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GoZelda 08-14-2003 06:43 PM

Are the gods unbalanced?
 
Well, read the title. Do you think they are unbalanced?
Originally posted by unixmad
To prevent everyone from chosing Leucetious again

Yes, now everyone's Govannon or Ogma =\

MasterNuke 08-14-2003 10:35 PM

Well... they sort of are balanced... but a few aren't because people can't get the prayers because their grace is too low... people of Diancecht don't have much to kill with their denied wounding and there is no strong undead to destroy for experience... Brigid is futile unless you have summon avatar and level 10 wisdom upon worshipping her...
On the other hand here...
Leucetious's forked lightning lags and hurts like hell, but only hurts because we're sitting like a duck in the lightning waiting for the lag to pass... Balor's flaming aura keeps getting complaints about it (even though it's just fine)... Govannon blesses high for those bless->sell freaks, which is just fine with me(i do not care), and Bile is just there... and Aengus is fine except for the Defense prayer I didn't get yet for some odd reason...

graaliholic 08-15-2003 06:14 PM

Just wait until people start hiting the higher levels. Brigid's spells and relics are so much better than any other gods, just look at this.

Gloves of the Sun +1 (you get it at +1)
AC: 1
Weight: 0.1 kg
Dexterity +2, damage +2
Attacks: physical, fire (adds fire to your attack)

GoZelda 08-15-2003 06:51 PM

Yes, if i would've got a sustenance ammy, i would've changed to brigid by now. I don't use cause wounds so much anyway. It's one of the reasons i didn't Improve my weapons.

ChaosGodSet 08-17-2003 04:36 AM

As of this point I'm the one closest to getting Brigid's relics. ^-^
I thinkt he gods are balanced.. mostly..... the only thing I dont like is the grace system
50: low
150: Medium
300: high.
i mean. how is anyone supposed to get to 150 wisdom.

DragonX 08-17-2003 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosGodSet
As of this point I'm the one closest to getting Brigid's relics. ^-^
I thinkt he gods are balanced.. mostly..... the only thing I dont like is the grace system
50: low
150: Medium
300: high.
i mean. how is anyone supposed to get to 150 wisdom.

I get 136 grace if I use Forest Shield (that has Pow +1) and 2 Blood Rings (Pow +3 Wis +2 each). I have 20 wis and 20 pow naturally.

ChaosGodSet 08-17-2003 05:11 AM

not everyone has blood rings

DragonX 08-17-2003 05:19 AM

Then try buying a ring of the Prelate.
Wis +2 Cha +1 Pow +1 Attuned: Abjuration and Turning

That might be the closest thing you can get to a Blood Ring.

--Chris-- 08-18-2003 09:47 PM

I want Ogma to be immune to poison the way Bile is immune diseases and dianceht is immune fear/blind

zell12 08-19-2003 12:42 AM

If I told you all how to do it then everyone would know how and no one be happy to play because they would just get ultra strong using their gods strongest items and they would quit.

So anyone else that knows how please keep it to yourself...

--Chris-- 08-19-2003 01:11 AM

It's called improvement potions

GoZelda 08-19-2003 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by --Chris--
I want Ogma to be immune to poison the way Bile is immune diseases and dianceht is immune fear/blind
Then make Leucetious immune to electricity, Govannon to Fire, and Balor immune to Magic v.v

MKSLAYER 08-19-2003 04:46 PM

yeah balor was good but now he really sucks because he doesnt get any relics so basically all he has are: useless enchantments (slay angel :\ ), no relics, high enchantment rate, the only useful thing he has are spells...

[edit]of course this just might be why Angel doesnt worship balor because of the slay Angel thing XD...[/edit]

GoZelda 08-19-2003 07:57 PM

I also don't understand why Balor doesn't has any fire resistance... He is a fire god after all. And the magic immunity also doesn't makes any sense.

--Chris-- 08-20-2003 07:30 AM

Balor and Govannon should exhange resistances.

