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TribulationStaff 08-21-2003 07:48 AM

Payerworld First Impressions
 
Note: Worlds which do not allow login at all not listed. These are not flames, these are constructive critiques.

Alvadore: Lots of unfinished levels which are very...square. I've said it before and I will say it again, if you aren't going to put a link, don't put an open door.

Archaic: I always like to see a good UC screen. It shows that the staff understand that unfinished good levels are still bad levels. It also makes me want to check back later. On the oither hand, those light effects look very familiar; I think they must be public domain or something.

Area 51: This applies to all servers, but this one I saw it first. Do not use the provided onlinestartlocal, yuck. And that login sign shows on playerenters, not actionplayeronline.

Arid Haven: I know that this isn't a payerworld, but I really like this UC screen, and I wanted to mention that I have the top score on it muahahaha.

Asgard: Ok UC level, but not great. And what is that weird lighteffect on the water?

Athania: I like to see a few toys to play with when going on a UC area, it means you understand there is more to gameplay than pk. However, what is up with the invisible walls?

Aura: Ouch. Don't tell us to say /staff then not have it work. Secondly, woah, where did the house go when I went outside?

Beyond Force: Again unlinked doors=bad. Also, keep in mind many people disable html in their PMs. Also, no NPCs of which to speak. In other words, nothing to do but PK

Celestia Reborn: Boring UC levels with nothing to do but PK. I don't like how those two guards have overlapping chat text.

Chaos Faction: It seems ominous to me that the very first NPCw I encountered was the same old 2k1 style mining. On the up side, I like that the UC area has a map.

Colosso: Tile errors and unlinked open doors. No NPCs of any sort.

Cryptic Dunes: What the? Why am I getting a message intended for "Zal." Come on, at least throw on a #a check guys. And there is another unlinked open door.

Dark Diamond: Empty news npc, and oh, look an empty green gmap...

DreamScape: YES! New sign/q menu graphics. A good sign. Although there is that unlinked staircase in the start house and some odd usage of tiles.

Elven Lands: This is a personal opinion but I have always preferred chat color setting to those boxes. All the tiling is the basic stuff nothing new. There is that cathedral without back.

Enigma Graal: *sigh* Still the same old server from the looks of it. I got bored of it back in the days of the DemonLords. Although, I do like that you have some new mobs.

Faldur: Stationary waterfalls, yuck, This an old Graalian problem, but the word is Tailor. Ehm, need a head on that mirror. On the bright side, I like that GUI. Oh, and, it looks very unprofessional to warp players past an arch when you could put a dontblock and drawoverplayer image.

Feudal Nations: I am intrigued by that wavy GUI bar. Very unique, but it looks like the background is getting stuck. Again Unlinked open door.

Futura: I like the tileset, but the NPCw's need a little work. The showimgs are flickering.

Galeon: Yay! Another Deutsche server. I'd like to see more servers in languages besides English. Also, I am liking the mouse driven menu system. To call upon my limited German vocabulary, I would say this server has the potential to be ausgezeichnet.

Gate of Chaos: One word, "Graalinians?" The levels are VERY square, but I like those little fireflies.

Gileada: I like the creation system, but the player should be hidden until you get to body design. Also, I really don't like the way they make you use arrow keys to put in your name. keycode is your friend. Nice GUI. Yay, mouse driven menu.

Graal 3000: I seem to be not allowed to leave this little pen...

Hartland: Eh, kinda bland UC screen, and the serverwarp seems like overkill.

Laysuf: Ouch, make your current weapon shower hide -weapons. Levels are interesting.

Medieval Graal: Fear the headbobbing, lol. (Soulblade: Is it me or do those look like your forest lights?)

Nolavario: It's ok, but nothing great, and lots of unlinked open doors.

Rastic: Ok everything, nothing unique.

Renewal: Ugh! default onlinestartlocal and just a serverwarp.

Sanstrata: Doesn't look anything like the original sanstra, which is ok, I guess, but why keep the name? Again close those unlinked doors.

Shifter: I am guessing the tileset is not done.

Soaketh: Yuck, single level with a ton of unlinked open doors.

Tribulation: Sure, I am biased, but I really think a spiffy UC screen is the way to go.

