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Mykel 07-21-2003 09:25 AM

PWA Situation?
 
What is the PWA Situation? I asked Aftershock....

Quote:

MykelDrakken: heya
MykelDrakken: wow
aftershock766: hey
MykelDrakken: on aim
MykelDrakken: lol
aftershock766: yes, it's a miracle :O
MykelDrakken: u still a member of the PWA?
MykelDrakken: lol, yea
aftershock766: well, tecnically maybe, but I told spark he leads it

HoudiniMan 07-21-2003 09:49 AM

Asked him about that:
aftershock766: I think I should clarify. I'm technically still part f pwa, and technically, I still "lead", but spark has really taken charge of the situation

tlf288 07-21-2003 02:01 PM

So technically aftershock is still on the PWA, but realistically he isn't?

protagonist 07-21-2003 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by tlf288
So technically aftershock is still on the PWA, but realistically he isn't?
Not in practice, anyway.

Spark910 07-21-2003 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan
Asked him about that:
aftershock766: I think I should clarify. I'm technically still part f pwa, and technically, I still "lead", but spark has really taken charge of the situation

I will clarify too. It sounds bad on my part that, I havent taken over, I was allowed to take over. I didnt force AS out. I would rarther AS still on. And what time was this, i've been waiting for 3 weeks to speak to him =(

And when you post time, put what timezone you are in too.

Aftershock ICQ!!!

MadWolf 07-21-2003 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910


I will clarify too. It sounds bad on my part that, I havent taken over, I was allowed to take over. I didnt force AS out. I would rarther AS still on. And what time was this, i've been waiting for 3 weeks to speak to him =(

And when you post time, put what timezone you are in too.

Aftershock ICQ!!!

Who do you guys report to know that Nem is gone? :confused:

ETD 07-21-2003 06:17 PM

the PWA really needs to get organized, and start getting new members that won't quit after a few weeks
=x

Neonight 07-21-2003 07:07 PM

What's the point of a PW team now? All you have to do is pay $100 and your server is up. No more passing or failing.

Eric_1337 07-21-2003 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by Neonight
What's the point of a PW team now? All you have to do is pay $100 and your server is up. No more passing or failing.
They still have to go server to server looking for anything illigal, and I think you can still get passed through them if you are short on cash I suppose.

Androk 07-21-2003 07:24 PM

In order to go from group 3 to group 2 you have to have good content, for which PWA tests the PWs =)

Also PWA checks for any copy writed material and what not on PWs.

tlf288 07-21-2003 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Androk
In order to go from group 3 to group 2 you have to have good content, for which PWA tests the PWs =)

Also PWA checks for any copy writed material and what not on PWs.

I have no ideas how they are going to do both with two people :( .

Androk 07-21-2003 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by tlf288


I have no ideas how they are going to do both with two people :( .

If they need to they'll hire more x.X Hiring for PWA is hard though, because people ahve to be trusted and what not by Cyberjeurs.

Spark910 07-21-2003 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by Androk


If they need to they'll hire more x.X Hiring for PWA is hard though, because people ahve to be trusted and what not by Cyberjeurs.

I would if I could hire, but I cant. As im only PWA, and a GM would normally hire, like Nem did, but we have none.

And Aftershock has been here for years, and about 3months since he has been re-hired.
And Kish was basically a joke, so I wouldnt count her.

Neonight 07-21-2003 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337


They still have to go server to server looking for anything illigal, and I think you can still get passed through them if you are short on cash I suppose.

There's enough griping on the forums of what is illegal and what is stolen. I still don't think there's any need for a PW team anymore.

Spark910 07-21-2003 08:48 PM

Im waiting on Unix to contact me, as you will be able to get a review for a benefit I think, or so I thought he said on Engima.

And its not just illegal material, theres loads of shut off things too.

tlf288 07-21-2003 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Neonight


There's enough griping on the forums of what is illegal and what is stolen. I still don't think there's any need for a PW team anymore.

I hope you're being sarcastic :( .

Neonight 07-21-2003 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by tlf288


I hope you're being sarcastic :( .

Nope. There's 50 threads per illegal thing on any given server. I'm not being sarcastic in the least.

Spark910 07-21-2003 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by Neonight


Nope. There's 50 threads per illegal thing on any given server. I'm not being sarcastic in the least.

Well I'd support you if thats all we did, and that was anywhere near 50% of the ''illegal'' things we actually had.


aftershock766: As it stands, Spark, Houdini and I are still on the team. But, because of my poor attendance and inactivity, I decided to let Spark 'take charge' of the situation. I've been wanting to leave the position even before Nemesis left, but ever since he did it's been making that a bit more difficult. Before I go, I want some questions answered. Who will be the new GM? Where did Stefan run off to? Where is Unixmad? (i've tried e-mailing him many times and no response). How does the playerworld paying incorporate the PWA? Sure, Unixmad says that we get to determine who pays and who doesn't, but it's still theoretical and a fairly loose statement seen as though we/he has a hard time contacting us/him.With my access to debug, I've been looking for Stefan for a long time but he doesn't seem to be around. I don't just want to jump off and leave right away, I'd like to know what really is the future of the PWA. But then again, it isn't fair that everything is being held up by me, hence that is why houdini and spark are working in autonomy from me.

