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protagonist 02-03-2004 09:46 PM

Grrrr
 
Ok.

How does this STUPID failing system work?

I just spent 4k on a frigging summon avatar and failed it, and now I have to start from scratch to get it again.
I have 17 int. I have level 10 wisdom. I should be able to learn it.

I just don't get this stupid thing, and it really pisses me off that I spent so much time just to fail it.

I really would like to not fail again. So how does it work?

Khallos_2k2 02-03-2004 10:06 PM

When I learn something, I usually take off EVERYTHING except the items which help me learn it.
IE: Rabbit Tooth Charm, Lucky Boots, Short Skull Sword of Lythander (all three give luck+1), and both of my int+2 rings.
That's all. Nothing else. May not do anything, but that's just the way I do it.
It also helps if you have a reasonably high mental level, and a high wisdom/magic level.

skyler87 02-03-2004 10:13 PM

The learning of summon avatar is wisdom based. With 10 wisdom, you have about a 10/20 chance of learning it ;)

Splke 02-03-2004 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skyler87
The learning of summon avatar is wisdom based. With 10 wisdom, you have about a 10/20 chance of learning it ;)
10/30 its always done from the Max stat possible

GoZelda 02-03-2004 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Splke


10/30 its always done from the Max stat possible

Explains why i failed with 21 wis (or int)

Satrek2000 02-03-2004 10:41 PM

Learning also depends on your mental level. Luck also helps, and I heard rumors about armour lowering your chances, too.

I failed Avatar 3 times - always with 2 wis+2-rings, rabbit charm (once when they had luck+15), lucky boots... x_x

Splke 02-03-2004 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Satrek2000
Learning also depends on your mental level. Luck also helps, and I heard rumors about armour lowering your chances, too.
Luck = yes
Mental = for casting the spells, not for learning them
Armour = usually bungles, so it could be true.

protagonist 02-03-2004 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Satrek2000
Learning also depends on your mental level. Luck also helps, and I heard rumors about armour lowering your chances, too.

I failed Avatar 3 times - always with 2 wis+2-rings, rabbit charm (once when they had luck+15), lucky boots... x_x

T_T

Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

GoZelda 02-03-2004 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Satrek2000

I failed Avatar 3 times - always with 2 wis+2-rings, rabbit charm (once when they had luck+15), lucky boots... x_x

I failed it once.

OWNED

protagonist 02-03-2004 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoZelda

I failed it once.

OWNED

My brother, Zenith Shea, failed it 0. :|

That's just annoying.

DragonX 02-04-2004 12:46 AM

Re: Grrrr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by protagonist

I have 17 int. I have level 10 wisdom.

Intelligence doesn't matter while learning prayers. You need your wisdom stat raised and your mental level too. Intelligence only helps you while learning spells while wisdom with prayers.

Splke 02-04-2004 01:00 AM

Re: Re: Grrrr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DragonX


Intelligence doesn't matter while learning prayers. You need your wisdom stat raised and your mental level too. Intelligence only helps you while learning spells while wisdom with prayers.

Hes right yall... :rolleyes:

graaliholic 02-04-2004 01:33 AM

Re: Grrrr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by protagonist
Ok.

How does this STUPID failing system work?

I just spent 4k on a frigging summon avatar and failed it, and now I have to start from scratch to get it again.
I have 17 int. I have level 10 wisdom. I should be able to learn it.

I just don't get this stupid thing, and it really pisses me off that I spent so much time just to fail it.

I really would like to not fail again. So how does it work?

First off, you're all wrong. Secondly, if you get me your wis stat (at the time of reading it), your wis level, and the amount of luck you have, I can tell you exactly what your chances were of learning it.

Satrek2000 02-04-2004 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by protagonist
Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
It was an interesting experience, which kinda puts you in place in the world... specially when you see barbarians withour tings learn it on first try...


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