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Raelyn 11-23-2004 09:54 AM

Hiring one scripter. Info Inside.
 
I am not hiring alot of staff, very few and only out of necessity. In this case, I cannot script much more than simple things. I am a graphics, gani and creative design man, not well suited for scripting and don't have the time in a day to pump out new spritesheets and ganis for them as well as struggle through my scripting ineptitude.

Obviously I don't know enough about scripting to judge how well a scripter is suited for this position, so I would be taking your word for it. Scripter needs to be dedicated to the project, freeloaders who do minimal work to maintain RC on multiple servers need not apply, again, the reason why I am not hiring alot of staff.

There will be benefits, when I say hire, I don't mean you will do work for the server and gain nothing in return, I use hire literally. For information about these "benefits" and about the project before you choose wether it is the project you would like to dedicate your valuable time and effort to, contact me here;

AIM: frolicgfx
Email: [email protected]

Loriel 11-23-2004 03:48 PM

Thanks for making yet another hiring post with about no information.

Zurkiba 11-23-2004 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
Thanks for making yet another hiring post with about no information.

We dont even know what server it is :(

TESTRETIS 11-23-2004 10:10 PM

Yes..what server >.<

GoZelda 11-23-2004 10:34 PM

If you were interested in what server it was you could ask him...

Raelyn 11-24-2004 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
Thanks for making yet another hiring post with about no information.

I left contact information for a reason, why bother posting my concepts for all to see when I could just tell the select few who care?

Kaimetsu 11-24-2004 12:29 AM

Because this way nobody will care.

zokemon 11-24-2004 12:52 AM

Obviously people have replied so please keep your little comments to your selves.

Kaimetsu 11-24-2004 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon
Obviously people have replied so please keep your little comments to your selves.

Of those, what percentage has expressed an interest in joining?

protagonist 11-24-2004 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Of those, what percentage has expressed an interest in joining?

They've expressed interest in knowing about it.

Raelyn 11-24-2004 02:25 AM

I've been contacted for info several times already, so obviously the thread is serving it's purpose.

Raelyn 11-24-2004 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Because this way nobody will care.

Maybe by giving them need to contact me, it's a way to filter out the ones that are lazy, too lazy to contact me.

If you're too lazy to simply send me a message and ask a few questions, you're probably not someone who needs to know anything anyways.

Kaimetsu 11-24-2004 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
Maybe by giving them need to contact me, it's a way to filter out the ones that are lazy, too lazy to contact me

And maybe checking threads for interesting information is a way for scripters to filter out the managers that are incompetent, too incompetent to work with.

Googi 11-24-2004 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
They've expressed interest in knowing about it.

Somehow I doubt that Zurkiba and Ben Rain plan on applying.

protagonist 11-24-2004 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
Somehow I doubt that Zurkiba and Ben Rain plan on applying.


It sounds like he is offering dollars for scripting. I wouldn't make any presumptions, but that's what it seems like.

Kaimetsu 11-24-2004 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
It sounds like he is offering dollars for scripting

Possibly, but could he really offer enough to tempt the upper echelon?

Raelyn 11-27-2004 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
And maybe checking threads for interesting information is a way for scripters to filter out the managers that are incompetent, too incompetent to work with.

Well, how about the fact that I am competant enough not to make my ideas directly public on a forum grazed by people also making servers whom may or may not be creative enough to get their own?

Raelyn 11-27-2004 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
It sounds like he is offering dollars for scripting. I wouldn't make any presumptions, but that's what it seems like.

I could very well be, as long as the scripter is competant enough for the tasks at hand and produces work of a quality worth being paid for, and dedicated enough to get the job done, not that the server die off after 3 months of developing like so many others whom staff simply lose interest.

Kai, the above description is the scripter that I require, wether the tasks at hand will require the higher quality scripters or not is debatable, but I only intend to hire someone that is capable, or near enough that they can figure it out.

This is not a hire and fire project, I want the people working on it to stay working on it, so no one is picking up where someone left off, or starting over on things that are already halfway done.

