Zurk nice try..... you really are funny. Level 8. Hah. Hand me a letter/ Ultimatum and tell me to surrender to your encampment... what encampment. The Knights have been watching the island.
Stop bringing levels to an RP fight! Gaaahhh.... I don't know how many times I have to say it. Relying on a number that increases by mindlessly mashing the S button to determine roleplaying character strength is ludicrous! A merchant would never stand up against a knight in a fight, but say the knight spent his time carefully crafting a story about his past and interacting with people rather than heading to the caves day after day and ignoring the rest of the kingdom as he slew dievil after dievil as the merchant did. The merchant would slay the knight rather easily, even though that's completely nonsensical.

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I tried to get you to RP, but you wouldnt. You just put me on ignore. LoL. You aint takin over anything. Sorry Zurk. Talked to Matt Greoning about you too... .hes gonna draft up a little comic for me to post.
I haven't seen you trying to get anyone to RP, though admittedly, I don't see you online much at all... However, when I was on the island (which you weren't even a member of at the time, and were under the RIDICULOUS title of "God") you didn't even react to me in character, telling me to leave the island, and making derogatory comments about the RP Team.

Here's a few hints.
1) There is no RP Team in the land of the Graal Archipelago, so saying anything about it to Shawn will only confuse him.
2) You have no authority to tell people to leave an island of a Kingdom that you're not a member of.
3) If someone is standing on the docks, waiting for a ferry to come, what use is it to tell them to leave? That would be their intention in the first place I would think.

Even Zero Hour's dance threats that he makes whenever he spots me qualify as better roleplay than I've seen from you.

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In the life of a Fish... hmm...

I tried to take over forest for 6 months........ lol. Then i went to Zormite to help with the rebuilt. Bel'la Olplyn Ultrin. Thanks for playin.

Peace
As many people have said, you had no basis for taking over Forest. There were no existing dark elves in the Graal history, so you can't exactly raise them as an army. The Zormite Empire however, along with the Bellaserrans and others, did and still do exist in the Graal Continuity, making it possible for them to intermix, since the lands of the Archipelago are only a simple sail in a cardinal direction away from the lands of the Old Kingdoms.


Also. Andrew reminds me of a blind judge:
Sir, we have a written confession from this man stating that he killed those twenty people, we'd like to have something done to him

Where? I don't see any proof.

Umm, it's right here, right in front of your face, it's on paper, you can feel it. The bailiff can read it to you..

No, I don't see it, so it's not there.

Zurkiba 08-25-2005 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Debaglio
I tried to get you to RP, but you wouldnt. You just put me on ignore. LoL. You aint takin over anything. Sorry Zurk. Talked to Matt Greoning about you too... .hes gonna draft up a little comic for me to post.

Are you talking about this roleplay that you attempted to perform?

Googi 08-26-2005 12:04 AM

Also, Spiker tells me that someone in Bel'la Olplyn keeps adding him even though he quits every time.

AlaricoMontario 08-26-2005 12:23 AM

In short, our staff need to

A) Get off their lazy asses and do their job
B) Ban ETien and Kekfin
C) Make the kingdoms right again
D) LIsten to us, don't make us track you down. YOUR HERE to suit our game needs, (see point a for what they should do next)

SyLaTAC 08-27-2005 01:28 AM

Zurk could kill you in a RP fight thing levels dont mean **** if you dont feel the need to PK or Spar to much

OasaTor_PK 08-27-2005 03:23 AM

With me, joining Bel'la, trust me, It will be restored. I also have something to talk to you about Zurk, make sure you're in bmode too ^^.

Fr0chin 08-27-2005 04:04 AM

Yeah Zurk go in Bmode when you talk to him, and let me know I will go with you ;)

AlaricoMontario 08-27-2005 04:05 AM

Man.. you really do like the hate you get from turning your back on people, helping those already hated, and just adding to your resume, don't you OasaTor?


You may be the one person besides Raiden that I believe Samuel is justified in hating.. .and that's something considering even some of his own FAMILY don't get along with him.