Twisted Empires: Isn't it possible to get Stefan or someone to upload your tileset if it is too big? I like the tents.

Waves: Um, those chairs need perspective work.

Zeliactic: Again, spiff up the UC screen, and yhou don't really need a server warp.

Zemi: Nice! I love those mouse driven menus, especially when you can move it around. Nice news system.

Zenkou: Again, the word is tailor. Also, there are those same light swirls I saw on Archaic. Public domain? Really empty overworld better to just have a small UC area.

Zion: There are those funky forest lights again. Not much to do here.

bo0ey 08-21-2003 08:03 AM

Didn't that sporkulator guy cause a lot of trouble on Sobek or something? He's staff on Graal3000 now :whatever:

konidias 08-21-2003 08:44 AM

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"Arid Haven: I know that this isn't a payerworld, but I really like this UC screen, and I wanted to mention that I have the top score on it muahahaha."

:)

Deek2 08-21-2003 09:49 AM

:: pokes at the servers with a stick:: Lynch!!! Lynch them all!!

Spark910 08-21-2003 12:46 PM

Re: Payerworld First Impressions
 
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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
Area 51: This applies to all servers, but this one I saw it first. Do not use the provided onlinestartlocal, yuck.

Atleast thats a good sign, sort of, that it isnt their work, and their work may be good. When they make their own OSL and that sucks, it doesnt make you happy with joy about what might come.

Androk 08-21-2003 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Deek2
:: pokes at the servers with a stick:: Lynch!!! Lynch them all!!
Observe as NPC-Server eats this unsuspecting victom!

Snakeandy7 08-21-2003 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by bo0ey
Didn't that sporkulator guy cause a lot of trouble on Sobek or something? He's staff on Graal3000 now :whatever:
He is pathetic and should be globally banned.
D/Cing Wan on Rudora and saying he sniff's glue, then he goes and get's globalls in.
That's how that haze graal,Railin, and him all 3 should be banned.
There so annoying on aim :p

davidpsy 08-21-2003 07:49 PM

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Something about those Sanstrata levels scream "Delteria!":(
Those are the ogrinal newsan levels made by prozac and I think Darkvillin did some. I am working on the tileset with my graphic cheif Alarid Blue moon, it will be much better when everythings done ;) I cant reveal my plans yet so just hold on. This is the new body.

superb 08-21-2003 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy


Those are the ogrinal newsan levels made by prozac and I think Darkvillin did some. I am working on the tileset with my graphic cheif Alarid Blue moon, it will be much better when everythings done ;) I cant reveal my plans yet so just hold on. This is the new body.

Looks like a transformer..LOL Nice.

syltburk 08-21-2003 08:49 PM

eh dont judge UC servers.

Spark910 08-21-2003 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by superb


Looks like a transformer..LOL Nice.

How many times has he posted that.

superb 08-21-2003 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910


How many times has he posted that.

Dunno. First time I've seen it.

davidpsy 08-21-2003 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910


How many times has he posted that.

Umm about twice they were asking about sans so I wanted to tell them I had plans other then the levels that are currently up. I havent posted about sans in any other threads. recienty Ive been trying not to but hey he said they looked like deltrias so I needed to show that I'm working on something other then that.

GoZelda 08-22-2003 01:15 PM

I can't wait for Archaic, SA, and Trib to be on...
And maybe even Sans =o

Aknts 08-23-2003 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy


Umm about twice

bull****.. heh atleast 5 times

Kronan 08-23-2003 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by bo0ey
Didn't that sporkulator guy cause a lot of trouble on Sobek or something? He's staff on Graal3000 now :whatever:
No sp0rk did not cause trouble, he was wrongfully accused, I am very good friends with sp0rk, and he has no idea how to hack. And yes he is staff on Graal 3000 and he will remain staff, nobody from graalonline is going to dare to come onto my server and remove one of my staff. And to say sp0rk hacked Sobek you have very low intelligence. This must of happend within Sobek, they probably have brainless idiots for staff.

Androk 08-23-2003 07:23 AM

Judging UC Servers is wrong.

