WAR! HOOH! GOOD GOD YALL! (2002 Improvement Thread, Meaning admins read this)
 

WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
ABSOLUTELY everything.

When we look back upon the history of Graal Kingdoms we will discover a clear and defined golden age of roleplaying. When was it?... 2003. In 2003 we saw the likes of Astri, the Samurai invasions, the Pirate conquests, etc. 2003 was a year that incorperated war into it's very system, and people interacted with war. Every kingdom had atleast 30 members online at a time, kingdom islands had uses, and everyone had fun.

Later down the road Graal Kingdoms became a server more about item collection then actual roleplaying. Power gamers emerged and level 10 wasn't so high anymore. Wars began to fade away as one person could conquer an entire kingdom by himself/herself. War grew into a fustration instead of a source of entertainment. With the fun roleplaying element of war gone, there was only political roleplaying (about half of total roleplaying). Political roleplaying in the sense that you make a kingdom house, ascend the ranks, and backstab a friend so that you can become the king of a tag. Graal Kingdom's population went straight down, I remember seeing no more then 20 on 2k2 at a time during this period. The population slowly grew again but it has never recovered since.

SO... what does this mean? Well it means if the roleplaying of Graal Kingdoms (what it was intended for, what it was made for) is to survive, then there -must- be equal war.

HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS? The equation to the problem is easy; a=b. If you are player a then you are equal to player b in every aspect (gameplay wise of course).

Bring back Kingdom-mode only tweak it a little. This tweaking makes everyone have 50 hp, no armor, no extra levels (strength, agility, etc), and their weapons (no matter what kind it is) does 1-5 damage. The actual weapons will not change, they will just hit a person in k-mode with 1-5 damage. When a person leaves k-mode, then their status returns to normal.

As stated above, the actual gameplay mechanics of this idea would work in this fashion -
If you are in K-mode, then you can only recieve damage from others in k-mode. Others in k-mode can only harm you for 1-5 hp points. If you are in k-mode, then your hp is temporarily set at 50. When you are in k-mode, you can not hunt creatures... it will simply fail each time (in return they can not hurt you). In k-mode you can hurt anyone else in k-mode, but that is it.

This will surely bring about more wars, ergo bringing more interactions, ergo improving roleplaying on 2k2. The implanting of this idea will not be hard, just do your services to the players and improve the game.

I suggested something like that a while ago.

And your description of 2003 is a pretty big exaggeration.

How about spells then? And mana?

full reset, its the only way

I say we make lots of topics like this, all get angry, then wait for Konidias to do something and support him with animated gif signatures.

Graal Kingdoms released like December 2002, 2003 is when all the fun stuff was happening.

1-5 damage each

So then we can be like Era! Horray!

Agreed

Isn't that how it always works?

Yeah, that's why I suggest it :cool:

It was originally released as Graal 2002 Alpha, and then Graal 2002, then Graal Kingdoms.

And K-mode was awesome, I HATE how they merged it with Battle mode. Used to allow for fun battles without outside interference.

Plus kingdoms which your kingdom has listed as Ally, you could not hurt its members in the heat of battle.

Get Konidas to make the sigs, and I'm in.

Agreed!

that's how we feel now, but how about a year ago when we owned the server's best items and literally dominated the USD ring? many people are in the same shoes as we were then, and the only reason we want reset's now is due to the fact that those "good ol' days" look so good to us now, because they are gone.

I wouldn't mind kingdom mode again.
As long as the speed isn't effected.

Everything has to be equal. Why would it be fair to have one guy walking around at .223 speed fighting some guy with 4.5 speed? Granted, it would be cool to incorperate armor with weight and whatnot, but that's getting ahead of the game.

zurk no admins will ever come through with this idea

i mean i love it and wish it were true but it just wont happen

It took three years to get an RP Team up... surely this will come about too.

I certainly hope so. I like the idea better than what we have now.

Level 8... take some time to develop your char before you try and take a kingdom. A forum war sounds like what you are looking for....

Quit slamming on other people. That isn't even the subject, Deb. We are talking about a new idea, not how much this or that person sucks at RPing. Chill.

I think it's a rather good idea. Some sort of an even plane would be nice. Even on games like WoW, the level 60s have to smack the level 20s a few times before they kill them. It's kind of disturbing when you compare that to GK, where you can be smacked by a sword prepped to ungodly stats and die instantaneously. I've seen screens from a long time ago in the callery where everyone was dueling each other with crappy shop-made axes. That crap looked fun.

