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thelostviking 07-06-2003 10:27 PM

what needs to be done:
 
Of course, stefan and the other debug people are doing a great work and always add new stuff, but i think, instead of adding adding adding, stuff should be fixed, or finished.
For example:
-Some weaponenchant of some gods dont work (for example aengus)
-Some resistances are not really needed, remove them or make them necassary
(-Reset because of Event Weapons and stuff which isnt produceable anymore (like flaming ice dagger)-i dont want that by myself)
-! FIXING ALCHEMY !

well thats all I can think off, but maybe some other people can add stuff.

DragonX 07-06-2003 11:27 PM

Re: what needs to be done:
 
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Originally posted by thelostviking
(-Reset because of Event Weapons and stuff which isnt produceable anymore (like flaming ice dagger)-i dont want that by myself)

Flaming Ice Dagger isn't an event weapon. It was crafatable in a Hotaru shop which was replaced by the perfume shop. All Stefan has to do it make another building somewhere and put flaming ice daggers in it, problem solved. Why would he need to erase all the event weapons, that is stupid. I worked hard to get my stuff, just to have it erased. Life isn't fair, if you weren't here at the time the event was held, oh well. I missed a month of GK and missed a couple of events, I just sucked it up and played on. I see people playing nowadays and they get to level 16 and up fine, they don't need event things to own everyone.

SmokeyX 07-06-2003 11:43 PM

First shouldn't this be in the suggestion forums?

2nd..everybody has different thoughts


some of us think that bugs should be fixed right..so stefan does it but then others complain about how nothing new is being added...

thelostviking 07-07-2003 12:38 AM

Quote:

Flaming Ice Dagger isn't an event weapon. It was crafatable in a Hotaru shop which was replaced by the perfume shop. All Stefan has to do it make another building somewhere and put flaming ice daggers in it, problem solved.
Yup but than he should do it =//!

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Why would he need to erase all the event weapons, that is stupid. I worked hard to get my stuff, just to have it erased. Life isn't fair, if you weren't here at the time the event was held, oh well. I missed a month of GK and missed a couple of events, I just sucked it up and played on. I see people playing nowadays and they get to level 16 and up fine, they don't need event things to own everyone.
Most (or all) event items werent even supposed to be given out.
And it is a status symbol, so that i think that they should be given out again or they should be taken away.


Quote:

some of us think that bugs should be fixed right..so stefan does it but then others complain about how nothing new is being added...
I think that they should make both, but they should fix some stuff right now because kingdoms is nearly totally messed up.

Butz 07-07-2003 07:16 AM

So by that logic, if your neighbor has a classic car in excellent condition, it should be taken away, because it's a status symbol and you can't get them anymore.

wonderboysp2p 07-07-2003 09:13 AM

i do think that giving out event items anymore is horribly lame
also many items were giving out from staff corruption X_X

Satrek2000 07-08-2003 09:59 AM

I agree with DX that a reset would just suck, to put it that way. The olny "event item" I own is a black wizard hat, still I made it to lv20. I won a diamond force once but sold it for 5k. Since then, I worked to get where I am now (all the Horns in Dustari did), and I'd hate the server being reset just because some just can't.

ZeroFXSM 07-08-2003 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by Butz
So by that logic, if your neighbor has a classic car in excellent condition, it should be taken away, because it's a status symbol and you can't get them anymore.

MasterNuke 07-08-2003 09:37 PM

Re: what needs to be done:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by thelostviking
(for example aengus)
Aengus's weapon enchants DO work...

graaliholic 07-10-2003 07:34 AM

Re: Re: what needs to be done:
 
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Originally posted by MasterNuke


Aengus's weapon enchants DO work...


Not really, slow hardly slows anyone (and not monsters at all) and all confusion does (that i've seen) is make you fail spellbooks if you're stupid enough to read one while confused.

Satrek2000 07-10-2003 11:28 AM

Then again, while using a weapon of bile, and using it for quite a few wolves and rexes, I've seen a fear attack only once... Maybe it's the same with aengus, the monsters die before all the attacktypes can unleash...

Amoun 07-11-2003 04:18 PM

Re: Re: what needs to be done:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DragonX


Flaming Ice Dagger isn't an event weapon. It was crafatable in a Hotaru shop which was replaced by the perfume shop. All Stefan has to do it make another building somewhere and put flaming ice daggers in it, problem solved. Why would he need to erase all the event weapons, that is stupid. I worked hard to get my stuff, just to have it erased. Life isn't fair, if you weren't here at the time the event was held, oh well. I missed a month of GK and missed a couple of events, I just sucked it up and played on. I see people playing nowadays and they get to level 16 and up fine, they don't need event things to own everyone.

well that isn't the only problem DragonX and tell me wrong otherwise but as i recall Broad Swords use to have more of a value then 7.5k -_- as well as jade blade, apparently either people seem broad sword and event item i worked hard for as well is of no value or, my theory, someone is duplicating the items in some form or manor tho i have no accusations of who, because lately i see ALOT of people with them, and people tell me im crazy when i ask for 75k for it, they say theyll give me 2k......and i have been offred 75k in the past by SEVERAL people so an deletiong of either some or all event items would be nice due to the fact there are several item hackers out their reducing the value of event items that some (such as broad sword) are becoming very common and those who worked hard for theirs (like me) have gotten bad return for its original value. I understand your feelings DragonX but either someone needs to find out whos doing it because im sure someone is or certain or all event items should be deleted :/ *edit* just read some replies and, the other solution which i really do prefer, is re-holding events, because i really want phoenix gear and not for sociality, i just like the looks of it and it makes me feel happy when playing, isn't that what games are suppose to do? :/ anyhow i would prefer it tho if events were reheld and not like Tseng did, he held a trivia event and gave oue +1 int and some other ring ._. sure better something then nothing at all but ya..... :/ And i don't need event items at all, the only event item i use is Red Wizard, and the only easter item is Egg Rod, i dont need the hats +1 magic, it really doesn't affect me much, and the eggrod is just for show, i do not need event items to help me level but things like phoenix gear is just items i would like yknow? Really in truth tho, events should be reheld, ya?

thelostviking 07-11-2003 07:49 PM

Its only a beta at all what speaks against a reset?
because you started earlier in the beta and have weapons which were not supposed to be given out?
well I hope that some people wake up and see that something like a reset is needed.