This is not a project where people will idle on RC or chat about the weather, or the red sox or "whatever". Not that it's a strict number, or that messing around is frowned upon entirely, but time is valuable, and I don't want to waste mine, just as much as I am sure dedicated scripters don't like to waste theirs. I've worked for a server or two that hired me, gave me a project, and I did it and asked for another one, continued on for about 3-4 weeks before I realised, everyone else in the staff list was "Manager" "Co-Manager" or "Asst. Manager" and did little or nothing to counter my work. It's not a good feeling. I don't consider myself as "Managing" this project, as a matter of fact Kaimetsu, I consider myself to be the local graphics guy of the server. Paying for a server doesn't mean I get to sit on my ass while other people are making progress. I don't intend to hire anyone else for graphics, and my project will require alot of graphics work, more than enough to keep me busy, as I stated in one of the reasons to hire a scripter.

Kai, I welcome you to apply, or to contact me privately for information, but if you were so disapointed by my "less than informative" thread that all you can give is negative input, I wouldn't blame you for not doing so.

Kaimetsu 11-27-2004 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
I am competant enough not to make my ideas directly public on a forum grazed by people also making servers whom may or may not be creative enough to get their own?

So how are we expected to distinguish between a talentless hack and a competent-but-secretive manager? Because the truly talented scripters ain't gonna go asking you for information unless they're already interested in the project.

Raelyn 11-28-2004 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
So how are we expected to distinguish between a talentless hack and a competent-but-secretive manager? Because the truly talented scripters ain't gonna go asking you for information unless they're already interested in the project.

I guess I'll have to settle for one of the less talented, but more outgoing scripters in the community.

I'm surprised to see Kaimetsu is the voice of every "truly talented scripter" in graal, is he the leader, the charismatic voice of talented graal scripters around the world? Come on, how can you say that 'ALL' talented scripters would show no interest, you are not all talented scripters, you are 'A' talented scripter.

Raelyn 11-28-2004 09:23 AM

3 Attachment(s)
One of the system required to be scripted.

Isometric movement with elevation.

Crono 11-28-2004 01:06 PM

looks 3d :)

Loriel 11-28-2004 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
I'm surprised to see Kaimetsu is the voice of every "truly talented scripter" in graal

He is not, however you should not ignore the insight he is giving you.

Kaimetsu 11-28-2004 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
I'm surprised to see Kaimetsu is the voice of every "truly talented scripter" in graal

I don't speak for them, but even you should realise that I know scripters better than you do.

thrashsoul 11-28-2004 05:30 PM

Leave the kid alone Kai.

protagonist 11-29-2004 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Possibly, but could he really offer enough to tempt the upper echelon?


Whatever it is beats what they're getting paid now, in all likelyhood.

Nitkizi 11-29-2004 04:36 PM

I think what they are trying to get at is to describe the project that you are working on, like the theme of the server, what's it about, etc. etc. I'm sure money may tempt some, but as you can see with Kai, money or no money, they don't want to work unless the project interests them as well.

I think it is in the rules of this forum that you need to explain something about your server, is it not? I don't really care myself, I'm just saying, so don't jump down my throat.

zokemon 11-29-2004 07:37 PM

As a scripter, I look for a manager that seems responcible and mature. One example of this is the fact that they spend time on making sure they have proper grammer and spelling when talk to you. Ideas arn't the only insentive to work for a server...

Kaimetsu 11-29-2004 07:46 PM

To be fair, Raelyn, the screenshots you posted are exactly the kind of thing I was asking for. They show that you're a manager who'll innovate and provide interesting challenges for his staff members, plus they illustrate a concept that Joe Uncreative couldn't easily steal. I hope you get the help you need.

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Originally Posted by zokemon
As a scripter, I look for a manager that seems responcible and mature. One example of this is the fact that they spend time on making sure they have proper grammer and spelling when talk to you

Are you saying that people with poor spelling skills are less likely to be mature and responsible?

calum 11-29-2004 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon
As a scripter, I look for a manager that seems responcible and mature. One example of this is the fact that they spend time on making sure they have proper grammer and spelling when talk to you. Ideas arn't the only insentive to work for a server...

