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Redwizard 02-23-2003 01:23 PM

New item/money loss mode..
 
Ok i know i shouldnt be talking like this but it is really somethig that make me very mad, and i think is very unfair in a lot of ways.
I started with like 200 plats, then i went to my kingdom island to put battlemode on. Now i returned to the haunted houses and stuff and then i gained exp well and junk. then some FA**OTS *cough*northsidesoldier and lady auron*cough* Came up to me, killed me, now i have 0 plats left AND my shovel and AXE is gone and i cant get off this island very easily. It is unfair that some level 10 comes up to you with weapon damage+80 or somethign, slashes you one hit then he steals ur plats, in my opinion how the heck can anybody prepare their weapon anymore? It is not fair at all on the new people who use battle mode for training, and i think there should be a seperate battle mode for player killing too, so one for dungeoning and training and another for killing other players u know what im saying? im sure a lot of you out there also died alot cos of sum gits killing you and taking ur plats and items. and the worst thing is, they are STALKING people like me! And they call themselves RPers! LOL

brock128 02-23-2003 04:48 PM

I was about to say "ABOUT FREAKING TIME" when I saw that you lost 200 plat.

NONONONONONONONONONO. It seems like graal 2002 hasn't changed at all - too hard to gain somthing, too easy to lose it all.

Dude6252000 02-23-2003 04:58 PM

Well, I thought about coming back, but after hearing this, my 700+ plat still feels unsafe. Oh well.

And Redwizard, RPing has nothing to do with PKing. If they were off tag, oh well.

zell12 02-23-2003 05:56 PM

Would you rather lose exp and stats when you die? Or 4 plat for every level you have?
4 plat = level 1
8 plat = level 2 etc...
Battle mode - You can kill other players on battle mode, you get all the exp.
Peaceful - You only get 3/4 of the exp, and you are protected from other players.

Rax 02-23-2003 07:38 PM

do you lose exp on battle?why dont you just put the money in your house?

zell12 02-23-2003 08:05 PM

You get all the exp from killing monsters, but peaceful people only get 3/4 Porky...
And people don't want to run to their house every time they get money =/

Kaiser2 02-23-2003 08:27 PM

Actually, though I'm not sure and you might be right, Excal, but you gain double exp on battle mode.

Rax 02-23-2003 09:36 PM

do u gain exp for killing ppl on battle?

Locke_boy 02-23-2003 09:48 PM

Here's how it is.

Battle mode gains normal experience, 100%. While in battle mode, you can attack and be attacked by members of enemy/neutral kingdoms. If you die, you will lose about 4 plat per level. If you have no money, you'll lose body parts .. and it seems that you can lose tools as well, I've found shovels and axes around. You will not gain experience for killing another player, and you will not lose experience for being killed by a player or monster.

In peaceful mode, you will gain 75% of the possible experience. You will not be able to be hurt by players at all, but if you die you will still lose the 4 plat per level, or whatever else.

Remember one thing, that being that your items drop where you died, and that you can always run back to get them.

If you don't want to get PKed, stay out of battle mode. You used to only get 50% of the full experience, but now it's 75%! Big improvement.

When it comes to money .. if it's truly that important to you, then stop at your house every few hundred plats or so to store it .. or even just find a hidden spot and put it in a bury bag! There are ways to avoid losing your hard-earned money.

I think this is a very big improvement! I no longer need to worry about losing my hard-earned experience .. money is hardly as important, in my opinion.

zell12 02-23-2003 09:54 PM

Yes, you cannot attack your allies :) It's a good thing.
And even better, you cannot hurt yourself with spells :)

Locke_boy 02-23-2003 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zell12
Yes, you cannot attack your allies :) It's a good thing.
And even better, you cannot hurt yourself with spells :)

I forgot to mention that! That's so great! Finally, magic balance .. it's starting .. this is a big step. :)

Rax 02-23-2003 10:07 PM

no kingdom ppl like me cant be on battle :[

Selzar 02-23-2003 10:10 PM

complains complains someome will always hate the new system when its god like.
THERE IS NO MORE STAT/EXP LOSS>
I"D RATHER LOSE CASH.If you can't take the heat get out of the fire, meaning get the F*** out of battle mode.

Locke_boy 02-23-2003 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rax
no kingdom ppl like me cant be on battle :[
Here's your solution:

Learn how to role-play well, learn how to be compassionate. Stop scamming, stop insulting people, stop being so mean, and maybe someone will let you into a kingdom. If someone lets you in a kingdom before you learn these things, then that kingdom's leader should look over their rules again.

