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oinknessx 01-13-2005 08:13 AM

MIDI Pack Idea
 
Hi. I am interested in making MIDI Packs, the problem is I haven't been able to get in touch with Mr. Knorr or unixmad... I do understand that they are very busy, so I decided to see what people actually think of the idea before it may be acted on...

The question is... Do you think it is a good idea to make new musical content for playerworlds... MIDI Packs... that they could use on their playerworlds? Probably distributed along with the "levels" pack... In my personal opinion, I think some new tunes would bring some soul back to the playerworlds, making a more enjoyable adventuring experience! But I am not going to vote, because it is up to you.

Of course, the desicion to use midis or not would be a desicion made by the playerworld management, as always!

Butz 01-13-2005 08:30 AM

Well, Graal already comes with the standard Midis that it's always come with. I would think that custom musical content, just like any other custom playerworld content, would be the responsibility of the playerworld staff.

oinknessx 01-13-2005 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Butz
Well, Graal already comes with the standard Midis that it's always come with. I would think that custom musical content, just like any other custom playerworld content, would be the responsibility of the playerworld staff.

Ummm well I dunno. As long as the music is free for all to use, there's no hurt in just doing it and possibly making some people glad.. Think of it as an expansion pack. But with music. :)

Evil_Trunks 01-13-2005 08:37 AM

I think people just want to hear midis from Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger or whatever

oinknessx 01-13-2005 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil_Trunks
I think people just want to hear midis from Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger or whatever

Who knows, maybe the experience they have while adventuring and listening to the music will make them glad like the experiences they had while playing final fantasy games. :)

Butz 01-13-2005 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil_Trunks
I think people just want to hear midis from Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger or whatever

Which is really not supposed to be allowed for the same reason that copyrighted images weren't supposed to be uploaded to the servers.

oinknessx 01-13-2005 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Butz
Which is really not supposed to be allowed for the same reason that copyrighted images weren't supposed to be uploaded to the servers.

Ahhh... I haven't really had MIDIs enabled myself on playerworlds, so I didn't know they were using FF and CT midis. Sorry to incorrectly answer your statement.... but yeah... I probably would have said somewhat of the same thing anyway. If people had epic music that was exciting and cool... maybe, well maybe, they'd just switch from illegal midis over to graal midis. :-)

Polo 01-13-2005 09:37 AM

I just like the default classic midi's :) especially armashop and jfbebop

Moonite 01-13-2005 09:52 AM

ig anyone lissing to those midi's anyways?

bef 01-13-2005 12:41 PM

i always listen to mp3s while playing graal, but if it actually had decent midi's and replaced the awful slashing sounds etc i'd much rather listen to the actual graal ones.

Zero Hour 01-13-2005 05:33 PM

Ew. I turn those horrible little turrets of low quality sound off. I can't stand MIDIs, they throw my into a killing frenzy.

HoudiniMan 01-13-2005 11:30 PM

Can't host music on servers now anyway, so i think it would be a great idea to make a list of URLs to music on a webserver that you'd let anybody use.

oinknessx 01-14-2005 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HoudiniMan
Can't host music on servers now anyway, so i think it would be a great idea to make a list of URLs to music on a webserver that you'd let anybody use.

Well if the music was on the person's computer, there wouldn't be the problem of midi hosting on the net because it would just play from their harddrive... And it would not be a problem to get the new midis at all, because new users would download the levels pack and get the midis after they just sign up for graal... and since the size of the levels pack is pretty small, it wouldn't be hard at all for anyone to update to the "new version" of the level pack.

Projectshifter 01-15-2005 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by oinknessx
Ummm well I dunno. As long as the music is free for all to use, there's no hurt in just doing it and possibly making some people glad.. Think of it as an expansion pack. But with music. :)

Free hardly means it is good ;) And then I think that it's more important for playerworlds to have unique things than to just have the standard. Anymore new playerworlds need different tilesets than just the original, because it is boring and played-out almost. Times change, so it makes sense for each playerworld to have unique content.

oinknessx 01-15-2005 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Projectshifter
Times change, so it makes sense for each playerworld to have unique content.

That may be so, but how many playerworlds actually have unique content? How many use ideas that have been done before?

There is a really small ammount of playerworlds that actually are even able to make unique content..

But in my own opinion, it's not the tilesets or the flashy scripts that make servers good... Remember Bravo, way back before the time of p2p? Now THAT was good! And people always helped you out and everyone did quests together...

Projectshifter 01-15-2005 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by oinknessx
That may be so, but how many playerworlds actually have unique content? How many use ideas that have been done before?

There is a really small ammount of playerworlds that actually are even able to make unique content..

But in my own opinion, it's not the tilesets or the flashy scripts that make servers good... Remember Bravo, way back before the time of p2p? Now THAT was good! And people always helped you out and everyone did quests together...

Actually many servers have things that are unique in some manner or another. At least if they use the same music files, they don't differ in that aspect in the slightest bit, it's still the exact same files.
Also the tilsets and "flashy scripts" (although this is an ironic way to phrase scripting) make up part of the server, but they are not the server itself. It's the combination of levels and scripts that make up the gameplay, and then the graphics is putting a nice pretty bow on top and makes it look "flashy" as you put it. Being slightly biased perhaps, I think that scripts are one of the more important things because it directly effects gameplay, limitations, hacking abilities, and more importantly the lag factor. Also it tends to be the hardest form of development. Graphics and levels are more of "art" or in the eye of the beholder you could say. I have yet to see tiling or a graphic that has a bug and then therefore crashes the server or causes everyone to simultaneously lag and ruin the entire game :P

oinknessx 01-15-2005 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Projectshifter
I have yet to see tiling or a graphic that has a bug and then therefore crashes the server or causes everyone to simultaneously lag and ruin the entire game :P

Haha you remind me of Office Space where the guys are gonna make a virus that steals money, and the other guy is like... you have my stapler, gonna catch the building on fire. :eek:

But anyway, if there is enough choice between the music, I'm sure there could be enough for everyone.. Sure it would be a lot of work, but thats what we're here for. :frown:

Projectshifter 01-15-2005 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by oinknessx
Haha you remind me of Office Space where the guys are gonna make a virus that steals money, and the other guy is like... you have my stapler, gonna catch the building on fire. :eek:

But anyway, if there is enough choice between the music, I'm sure there could be enough for everyone.. Sure it would be a lot of work, but thats what we're here for. :frown:

LOL, what me, I've never written a virus before :eek: He he, yeah, totally not the fat guy that burns down because you took my freaking stapler!

But yeah, if you want to have unique content, just make different midis based upon different playerworlds. Customized stuff is the best. If you're going to do that, then take requests and do each playerworld individually than doing open source type. Well... open source is a coding term, not a graphic term, but you get the concept.

Mitch 01-29-2005 07:36 PM

I'm in agreement with ProjectShifter, playerworlds should have their own music that best fits their specific "theme" as you might call it. Although I wouldn't mind Final Fantasy as you could tell by my graphics, but that doesn't change the fact that it is copywritten. Not only that but if multiple playerworlds had the same music it would be just plain boring...


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