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mhermher 03-20-2003 07:37 PM

Behold, Adiarde!
 
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Hola, Guys and Girls!
Well.. yeah, i shall come to the point.. i'm making a playerworld called Adiarde.. i have worked on it a little bit, and i have a wonderfull team.

Staff Team:
Tyrial (Manager) -Me
Shorty2Dope (Manager)
Loriel (Developer)
Karsh (Developer)
PastAustin (Developer)

If you want to help out, i'm recuiting two people that can handle the graphics part.

We have a website and a domain.
www.adiarde.com
Our website isn't finished yet, but you may visit our forums at www.adiarde.com/forums/

Thank you very much for reading this.
-Tyrial

PS: Konidias, do not say i stole your tiles as you did on AIM, just because i made a bricks house don't mean i stole your. It's the same if i would say you stole SoM's menu for making a ring menu..
Anyways. Have fun.
Screenshot:

osrs 03-20-2003 07:40 PM

Nice..
Good luck tyrial.

PastAustin 03-20-2003 07:42 PM

Hello! I am part of team! Woot. ;) As I told you though, I may be doing other big things, so I might not be completly devoted.

NovaNET 03-20-2003 07:44 PM

*Applause*

melissa1988 03-20-2003 09:02 PM

Does this mean you're not doing Jurassic Pork anymore?

mhermher 03-20-2003 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by melissa1988
Does this mean you're not doing Jurassic Pork anymore?
Jurassic Dork? naw.. genesis is a idiot.. should of seen it earlier

Waltz5 03-20-2003 10:11 PM

Re: Behold, Adiarde!
 
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Originally posted by mhermher

PS: Konidias, do not say i stole your tiles as you did on AIM, just because i made a bricks house don't mean i stole your. It's the same if i would say you stole SoM's menu for making a ring menu..
Anyways. Have fun.

Too bad that look exactly like's Oasis, just larger. It's not the same thing, you "stole" the Oasis style. He is simply using a ring system for his menu, so I guess the hats on GBM copied off of SOM because it's a ring system too.

Anyways, Oasis looks way better. This upcoming PW is the same ole same ole, a person who sees that people like Oasis so they try to emulate it. Too bad that people (most) don't like unoriginal stuff.

But your character is original, but it's not good.

Just my 2 cents.

mhermher 03-20-2003 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by Waltz5


Too bad that look exactly like's Oasis, just larger. It's not the same thing, you "stole" the Oasis style. He is simply using a ring system for his menu, so I guess the hats on GBM copied off of SOM because it's a ring system too.

Anyways, Oasis looks way better. This upcoming PW is the same ole same ole, a person who sees that people like Oasis so they try to emulate it. Too bad that people (most) don't like unoriginal stuff.

But your character is original, but it's not good.

Just my 2 cents.

I did not steal oasis idea, i made this kind of roof for *** once.. like a year ago

Waltz5 03-20-2003 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by mhermher


I did not steal oasis idea, i made this kind of roof for *** once.. like a year ago

I absolutely guarantee you, that you wouldn't of made this style, especially with the colors without seeing Oasis.

mhermher 03-20-2003 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Waltz5

I absolutely guarantee you, that you wouldn't of made this style, especially with the colors without seeing Oasis.

Please, know your speech. Take oasis colors and then take mine, there is no color in those 2 images that are the same, exept the original paint colors.

Waltz5 03-20-2003 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by mhermher

Please, know your speech. Take oasis colors and then take mine, there is no color in those 2 images that are the same, exept the original paint colors.

Oh I'm so sorry... there is such a huge difference between
181 89 74
179 87 77

zell12 03-20-2003 10:34 PM

You cannot steal someones style unless they paid money to patent it for some time. And none of the styles are copyrighted so you cannot keep saying this.