As a scripter, I look for a manager that seems Responsible and mature. One example of this is the fact that they spend time on making sure they have proper grammer and spelling when they talk to you. Ideas Aren’t the only incentive to work for a server...

Maturity -4
Responsibility -4

zokemon 11-29-2004 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by calum
As a scripter, I look for a manager that seems Responsible and mature. One example of this is the fact that they spend time on making sure they have proper grammer and spelling when they talk to you. Ideas Aren’t the only incentive to work for a server...

Maturity -4
Responsibility -4

Don't go argueing to me about spelling and grammer errors when you your self capitalized aren't and responsible. Besides, I am not a manager. I don't look for my self. :whatever:

Raelyn 11-30-2004 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
I don't speak for them, but even you should realise that I know scripters better than you do.

I don't ignore the insight, and I am sure you know the scripters better than myself, but the evidence in my inbox tells a different story from that which you are telling.

Kai, I have nothing against you, I respect you as a scripter, but even you have to admit, some of your comments go above and beyond in the negativity department.

Raelyn 11-30-2004 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
To be fair, Raelyn, the screenshots you posted are exactly the kind of thing I was asking for. They show that you're a manager who'll innovate and provide interesting challenges for his staff members, plus they illustrate a concept that Joe Uncreative couldn't easily steal. I hope you get the help you need.



Are you saying that people with poor spelling skills are less likely to be mature and responsible?

Well Kai, all my ideals are fairly, if not entirely original, and even if they are inspired by other things, my own method of implentation is definately original.

I think the fact that the whole server staff is going to consist of me and a scripter shows that I am a responsible and mature "manager" (if you must continue to call me that). Most immature and irresponsible managers would hire 10 staff, make them all co-manager, and sit around shooting the **** on RC all day, while I, on the other hand, am hiring ONE person, who is a scripter, alongside myself, providing graphics and concepts to work our asses off and finish the majority of the server before I even put my $99 into the hat. Even then, I don't intend to stop serving up more and more content, at the very least, monthly.

I strive to be superior to Joe Uncreative, my whole life is a fight against mediocrity and to announce my individuality to the world. Also, as biased as it may be, I think out of the people I've known to have poor grammar, ~85% of them were immature and irresponsible.

Kai, I will add more posts displaying various concepts and screenshots, I hope that pleases you, no offense, but don't mistake that for concern of your opinion.

Loriel 11-30-2004 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
the evidence in my inbox tells a different story from that which you are telling.

I think evidence inside your inbox is worthless while it stays there.

Loriel 11-30-2004 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Whatever it is beats what they're getting paid now, in all likelyhood.

But is it enough to work for the OP... ?

Kaimetsu 11-30-2004 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn
I think the fact that the whole server staff is going to consist of me and a scripter shows that I am a responsible and mature "manager" (if you must continue to call me that)

I wasn't talking to you there. But out of curiosity, what title would you prefer?

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I hope that pleases you, no offense, but don't mistake that for concern of your opinion.
S'okay. I will be interested to see what you have. At least then the project will make some impact on the Graal world, despite its inevitable failure :)

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you have to admit, some of your comments go above and beyond in the negativity department
What? Surely not.

zokemon 11-30-2004 03:30 AM

That signiture fits you perfectly Kai.

Raelyn 11-30-2004 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

S'okay. I will be interested to see what you have. At least then the project will make some impact on the Graal world, despite its inevitable failure :)

What? Surely not.

Ahem, enough said.

Raelyn 11-30-2004 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon
That signiture fits you perfectly Kai.

Suggesting that Kai is a monkey banging on a keyboard? :)

Seems rather rude, but maybe that was his intended suggestion with that signature? :o

Kaimetsu 11-30-2004 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon
That signiture fits you perfectly Kai.

And yours is, unfortunately, completely inaccurate.

Dawg, you can't make fun of a person when he's already making fun of himself. It doesn't work. It just makes you look slow and unimaginative.


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