I mean I don't have time to make a decent UC Screen because I am always either script/pixelating/tiling and I don't have even an hour of solid time to spare for such petty matter as UC Screen. Thus I proove my point and end up the victor! Now watch as I stride out of this room, while rotating my cloak in an angry manner.

TribulationStaff 08-23-2003 07:32 AM

I said this wasn't a flame thread. This is just what my first impressions of the payerworlds were. If players come on and see blah, no matter how good the stuff you are working on may be, you are going to lose their interest.

First impressions are half the battle in any business.

As for cloaks, none defeat my corduroy patchwork cloak. Muahahaha

Luigi1 08-23-2003 08:01 AM

Donald Shimweiagnaewuigawioeg awegawehia: Stop blantantly promoting Sanstrata in every single one of your posts! >:O

Yes, do not judge UC servers.

Because they are just that: UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

Archaic was very nice before they made it staff only, though... :(

Python523 08-23-2003 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy


Those are the ogrinal newsan levels made by prozac and I think Darkvillin did some. I am working on the tileset with my graphic cheif Alarid Blue moon, it will be much better when everythings done ;) I cant reveal my plans yet so just hold on. This is the new body.

it looks like the person is struggling to walk

sp0rkulat0r 08-23-2003 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Snakeandy7

He is pathetic and should be globally banned.
D/Cing Wan on Rudora and saying he sniff's glue, then he goes and get's globalls in.
That's how that haze graal,Railin, and him all 3 should be banned.
There so annoying on aim :p

Okay, Snakeandy, I'm a nice guy. But Wan was acting weird that day, making fun of my mom dying etc. So I disconnected him. And then he went to go get the globals.
So Angel and Thym log on and ask me questions and they said the logs didnt look like Wan.
So, I got of Graal and stuff, turned off my computer and went to Redding for the weekend. ( They have waterslides there :D ) And when I get back I can't log on to 1. Laysuf 2. Rudora 3. Sobek wasn't a listed playerworld. And I was banned on most servers. So people keep coming up to me and calling me a "hacker".
I talked to JellyFish about mah account and he told me my password, so that was pretty creepy.
So thanks all of you for screwing up my online reputation and life :\

bo0ey 08-23-2003 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Kronan


And to say sp0rk hacked Sobek you have very low intelligence. This must of happend within Sobek, they probably have brainless idiots for staff.

I'm not saying you have low intelligence or anything, but I didn't say he hacked Sobek... you did.. :D

Kaimetsu 08-23-2003 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by sp0rkulat0r

So thanks all of you for screwing up my online reputation and life :\

I think you're fully capable of screwing up your reputation for yourself. I seem to remember a rather crude AIM conversation just a few weeks ago.

Snakeandy7 08-23-2003 10:48 AM

Re: Payerworld First Impressions
 
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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
Note: Worlds which do not allow login at all not listed. These are not flames, these are constructive critiques.
Faldur: Stationary waterfalls, yuck, This an old Graalian problem, but the word is Tailor. Ehm, need a head on that mirror. On the bright side, I like that GUI. Oh, and, it looks very unprofessional to warp players past an arch when you could put a dontblock and drawoverplayer image..

Thank Thrash for that. He also forgot to link it outside :o
The water fall's are being re-made.
Tailor, old andor style, look's like you never played..

Androk 08-23-2003 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
As for cloaks, none defeat my corduroy patchwork cloak. Muahahaha
Or so you would think! My Crimson Red cloak attached to a shiny metal shoulder pad (Only 1 shoulder has it) is very well seen against the grey outfit of sleeveless shirt and baggy pants with bag looking curs at the bottom. This outfit also provides alot of place for movement as well as a sword, a shield and a pony. I kinda lost my mind at the point of shield :(

Either way if a person judges a PW by it's UC Screen, do you really want that player? It's like judging a book by it's cover.

davidpsy 08-23-2003 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by Luigi1
Donald Shimweiagnaewuigawioeg awegawehia: Stop blantantly promoting Sanstrata in every single one of your posts! >:O

Ok screw it I wont post about Sanstrata any more even when someones saying I stole levels or level style from another server which is entirely unture. Happy?