Lyndzey 07-21-2003 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910

aftershock766: As it stands, Spark, Houdini and I are still on the team. But, because of my poor attendance and inactivity, I decided to let Spark 'take charge' of the situation. I've been wanting to leave the position even before Nemesis left, but ever since he did it's been making that a bit more difficult. Before I go, I want some questions answered. Who will be the new GM? Where did Stefan run off to? Where is Unixmad? (i've tried e-mailing him many times and no response). How does the playerworld paying incorporate the PWA? Sure, Unixmad says that we get to determine who pays and who doesn't, but it's still theoretical and a fairly loose statement seen as though we/he has a hard time contacting us/him.With my access to debug, I've been looking for Stefan for a long time but he doesn't seem to be around. I don't just want to jump off and leave right away, I'd like to know what really is the future of the PWA. But then again, it isn't fair that everything is being held up by me, hence that is why houdini and spark are working in autonomy from me.

There will most likely not be a new GM. Nemesis did not do much anyway...

Stefan is still around, just working hard on other Graal clients.

Unixmad has been on vacation. He usually only answers emails if it has something to do with a billing problem. Best way of contact is ICQ.

What situation did you let Spark 'take charge' of? The general PW situation? Talk to me on AIM...LyndzeyAngelis

Torankusu 07-21-2003 10:23 PM

i knew this would happen.

:P

HoudiniMan 07-21-2003 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neonight


There's enough griping on the forums of what is illegal and what is stolen. I still don't think there's any need for a PW team anymore.

If there was no PW team, who exactly would take care of the illegal things? Stefan/Unix??... :|

Golbez 07-22-2003 05:46 AM

From what I hear Lyndzey is helping out big time with leading them or tring to help as much as she can but yet she is only Accounts Admin she cant do much. Yes it needs to be organized more, HM goes on servers and tells them he would take it down himself if someone d/ced him but from what I heard from Angel Spark and Lyndzey all said there is no way to take down a bought player world.

190 07-22-2003 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by ETD
the PWA really needs to get organized, and start getting new members that won't quit after a few weeks
=x

I believe in spark, i think he can do a good job, and i personally don't think he would quit in a few weeks. He does his job well, and knows how to handle problems on other servers without threatening to remove RC's like 'someone' in the PWA does. I belive in Spark :D.... Good Luck too i guess.


-Eagle

Golbez 07-22-2003 06:31 AM

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Originally posted by 190


I believe in spark, i think he can do a good job, and i personally don't think he would quit in a few weeks. He does his job well, and knows how to handle problems on other servers without threatening to remove RC's like 'someone' in the PWA does. I belive in Spark :D.... Good Luck too i guess.


-Eagle

Spark is also mutrue and isnt to into the game. He works hard and he isnt stupid. I would put him in charge if it was up to me :o

ETD 07-22-2003 06:36 AM

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Originally posted by 190

I believe in spark, i think he can do a good job, and i personally don't think he would quit in a few weeks.

yea, i was more talking about angel, and kish
=x
<3 to both of them... but they still did quit kinda fast...

i am just saying that they need a whole TEAM, and not 2 or so people trying to do all the work of a team... they need like 5 or 6 members i think, to do their job best... i mean, between maybe like 10 populat servers, that's still 2 servers per PWA member for them to watch after...

190 07-22-2003 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ETD

yea, i was more talking about angel, and kish
=x
<3 to both of them... but they still did quit kinda fast...

i am just saying that they need a whole TEAM, and not 2 or so people trying to do all the work of a team... they need like 5 or 6 members i think, to do their job best... i mean, between maybe like 10 populat servers, that's still 2 servers per PWA member for them to watch after...

Yeah, i see what you mean. But its not everyone, hehe.

-Eagle

Spark910 07-22-2003 12:43 PM

I want to see how this grouping with payments is going to work, it may help whoever think about who to hire.

HoudiniMan 07-23-2003 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by Spark910
I want to see how this grouping with payments is going to work, it may help whoever think about who to hire.
I talked to Stefan about it today and he wants to set up a meeting of some sort, i don't know over what medium though.

Geno 07-23-2003 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337


They still have to go server to server looking for anything illigal

and if they find it what can they do?
ask you nicley to give them rights so they can shut you down? or maybe the could report you to the Game Master which does not exist and get you shut down!
the onlything PWA can do is report you to stefan and unixmad, and they have the same chance of getting ahold of stefan/unixmad as any normal player does. PWA is dead.

Spark910 07-23-2003 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan


I talked to Stefan about it today and he wants to set up a meeting of some sort, i don't know over what medium though.

Well it would help if he would get some sort of IM.


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