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protagonist 12-21-2004 05:51 PM

Taking another break.
 
I can't really do much anyway in the way of duties because my RC is broken, but I'm also breaking from the forums for awhile simply because I'm finding it increasingly hard not to go on an attack streak against a certain antagonist. I'm sick of the childish behavior from Lance (I'm sure that it is taboo to actually name the troublemaker, but face it mods: you've experienced it from him as much as I have, if not more), and guess what? We are all going to have a nice, easy Christmas without it, at least from me. I'm sure he'll find someone else to bug while I'm gone.

His childish behavior is bad, but I would like occasionally to take him on and call him on it. All you do by closing threads is give him the last word, which he simply loves getting. Thanks for validating his efforts.

I'm sure someone will say "well by responding you're validating them", but this is untrue. He's going to keep doing as he has in the past until someone makes a fool of him, which is never going to happen if you don't let one of these arguments boil until the end publicly. I mean, look at the scripting forum. He attacks people who don't know any better. Sure they should read the rules, but does that really mean that he should break them? By the way, I'm not referring to his moderation, because that would definately be against the rules. I'm referring to his normal posts. The fact he is a moderator apparently has no bearing on how he treats people, so it is irrelevant to these statements.

These are not personal attacks at all (or even opinions) I'm stating, by the way. These are facts based on easily made observations that every member of this community should be able to make.

Alot, and I do mean more than one or two people, say how it is so unbefitting of me to respond to such behavior since I'm a PWA member. I'd just like to say that my behavior is fairly innocent compared to some other individuals who hold higher positions (Hint: not in my department or the GGT), and I did not give up my humanity or free will when I signed on. I have to deal with alot and I've seen alot of things I could do without seeing (for a few more years, anyway) as a PWA member. It's kind of sad that the first real pornographic material (not the annoying banner ads that occasionally appear) I ever saw was on Graal (yes, I am that sheltered). Anyway, that's the price of the job I guess, and I assumed that there would inevitably be some of that. I'll happily pay it too, but I still would like to retain the right to respond to an argument.

I would guess that half of my post will be edited, closed or deleted because it is too truthful. I do not have total lack of faith in the moderators, however, and I hope they see my point and leave it open. Yeah, Lance will probably respond, and yeah, it'll probably be argumentative. I can look after myself though, I don't need people to protect me from him. No actual rules are broken in these arguments, we were simply debating logically. Sure there were heated comments made, but that is because it is a debate. They are pointless unless you are trying to win. It doesn't end until someone loses, and the negative feelings don't magically go away when a thread is frozen in mid-stride. In fact, that just allows aggression to spill into other threads, which is why I'm respectfully absent until next week (unless, of course, I am banned, in which case it may be an undeterminable amount of time, but I really can't see anything that unfair happening).

I'm not an aggressive person by nature. It usually takes a fair amount to get me going. It should be obvious by the way the scripting forum is managed that I am not the culprit. Since I have the testicular fortitude to make a post about it and, golly gee, the consideration to even call it off until after Christmas so that we can all have a nice holiday, I would hope that my character isn't suspect. Sorry if I disappointed anyone by posting this, but you know he has it coming, and nothing has changed and nothing will change unless you let it ride out til the end. Even if it means letting a little stain get on the forums, I think it would help.



Merry Christmas to everyone.

xAndrewx 12-21-2004 05:59 PM

i think ur kool! :D
have fun

syltburk 12-21-2004 06:12 PM

These flame wars is getting old. There is only one person to blaim on.

Loriel 12-21-2004 08:18 PM

I think you suck for bringing that stuff up again, and hiding it in this forum!

Also, I would like to reserve some of the childish-behaviour-and-bad-moderation-of-the-scripting-forum cake for myself.

FYI, check out the wiki, for a mirror of your post that is not as much subject to moderatorial arbitration.

GryffonDurime 12-21-2004 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loriel
I think you suck for bringing that stuff up again, and hiding it in this forum![/color]

You mean how he's bringing something up for discussion on these discussion forums?

Loriel 12-21-2004 08:32 PM

Yeah, in the discussion-unrelated part of the forums that we all know and love as the place to welcome and drive away people.


I really need to stop with the emphasis.