LOA--Paul 02-23-2003 10:55 PM

The new system is great! You can't expect there to be no penalty at all from dying in battlemode, and as many others said- peaceful mode now gets 3/4 of the exp, so it's not s horrible to be on it as it was before. If you are concerned about ebing killed and losing money, stay on peaceful.

zell12 02-24-2003 12:50 AM

Yeah, and you can still lose items/money when you die in peaceful, but you keep your exp/stats.:)

TeRRi2k 02-24-2003 04:19 AM

people complain all the time o_o they complain when they lose exp, complain if they lose money ;x

Kinatt 02-24-2003 04:31 AM

Re: New item/money loss mode..
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Redwizard
..FA**OTS ..
Avoiding filter? tsk tsk

Quote:

Originally posted by the intelligent Redwizard
.. northsidesoldier and lady auron*cough*..
Ok I don't know northsidesoldier but lady auron is evil she rp's evil shes a demon and basically lately she has been needing blood of virgins (aka stupid newbies who are on battle who shouldn't be).

Quote:

Originally posted by the smart Redwizard
.. Came up to me, killed me, now i have 0 plats left AND my shovel and AXE is gone and i cant get off this island very easily.

Ok 0 plats that means from what ive read your lvl 50? cuz 200 plats at 4pp per level would mean that.. unles they killed you over and over again.. unto which I can see a problem.

Quote:

Originally posted by the sensible Redwizard
.. It is unfair that some level 10 comes up to you with weapon damage+80 or somethign, slashes you one hit then he steals ur plats, in my opinion how the heck can anybody prepare their weapon anymore?

ok, It is not unfair as you put it, because you are on battle mode and accepted the risk of this happening when you chose it. Also, Lady_Auron doesn't have a damage +80 weapon her dmg is like 15? somewhere around there.. northsoldier I don't know I doubt he's that all powerful either but he may be. You can prepare your weapon by either:
a. going on peace and gaining money
b. not being lazy, and storing your money at your house. (I think there should be a house warp spell ^_^)

Quote:

Originally posted by Redwizard
.. It is not fair at all on the new people who use battle mode for training, ..
Ok, I am going to stop right here and read what you just wrote over again just to be sure you actually put what I think you put.. yea you did.. I have just been knocked out of my chair by your stupidity. First off, new people should not, I repeat, SHOULD NOT go onto battle mode for training if they are not sure what to do in all situations dealing with other players battling and are knowing of the consequences of going onto battle mode. Second off, if you cannot accept the fact that YOU will be killed by someone such as Thanatos, or a wannabe, you just shouldn't be in battlemode, plain and simple. This is the most repeated thing put in these forums however, not so idiotically posted in such a blatent manner. So in the end it boils down to.. do you want to gain exp just a tad slower and be positive you aren't going to get hunted down? Or, do you want to take that chance and most likely be killed by another player. Thats the difference between peace and battle. You can't pvp with the best statistics people? Then don't go into battle, however if you can then do! So simply put, new people shouldn't use it. If they do.. prepare to lose alot of exp(money now i spose).

Quote:

Originally posted by the not so smart Redwizard
.. and i think there should be a seperate battle mode for player killing too, so one for dungeoning and training and another for killing other players u know what im saying?
No, I don't understand. However, let me see if I get your .. seemingly hidden idea.

what your proposing is.
Peace mode.. no player killing, 3/4 exp, and item loss.
Battle mode1.. no player killering, full exp, and item loss.
*I know your saying playerkilling out of dungeons however nobody really uses shrooms to get to lvl 20.
Battle mode2.. playerkilling, full exp, and item loss.

so really no one would go peace mode, or battle mode2. because why get 3/4 exp when you can get full exp, or why go on bm2 when the risk is mute in dungeons when there is no advantage except you can be killed there.

Quote:

Originally posted by the dumb Redwizard
..
im sure a lot of you out there also died alot cos of sum gits killing you and taking ur plats and items. and the worst thing is, they are STALKING people like me! And they call themselves RPers! LOL

No, I am not stupid enough to go onto battlemode when I can't fight with the best of them. Stalking you? Well, they have the right considering they can kill you and you are on battle mode which is basically saying "hey I can fight you because I think im good enough" the message is not "plz leave me alone im a **** who wants the most exp without the risk" again Lady Auron is a RPer shes a Yokai do a /who :)

I am sorry to inform you that this post is very very.. painful to the eyes redwizard. I respect you for your opinions sometimes because you can hold very insightful points. I must say this is not one of those posts.

Zell knows this proverb,
"You can't have your cake and eat it too" in this case you can't have all the EXP and no risk of being PKed you can have one or the other and that point isn't shrouded so you don't know what the penalties are for either option, the only thing that is stopping that information given to you is your brain, which must be blocking information instead of soaking it in, better fix that before you go to college. Also, let me tell you something about the individuals of graal if you haven't figured it out yet because of your condition with your brain, people are mean.. they aren't nice. So you will be in a fight more than once and you will die more than once at the hands of another player.. sorry to inform you this but it's the truth.

So let me tell you the answer to your problem if you haven't figured it out yet. Go off battlemode and do the fine people of this forum a pleasure of never having to see this post again from you. Instead, you will be giving your actually useful information instead of this garbage which has taken 10 minutes of my time.


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