OasaTor_PK 08-27-2005 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fr0chin
Yeah Zurk go in Bmode when you talk to him, and let me know I will go with you ;)

This is strictly Bel'la's problem, and has nothing to do with PKing him, I would rather not have Dustari envolved with this, because they are just like Bel'la, minusing the hate. Dustari is also inactive.

AlaricoMontario 08-27-2005 05:40 AM

Dustari has had more people on tag than samurai has had in a long time.

Bosh is slacking off, and has continued to slack off even after I believe Draxx& Las of Forest and Alan(?) suggested perhaps he lead his kingdom.

Googi 08-27-2005 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK
With me, joining Bel'la, trust me, It will be restored. I also have something to talk to you about Zurk, make sure you're in bmode too ^^.

Yeah, I remember talking to you. You were like "OMG KEFKIN SED I COULD BE PRINCE IF I JOINED BLLA!!!!"

OasaTor_PK 08-27-2005 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi
Yeah, I remember talking to you. You were like "OMG KEFKIN SED I COULD BE PRINCE IF I JOINED BLLA!!!!"

You're pretty good at capturing the moment eh Googi? I am pretty sure I was role playing, and said it in a way of "I shall bring what was once the Zormite Empire, back to Bel'la, and restore its power. I <b>MIGHT</B> become a prince. So will you sit down, and let me do what I want? Just because I feel like DOING something, is there something wrong with that? Samurai is as active as a 600 pound gold fish, so I decided to leave for Bel'la. Sorry madam, sit down and pity the all mighty upcoming power of Bel'la.

Googi 08-27-2005 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK
You're pretty good at capturing the moment eh Googi? I am pretty sure I was role playing, and said it in a way of "I shall bring what was once the Zormite Empire, back to Bel'la, and restore its power. I <b>MIGHT</B> become a prince. So will you sit down, and let me do what I want? Just because I feel like DOING something, is there something wrong with that? Samurai is as active as a 600 pound gold fish, so I decided to leave for Bel'la. Sorry madam, sit down and pity the all mighty upcoming power of Bel'la.

Uh, no. You said very specificly that Kefkin told you he would make you prince and you were leaving Samurai because you had such a low rank.

OasaTor_PK 08-27-2005 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi
Uh, no. You said very specificly that Kefkin told you he would make you prince and you were leaving Samurai because you had such a low rank.

No, I had offered him I would join Bel'la. I had a good rank in Samurai, just a stupid tag. ZOMG I AM A LESSER DEMON ROFFELLOLOL!LL!L!L!L@!LL@!L@!O#!QWI @LQK@ELKWL
Shush, you have as much useful imput as phh, well that kid that I cant remember his name.

Googi 08-27-2005 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK
No, I had offered him I would join Bel'la.

Perhaps you did, but you said that he promised to make you prince.

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Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK
I had a good rank in Samurai, just a stupid tag.

Again, perhaps you did, but that isn't what you said.

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Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK
Shush, you have as much useful imput as phh, well that kid that I cant remember his name.

And just how much do you have?

Zurkiba 08-27-2005 06:10 AM

You both stop -

I dont care if a person was bribed with rank or if I need to be in bmode or not. That is not the issue here.

The issue here is the community trying to fix the server - not to see who has the most dirt on another.

OasaTor_PK 08-27-2005 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
You both stop -

I dont care if a person was bribed with rank or if I need to be in bmode or not. That is not the issue here.

The issue here is the community trying to fix the server - not to see who has the most dirt on another.

I am simply trying to make an enjoyable roleplay opportunity, while Googi insists to be Lil. Miss, Im going to be cool and try to make Oasa Regret what he did.

Luigi1 08-27-2005 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK
With me, joining Bel'la, trust me, It will be restored. I also have something to talk to you about Zurk, make sure you're in bmode too ^^.

That'd essentially make it worse... :rolleyes:

Googi 08-27-2005 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
not to see who has the most dirt on another.

You say that, but you're posting screenshots to make Etien look bad (a noble endeavour).

Luigi1 08-27-2005 06:31 AM

Googi, that was your 13,337 post. :O Or you have 13,337 posts after making posts after that post... or something... @_@

And he posted that screenshot because Etien was being an idiot (as usual).


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