TribulationStaff 08-23-2003 07:52 PM

Let me give you an example. In a mall, two new stores, which just happen to sell the same things, start construction the same day. The first lets the construction workers put up whatever they want on the shell that hides construction (band posters, picture calendars, etc). The second puts posters promoting their store, as well as posters depicting some of their products on theirs. Which store will seem more professional? Which store is going to be more anticipated?

Snakeandy7 08-23-2003 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by sp0rkulat0r

Okay, Snakeandy, I'm a nice guy. But Wan was acting weird that day, making fun of my mom dying etc. So I disconnected him. And then he went to go get the globals.
So Angel and Thym log on and ask me questions and they said the logs didnt look like Wan.
So thanks all of you for screwing up my online reputation and life :\

Hrmm you deserved it
Saying wan's sniff glue?
Saying you can treat him like **** because he is no longer manager?
Hrmm hah you deserve everything you get.
You lied to angel saying wan deleated stuff on rudora, so stop bull****ting:\

Kaimetsu 08-23-2003 09:13 PM

The quality of the UC screen is related to the skill/dedication of the workers. If there are obvious tile errors, or bad scripts, then it reflects poorly on the staff. It's perfectly reasonable to judge the playerworld by it, as long as you use reasonable criteria.

Snakeandy7 08-24-2003 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
The quality of the UC screen is related to the skill/dedication of the workers. If there are obvious tile errors, or bad scripts, then it reflects poorly on the staff. It's perfectly reasonable to judge the playerworld by it, as long as you use reasonable criteria.
I guess your right, it's like simon cowell producing a crap band what he tought was good..

ETD 08-24-2003 07:38 PM

Re: Payerworld First Impressions
 
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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
Zeliactic: Again, spiff up the UC screen, and yhou don't really need a server warp.
you might want to look again
;)
the owner of that server has pretty much given it to me, and we are working on turning Zeliatic into my server (End of Ages) that UC screen is no longer there, and has been replaced with a start level, which mini-games, and soon maybe a few events
=)
i am not sure if we should just finnish the overworld, and get all that ready (could take up to a month) or make a small overworld filled with tons of events, and activities... so that can keep people entertained while we finnish the whole overworld (might take 2 weeks to make the entertainment area, then another month to finnish the OW)

anyone have any ideas?

bo0ey 08-25-2003 08:55 PM

Re: Re: Payerworld First Impressions
 
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Originally posted by ETD

you might want to look again
;)
the owner of that server has pretty much given it to me, and we are working on turning Zeliatic into my server (End of Ages) that UC screen is no longer there, and has been replaced with a start level, which mini-games, and soon maybe a few events
=)
i am not sure if we should just finnish the overworld, and get all that ready (could take up to a month) or make a small overworld filled with tons of events, and activities... so that can keep people entertained while we finnish the whole overworld (might take 2 weeks to make the entertainment area, then another month to finnish the OW)

anyone have any ideas?

Don't release the overworld yet. Make your storylines, plots, settings, characters, etc.. When you have a nice bunch of stuff, you make the overworld, get it done, and release.. :)

GoZelda 08-25-2003 09:49 PM

b0ey is right... My first playerworld project, Rising Empires, died, because i didn't had any organization and started on levels immediatly x-x me was stupid those days.

Well, it is wrong to rate on UC screens.

But, if you don't show anything good, no one will be curious. Look at SA:
it is very succesful because of the few screenshots we've seen =x

Shaun 08-26-2003 12:56 AM

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Well this is a dumb reason for banning somebody:

bo0ey 08-26-2003 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun
Well this is a dumb reason for banning somebody:
They'll get what they deserve when they have a steady 0 players when completed. And in my opinion, the name Laysuf swings farther than Shaun..

ETD 08-26-2003 03:08 AM

Re: Re: Re: Payerworld First Impressions
 
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Originally posted by bo0ey

Don't release the overworld yet. Make your storylines, plots, settings, characters, etc.. When you have a nice bunch of stuff, you make the overworld, get it done, and release.. :)

i ment a mini-overworld of like 20 levels... just with a few events, and games, and other activities, to keep players entertained while we work
=x

but i think we're just going to try to get everything 100% done before opening anything other than the games in the start location to the public.


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