Spark910 03-20-2003 10:42 PM

And from the extra information which I have, which is not presented on the table here, the thief is not the person you think.

mhermher 03-20-2003 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by Waltz5

Oh I'm so sorry... there is such a huge difference between
181 89 74
179 87 77

And which tiles was that?

Waltz5 03-21-2003 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
You cannot steal someones style unless they paid money to patent it for some time. And none of the styles are copyrighted so you cannot keep saying this.
I don't care, I would think people would have the decency to let people design their own original things and not to try to copy them.

Anyways, you have a really good team, so I do expect good things from you, which is why I guess I didn't expect this.

G_yoshi 03-21-2003 01:47 AM

You do realize that you're going to come under much heavy fire from Konidias and possibly others.

I'll put in my thoughts:

Ring Menu != imitating others graphics.

I've already gone over this before. A menu is a menu. If you want to get technical, whoever made the first PC menu should be entitled to a lot of money. But its an interface which is different than graphics and artwork. It would be one thing if Konidias ripped the code from the actual game rather than script it himself. The artwork, however, is different. Even though Graalonline pretty much nulls the automattic copyright of images (artwork or graphics created on a PC that is then put online is considered to be a published work and is given a copyright to the creator automattically), its still his work and you are basically trying to create a "pirate" or clone version of his server in all appearances. You would be absolutely infuriated if you had a unique style and someone else decided to just up and copy it without permission otherwise. So why are you trying to rationalize and justify your actions?

People will easily make the choice where to go. Heck, when I first looked at that screenshot I was shocked! Another Oasis?! Just because you do not have identical colors does not mean you are protected. Its just an excuse to use graphics that you didn't create. Its really a recolour no matter how slight the change is. Stop trying to hide the fact(s). It would be no different if I went and ripped sprites from a popular game and recoloured them and called them my own work or it would be like someone taking WinXP and changing a few of its appearances and saying its thier own OS. Do you see where I'm going with this? Just because you wased your time and effort on changing certain qualities just ever so slightly doesn't mean its new and your own.

konidias 03-21-2003 02:12 AM

I'm just going to let him make a fool of himself. There's no point in arguing with him. People aren't stupid and they can easily tell what is copied and what isn't.

magicbud3344 03-21-2003 03:46 AM

badass!
shorty2dope rox O:!

Dude6252000 03-21-2003 03:59 AM

Wow, no comment on me working on a PW, for the first time in, what, 2 years? :(

PrinceDark 03-21-2003 04:54 AM

Shorty2Dope?
Didn't he give his account away after he said he was sick of Graal?

Devil 03-21-2003 06:26 AM

So this is how everyone is going to be treated when they make their own tiles, always saying that they stole from Oasis, or copied Oasis, get over yourselves ;/

Kinatt 03-21-2003 08:06 AM

STOP! I have seen the oasis tileset, AND yes that is a blatent copy. Would everyone who wants to make a pw (except Koni and Soulblade) STOP!! I mean seriously if you have to take it from another pw, just stop. And that body makes me want to say STOP.

So save yourself the time, and STOP

PS: STOP!!

Devil 03-21-2003 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by Kinatt
STOP! I have seen the oasis tileset, AND yes that is a blatent copy. Would everyone who wants to make a pw (except Koni and Soulblade) STOP!! I mean seriously if you have to take it from another pw, just stop. And that body makes me want to say STOP.

So save yourself the time, and STOP

PS: STOP!!


Gaha, I suppose you might be right, but seriously why has it been the format recently to steal off of Oasis.

tlf288 03-21-2003 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by Devil


why has it been the format recently to steal off of Oasis.

Come'on... Is it that hard to figure out?

Kinatt 03-21-2003 08:48 AM

Actually yea, cuz I don't get it either? why is everyone stealing off oasis?

Devil 03-21-2003 09:08 AM

Behold ! Stolen graphics !