Crono 12-21-2004 09:52 PM

man VT, lets pwn some n00bs on gunbound (not an mmorpg)

syltburk 12-21-2004 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami
man VT, lets pwn some n00bs on gunbound (not an mmorpg)

I played gunbound before you even knew it excisted boy, after a while the game gets boring when pornos run around and says "GAL GAL GAL GAL", let the koreans do their little pornos alone its disgusting to see a girlfriend and boyfriend on gunbound ...

You dont know how it is to be in a game where a couple pretended having sex -.-

Malinko 12-21-2004 10:16 PM

Have a good winter break, VT.

Crono 12-21-2004 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syltburk
I played gunbound before you even knew it excisted boy, after a while the game gets boring when pornos run around and says "GAL GAL GAL GAL", let the koreans do their little pornos alone its disgusting to see a girlfriend and boyfriend on gunbound ...

You dont know how it is to be in a game where a couple pretended having sex -.-

Wtf, I've played gunbound since August 2003 :P

falco10291029 12-22-2004 04:33 AM

good show, protagonist :)

I feel the same way about a few such people myself.

ZanderX 12-22-2004 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syltburk
You dont know how it is to be in a game where a couple pretended having sex -.-

People do it in Graal, dude.

Lance 12-22-2004 04:39 AM

Awesome, this thread seems to be more about attacking me than about taking a break. Isn't there some sort of rule against making threads to attack people?

Oh, and as for stating ahead of time that they're not attacks, an old saying comes to mind: "Calling a sheep's tail a leg does not make it one."

Edit: VT, perhaps now you realize that sometimes people close threads they shouldn't?

ZanderX 12-22-2004 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance
Awesome, this thread seems to be more about attacking me than about taking a break. Isn't there some sort of rule against making threads to attack people?

Indeeddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd ddddddd.

falco10291029 12-22-2004 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance
Awesome, this thread seems to be more about attacking me than about taking a break. Isn't there some sort of rule against making threads to attack people?

there is, but it seems that he worded just well enough that he can't get in trouble for it ;)

FenixTheBanished 12-22-2004 10:17 AM

You people use the "rules" as your defense when you have no other way of Defense.

Quit hiding behind the rules when you need them, and avoiding them entirely when it suits you. -_-'


~

Anyways, later VT, have fun doing whatever.

Lance 12-22-2004 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished
You people use the "rules" as your defense when you have no other way of Defense.

Quit hiding behind the rules when you need them, and avoiding them entirely when it suits you. -_-'

This would be an awesome comment if I was somehow 'avoiding the rules' that I advocated other times.

Anyway, there are some errors in perception going on right now, but VT and I are working on clearing these up. It is my hope indeed that he will not take this time off of Graal, but will instead stay and work towards the betterment of Graal with the rest of us. I feel that this thread probably should not have been posted in its current form, but I must say that I am glad that it was, as it is leading to the reconciliation of said errors in perception.

xAndrewx 12-22-2004 11:25 AM

It isn't just you lance, It's his RC aswell. Don't take it personal.

syltburk 12-22-2004 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZanderX
People do it in Graal, dude.

I know, but graal is okay because graal is graal.

I had golden helmet and golden armor O_O :D

Loriel 12-22-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZanderX
Indeeddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd ddddddd.

Are you not supposed to, uh, close this thread then, or something?

syltburk 12-22-2004 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loriel
Are you not supposed to, uh, close this thread then, or something?

I dont think close is the right word, but maybe remove some content?

Admins 12-23-2004 06:25 AM

Protagonist, your RC is not broken, it's just that you haven't sent me a new IP range yes

Brad 12-23-2004 06:33 AM

why are people such *****s on the forums now

why cant it be like the old times when everyone was aloud to be a complete ****head

zell12 12-23-2004 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad
why are people such *****s on the forums now

why cant it be like the old times when everyone was aloud to be a complete ****head

I don't remember anyone being a ****head back then Brad. I think it was just you. ^^ lol

And VT, why is it that you keep attacking Lance?

ZanderX 12-23-2004 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loriel
Are you not supposed to, uh, close this thread then, or something?

Well, that's curious. I could have sworn I did already. Boo.


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