TripleE 07-11-2003 08:19 PM

Re: Re: what needs to be done:
 
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Originally posted by DragonX


Flaming Ice Dagger isn't an event weapon. It was crafatable in a Hotaru shop which was replaced by the perfume shop. All Stefan has to do it make another building somewhere and put flaming ice daggers in it, problem solved. Why would he need to erase all the event weapons, that is stupid. I worked hard to get my stuff, just to have it erased. Life isn't fair, if you weren't here at the time the event was held, oh well. I missed a month of GK and missed a couple of events, I just sucked it up and played on. I see people playing nowadays and they get to level 16 and up fine, they don't need event things to own everyone.

Well a certain past staff member who sold event weapons needs his aco**** reset,or punished someway.

Ghost Pirate 07-11-2003 09:43 PM

I believe balancing classes, weapons, and adding restrictions should be done before all else.

Amoun 07-12-2003 04:04 AM

Coming from a **** who destroys past diplomacy i believe many people would ignore your words ghost pirate :\ In any case, there is nothing to be 'balanced', the 'balancing' that you people believe to be taking places is just a result of several lazy people who don't want anyone to be better then them or have better items then them (like people who want flame dagger back and junk, i want events just because im bored :/ and perhaps snag phoenix gear but im not jealous to ask for them to be removed) The only balancing really taking place is just really people ruining others game play like this flaming aura is cheap crap, get higher resistance, and ppl lagging others with spells, just stay away from them, people wanting items to come back/be removed. Deal with the fact you don't have them, and if you want them so bad, youd try hard enough to get them. Basically there is nothing that needs to be done except in my opinion events brought back, and bug exploiters punished. Other then that there is nothing to be balanced, its all just people complaining something helps someone have fun or level or be better then them and they hate it, it isn't imbalance, just jealously, if you don't realize that, you are quiet the thick headed person i'm afraid.

Heiwaronsha 07-12-2003 09:28 AM

a lot of people have great event items because people in the past were corrupt or could not hold proper events.

yes it's fortunate for them, but for the rest of graal it is not .. i don't think it's fair that 90% of the server has to suffer ..

Amoun 07-12-2003 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by Heiwaronsha
a lot of people have great event items because people in the past were corrupt or could not hold proper events.

yes it's fortunate for them, but for the rest of graal it is not .. i don't think it's fair that 90% of the server has to suffer ..

Exactly! now you are seeing the big picture

tc_topcat 07-12-2003 05:59 PM

I dont think they should get rid or event or rare weapons....its just tough luck, you can't go around in life and say he has a t-shirt i can't buy....everyone who has them must throw them out because it is unfair.

On the event items...the inferno..how many of them was there?
I've been told a few are copys of some sort..if there are one like that how would i know?

The people who want the weapons reset are usually the ones who don't have one and can't get them....my thots, why should others loose out because of you jealousy

I worked hard to get enough stuff to trade to get my flaming ice dagger and inferno...i got my broadsword..for an old player who left

MasterNuke 07-12-2003 08:14 PM

I wouldn't care if there was a reset... :rolleyes: but reseting before fixing alot of things is stupid.

Satrek2000 07-12-2003 09:03 PM

I would care if there was a reset - that is, every Horn would. We worked hard for our stuff, the houses and so on. We don't have any event items, no random alchemy stuff, and we're feeling good playing, it's fun and by no means unfair to us. Then again, we aren't that keen on being the very best.

Amoun 07-12-2003 09:29 PM

I don't want items reset, and i can't get phoenix gear because those who have them do not wish to trade except for outrageous things like triple their worth.

DenoriZakarum 07-12-2003 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thelostviking
Its only a beta at all what speaks against a reset?
because you started earlier in the beta and have weapons which were not supposed to be given out?
well I hope that some people wake up and see that something like a reset is needed.

ok dude, from what ive been reading ur new, u come in here and expect what u whant to be done, you dont go around on other games and yell because u cant get an event item or because they deleted the item, these items help the economy. the reason u cant get em is because they are EVENT ITEMs, only given out at events which arent held anymore, if u rly whant one SAVE UP. very few werent supposed to be given out, u need to wake up out of the world that u get ur way in and step into life, life isnt fair, u cant have EVERYTHING

Amoun 07-13-2003 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by DenoriZakarum


ok dude, from what ive been reading ur new, u come in here and expect what u whant to be done, you dont go around on other games and yell because u cant get an event item or because they deleted the item, these items help the economy. the reason u cant get em is because they are EVENT ITEMs, only given out at events which arent held anymore, if u rly whant one SAVE UP. very few werent supposed to be given out, u need to wake up out of the world that u get ur way in and step into life, life isnt fair, u cant have EVERYTHING

*adds to list of sensible people/people he likes* Lets see now, i got a handful of sensible people so far, and counting. :rolleyes: And yes, life is a *****, and i gave up on trying to get phoenix gear a bit ago, because i did try, and i saved up, and they want way more then its worth, then will most likely in the end decline the deal, some people are just ignorant, and you won't be able to get some things no matter how hard you try, lifes a *****, we move on.


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