JrTerrorist 03-21-2003 11:53 AM

The bodies look nice and all.. its just that well..
Those house tiles look like others.. they're getting too common in my opinion.. so try to think up something completely original.

mhermher 03-21-2003 12:49 PM

This is no recolor or anything, i made the outlines my self and i picked random colors. (Ones to fit).
That is not my only house, i have 4 other houses to show.. but it won't be anytime soon.
Konidias, NOTHING is copied... You said i stole your door, the boarders around the door.. but hey.. i remember when your door had no boarders, who told you to add them? ME! So basicly, it's my idea.

And the body is in work, i just added it fast so it could be in a screenshot.


And shorty is back!

Konidias, if you think i'm making a fool of myself.. that's fine.. I don't care.. i will keep the tiles i made, and i have the right to do so. I will continue this project, no matter what any of you says.

Thanks for the people that liked it.

JrTerrorist 03-21-2003 01:28 PM

I like it Tyrial, its jsut that so many servers have it ;o

ETD 03-21-2003 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Devil
So this is how everyone is going to be treated when they make their own tiles, always saying that they stole from Oasis, or copied Oasis, get over yourselves ;/
I take offence to this
=0
i am making a server, and it is going quite well, and i do not think you should judge all server projects in general, unless you have litterally seen every one of them.

Yes, i agree with Arc that this 'style' is becomming over-used... but the 'style' i think it is, is just un-detailed graphics
=X
i'm not saying i could do better... but if you look at the graphics in both tilesets... both houses have empty bricks... not very detailed (which is fine really), but i do NOT think this was a copy...

now what i DO question is the grass
=x
since it looks the exact same as the grass in jurassic relms... but for all i know, you could have permission to use it.

konidias 03-21-2003 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by ETD
Yes, i agree with Arc that this 'style' is becomming over-used... but the 'style' i think it is, is just un-detailed graphics
=X
i'm not saying i could do better... but if you look at the graphics in both tilesets... both houses have empty bricks... not very detailed (which is fine really), but i do NOT think this was a copy...

now what i DO question is the grass
=x
since it looks the exact same as the grass in jurassic relms... but for all i know, you could have permission to use it.

My brick tiles aren't empty... They are shaded and textured and have cracks in certain parts of the bricks and stuff... I don't see how you can squeeze much more detail into it.

Anyway, my personal opinion is, that this playerworld will never get online, and if it does, it won't last very long.

ETD 03-21-2003 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by konidias

My brick tiles aren't empty... They are shaded and textured and have cracks in certain parts of the bricks and stuff... I don't see how you can squeeze much more detail into it.

eh, sorry, the last time i looked at your stuff was like 6 months ago i think
=x

and i ment new player worlds in general... since most aren't very detailed tilesets (yet some are...)

i'll just shutup now, before i acccidently offend anyone else
=X

mhermher 03-21-2003 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by konidias

My brick tiles aren't empty... They are shaded and textured and have cracks in certain parts of the bricks and stuff... I don't see how you can squeeze much more detail into it.

Anyway, my personal opinion is, that this playerworld will never get online, and if it does, it won't last very long.

Wait and see then.

mhermher 03-21-2003 05:34 PM

Oh and,
Jurassic Realms and Adiarde grass is nothing the same, not the same color, nothing.. JR was 1 tile, this is 4.

melissa1988 03-21-2003 07:32 PM

evil double poster

ETD 03-21-2003 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by mhermher
Oh and,
Jurassic Realms and Adiarde grass is nothing the same, not the same color, nothing.. JR was 1 tile, this is 4.

actually, JR's grass was 2 tiles from all the stuff i saw...

but you're right, this grass is changed some, sorry about that
=0

good luck on the server

Deek2 03-21-2003 11:40 PM

Tyrial, are you still going to pay the people that are going to work for you, like you said?

Goboom 03-22-2003 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
You cannot steal someones style unless they paid money to patent it for some time. And none of the styles are copyrighted so you cannot keep saying this.
Accept for the fact anything uploaded to Graal servers is copyrighted.


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