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prozac424242 07-12-2003 06:29 AM

npcserver will not stay off
 
I bought a playerworld today and so far so good until this ....

I go in the server1 web interface, with the right port, and with my login for playerworld16, which I own.

I turn off the npcserver, since I do not want to use it at this time.
It turns off.

For the gserver to realise that is it off. I need to stop the gserver
and start it again. Also tried restart button.

I want the npcserver to stay off until I tell it to turn on.

The gserver running by itself is all that I want while I do my development work.

Please fix so that npcserver stays off until told to stay on by the user, thanks.

Prozac

Tseng 07-12-2003 06:32 AM

Eww. Why would you want to develop without an NPC Server?

Thought 07-12-2003 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tseng
Eww. Why would you want to develop without an NPC Server?
Exactly.

prozac424242 07-12-2003 07:05 AM

becasue, I admit that I dont know how t use an npcserver.

Is there a file somewhere that has the most essential basic
commands for npcservers?

i learned in 1.26 on up ... the classic style.
With that I can make things work.

If someone would show me a document with how
to use the npcserver, im sure i could figure out how
to make stuff work this "new" npcserver way.

Kaimetsu 07-12-2003 07:34 AM

Don't plan on making a PW without an NPC Server. That kind of scripting is probably gonna be removed from the engine relatively soon.

Thought 07-12-2003 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Don't plan on making a PW without an NPC Server. That kind of scripting is probably gonna be removed from the engine relatively soon.
A lot of it already has been.

adam 07-12-2003 08:30 AM

Practice, Practice, Practice.

Takes some getting used to, but you will eventually get the hang of it.

Kaimetsu 07-12-2003 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thought

A lot of it already has been.

Then it should be undone. I doubt that a non-NPC-Server PW would even be accepted nowadays.

Questa 07-12-2003 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adam
Practice, Practice, Practice.

Takes some getting used to, but you will eventually get the hang of it.

How does the player get used to it if they can't test out scripts without being staff or paying for an NPC server? There should be a test server or something that only works with LAN so people can try out things with at least two clients...

prozac424242 07-12-2003 02:21 PM

in computer programming, when you create a languague and write a parser, one of the rules thats good to keep is backwards compatability as you roll out new versions.

Still, I remember now, hearing some of the reasons why its better to have an npcserver (npcs that can walk between levels, control of timeouts instead of laggy server strings, addweaon instead of toweapons to make updataes of npcs less easy to hack).

So, I ask again, can someone tell me where i can find a document that explains how to use an npcserver, that I can start figuring out how to implement it?

Kaimetsu 07-12-2003 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by prozac424242
in computer programming, when you create a languague and write a parser, one of the rules thats good to keep is backwards compatability as you roll out new versions.
Stefan has put a lot of effort towards maintaining backwards-compatibility, but it's just not possible when introducing a serverside element. You'll understand if you learn how to use it.

adam 07-12-2003 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Questa

How does the player get used to it if they can't test out scripts without being staff or paying for an NPC server? There should be a test server or something that only works with LAN so people can try out things with at least two clients...

Well, they cant'.

I think at least one person bought a PW with the intention of testing stuff with/for people. I could be wrong.

tlf288 07-12-2003 04:57 PM

http://noxeo.com/graal/docs/

It is ussally a good idea to put these on the FTP for your staff.

osrs 07-12-2003 08:08 PM

Hire a scripter and solve your problem.

tlf288 07-12-2003 08:34 PM

Scripters seems to be the root of problems :\ .

Questa 07-12-2003 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tlf288
http://noxeo.com/graal/docs/

It is ussally a good idea to put these on the FTP for your staff.

And maybe try to word wrap it for people who find horizontal scrolling annoying.:whatever:

tlf288 07-12-2003 10:15 PM

I take time to do something and all you do is complain :( . Are you too lazy to press <enter> a couple times?

prozac424242 07-13-2003 12:02 AM

thanks for the link, but that address does not work for me.
looks like noxeo.com is down.

even a list of npcserver commands and a brief desciption
of what the mean would be helpful.
I know what I want to "say" but just am not familiar with the language. basically need a translation cross refrence.

tlf288 07-13-2003 12:14 AM

1 Attachment(s)
This is the main npc server doc. You will have to just wait till noxeo.com works for you to get the other ones.

prozac424242 07-13-2003 05:28 AM

Finally, someone posts the one file that I asked for three times..

Thank you, I see already that this is helpful.
You can close this thread now.

Python523 07-15-2003 05:25 PM

if your gserver is configured to have an npc server, you CANT develope with it down, none of the NPCs will show, including clientside ones

prozac424242 07-16-2003 12:38 AM

you know, its the stangest thing ... before i posted this thread
at its beginning, I had been able to have the npcserver off, restarted the gserver by itself, and my npcs worked fine, as they did offline. Then, when the npcserver kicked back in (turned itself on, probabaly a crontab command timeout check on the unix side is running), then yes, the npcs didnt show or work when the npcserver turned on.

Now, thanks to the document and now working links refrenced in this thread, I am learning how to make use of the npcserver commands, and I like it!

thanks again to all who helped

Thought 07-16-2003 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by prozac424242
and I like it!
Good, NPC Server benefits you in the long run.


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