No slam.
 

Feeling defensive???

He already 'took' a kingdom, unlike you. Who are you to speak?

Of people who don't need to be taking your crap. Yes.

I think it'd be rather neat, though, to be able to fight on an even plane with someone much much higher than you. Might add a little spice. Heck, even a special kind of arena for that would do.

Mr. Herman and his word of the day.
 

"TOOK"

. took, (tk) tak·en, (tkn) tak·ing, takes
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taka·ble adj.

This is all in the past... If he can take a kingdom so can I. You dont have to ask me who I am.... you obviously already know.

Your point?

Wow. That's an eyesore.

I posted that so you could give me your point. I defined the term for you... now elaborate.

In like, ten bajillion ways. That's fair.

Random....
 

Im waiting for GoZero to explain what he means my point.

I am an one that is looking to return the True Elvish Royalty. That is my point. I will TAKE the forest.... if Zurkiba gets to TAKE Bel'la, its only fair, for my RP has overshadowed his now, and has been going on for six months.

:rolleyes:

Okay my little retard, I'll "elaborate".


This is what you said. You understand that? Good.

That's part of what you said. What it exactly means is unclear to everyone but you, althought even that's not a given. We'll just assume that you imply that Zurkiba is "just" level 8 by that.

With this, you probably* mean that Zurkiba should get a few hundred more levels so that he can take on a kingdom on his on, before he "takes" a kingdom.

WRONG, FOO'

You see, Zurkiba has been level 8 for ages. And in that time, he conquered almost every kingdom there is.

In other words: Shut your mouth, you don't know a damn thing. You're challenging him to do thing he already has done.



* Probably - since you seem to have some attention disorder, we can never know for sure what you mean.

Read My Posts...
 

There you go with the personal insults..... lol.. you allways have to throw one in....

Nope... only DRK and FRO are the master levelers... I am only a level 22, and I am going to take forest.

I think Zurk is being rediculous by saying we all need the same stats... makes sence since he cares nothing about char development and game play... which is a big part of GK. THE BIGGEST part.

If by restoring the "True" elven royalty, you mean you, I have news: You were never Forest royalty to begin with, you clod.

And if you do happen to somehow miraculously 'take' the throne of a kingdom you are not even welcome in, I can assure you that there's about fifty angry GK players out there who've figured out how to combine the drift wood and nails, and have you in their sights.

Look idiot, I'm not gonna talk nice to you since you don't deserve it. Got that? Good.

First, adress my ****in' point.

Second: You're wrong. Again.

- Zurk does not say we all need the same stats.
- Char development actually is not the biggest part of GK, or atleast wasn't intended to be.

Hostile!
 

What is the biggest part of Graal? Certainly not the MOB's... and dungeons.. wait why do you even go in there? WHy do you do maps... to develop your char.... I understand RP is a big part of it, but not when you ignore others RP attempts.

Seriously consider how you are treating me... you look rediculous, and you might end up getting a lil warning from staff.

Are you saying I'm right now, or is it an attempt at sarcasm?

:rolleyes:

The only one bringin RP to the table is Kefkin and I. Gryff pops on with some stuff every three months...... but other than that, char development is GK's major selling point.

It makes sense why you are staff now... you are in the pocket of the players... hmmm ... BJORN... SAM....

Gryff is having a hard time keeping up with the RP, that is why he is gaging. I can see his ventricles enlarging with fluid from the thought of 'our' RP being enstated, and followed.

Gryff hates you.

And if you bring RP to the table, then why are we all dry heaving?

Deb: You will NEVER take over Forest. Don't even try it. You can scam as many items as you want, but it will NEVER happen.


As for this idea:

I like it. Know why? Because the fact that one player alone can take over a kingdom filled with like 100 people is ridiculous. During kingdom wars, everything should be balanced. Why? Because then that will determine which kingdom has more skilled fighters. It won't be about who has a higher level or who has better items, but rather, it will be about who has the best skilled members.

Would definitely even things out and give meaning to kingdom wars. Currently, they are ridiculous, since clearly Dustari overpowers every other kingdom (levels/items wise).

I highly respect the amount of work that Dustari members have put into getting their items, but yes, it would be nice to see us all on an even keel.

It wouldn't even make sense for Dustari to EVER attack Forest. You'd think having one of their oldest living Dukes in Forest would help to establish SOME kind of loose peace, ne?

I took forest while you were on Bel'la
 

I have seized the western shore of forest. I will battle to the elvish royalty is re-established.