GoZelda, the difference between being immune to disease/poison/fear/blind and damage types is well...self explanatory. Damage type resist does well...protect from damage which is hell of alot more advantageous than being immune to a temporary, small stat drop so next time you quote me don't let your sarcasm slap you right back in the face :(

Ziro_Vitrudestec 08-20-2003 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosGodSet

i mean. how is anyone supposed to get to 150 wisdom.

Maybe as a priest, spend money on prepping weapons to have Improve Wisdom Bonuses like others spend to have IWD's...? Just a thought...

GoZelda 08-20-2003 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by --Chris--
oogah boogah
I have to say that being immune to poison is quite a resistance:
no poison weapons work;
no glok lord can hurt you really hard;
no temporary stat loss from poison

What about Sarcasm slapping back?

DenoriZakarum 08-20-2003 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoZelda

I have to say that being immune to poison is quite a resistance:
no poison weapons work;
no glok lord can hurt you really hard;
no temporary stat loss from poison

What about Sarcasm slapping back?

Poison weapons DO work they DO decrease ac, wc, dex, con,AND strength, and alot of people dont like me because i use my ogma +6 blood sabre in duels. GLok lords poison is so powerful when i buff with it alone i can raise my hp by 85.

GoZelda 08-20-2003 11:35 PM

I ment that with 100% poison resistance, no poison weapons work.

Ziro_Vitrudestec 08-21-2003 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoZelda
I ment that with 100% poison resistance, no poison weapons work.
Are you sure? I thought there'd be some chance to it working...like sometimes it works to less than 100%...

Anyhow, you do have a point, that is a great resistance because I know my opinion (from what I know) is that a weapon blessed to ogma then IWD'ed is the best PKing weapon you can have. At least it's my favorite.

--Chris-- 08-21-2003 05:29 AM

God...your lack of knowledge in the game combined with your ignorants amuses me.

Ogma's weapons aren't good for pking at all, poison damage is weak and most weapons only have the attack type:physical which everyone resist by alot.

Being immune to poison is nothing compared to being immune to diseases and blind. Ogma's current +30 is useless, test it yourself and umm...it isn't worth the -20 (or is it 30?) magic resist and why is defining what poison does count as one of your poor excuses for a reason? "no temporary stat loss from poison"

graaliholic 08-21-2003 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by --Chris--
God...your lack of knowledge in the game combined with your ignorants amuses me.

Ogma's weapons aren't good for pking at all, poison damage is weak and most weapons only have the attack type:physical which everyone resist by alot.

Being immune to poison is nothing compared to being immune to diseases and blind. Ogma's current +30 is useless, test it yourself and umm...it isn't worth the -20 (or is it 30?) magic resist and why is defining what poison does count as one of your poor excuses for a reason? "no temporary stat loss from poison"

A dagger of ogma +6 though would make a good opening weapon, poison them, then when they're slowed slightly beat them with damage :P

GoZelda 08-21-2003 01:25 PM

Yes, beat them with an Ogma weapon. Now they lose about 2 on every stat, and lose like 1 speed, and they can't run away from you; imagine what you can do with that:
as a mage, cast dozens of spell without them hitting you so it fails;
as a warrior/barbarian, totally 0wn 'em, they can't run away and are to slow to hit you back.

graaliholic 08-21-2003 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoZelda
Yes, beat them with an Ogma weapon. Now they lose about 2 on every stat, and lose like 1 speed, and they can't run away from you; imagine what you can do with that:
as a mage, cast dozens of spell without them hitting you so it fails;
as a warrior/barbarian, totally 0wn 'em, they can't run away and are to slow to hit you back.

If you really want to take them down, you could always use ogma, then angie (for slow) and dian (blindness will give you the upper hand) and then beat then with a govannon weapon, since all damage will get thru because nobody has resistance to weaponmagic. if you don't think so, type /resistances and see for yourself. There's also godpower (cause wounds) and chaos (create pool of chaos).


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