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relenakat 02-17-2003 06:54 AM

Bomy Frustration
 
Alright, bomies, just about the coolest thing in the world, right? Well, being one right now isn't so great, I mean we can do just about 3 jobs, Apple farming, Pearl Diving and Bird catching (Bleh -_-) While humans can do about 5 jobs, one which a bomy can do. So I ask, how do bomies even stay alive? I mean, it's either become a human, be abused by salesman (Trying to get a shovel and watering can) or just, stay a bomy and get 33% less. Now I agree, pearl diving is one plus compared to being a human, but come on! We can't even fish!

So why be a bomy? Well, look at it this way, it costs $100 to change to a human, and then you have to bake a load of bread, which it took me 2 hours to get 25 gralat. Where as a bomy it took me about 5 minutes.

So in the long run, Bomies get less than humans. Thanks for listening, and have a nice day.

Googi 02-17-2003 07:12 AM

Bomys have less than humans? I think not.

We have 100 more HP than humans, an obvious combat advantage.

The five jobs that humans can do that bomys can't (Bread Baking, Apple Pie Baking, Snowcone Making, Fishing and Mining) aren't as good as pearl diving. Mining has about equal profit, yes, but it requires expensive tools.

MilkyWay0016 02-17-2003 07:15 AM

Pearl diving is worse now that you need 5 white pearls to get 1 g... but I guess that's a little more fair.

What there should be is more npcs for bomys, like hats and stuff. It can't be very much fun to have staff be working on swords, sword belts, hats, etc. etc. Not that that's all you guys do, I know you do a lot more, but still.

Zurkiba 02-17-2003 07:22 AM

Do you know how much work it takes for a Human to gain a couple of gralats? Humans need a thing we call
Tools

Some tools need upgrading and some even need repair. It costs a great deal to maintain tools and such.

But bomies dont need tools.
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I believe it was Googi or some other Bomy person who suggested that bomies should be able to make, sell, and wear pearl necklases and such.

If Muskets become available to kingdoms, then maybe bomies can go into the small sulfar shafts to mine it?

relenakat 02-17-2003 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Googi
Bomys have less than humans? I think not.

We have 100 more HP than humans, an obvious combat advantage.

The five jobs that humans can do that bomys can't (Bread Baking, Apple Pie Baking, Snowcone Making, Fishing and Mining) aren't as good as pearl diving. Mining has about equal profit, yes, but it requires expensive tools.

Tools, which bomies can't use. We can't wear hats, you guys came out with scabbards and swords (As said before) and what do bomies get? Do you ever see an update like "Bomies get claws" or some nice little update? No.

And the 100 more HP effect is pretty much nulified by the sword of humans. But as a bomy there is less to do. We can play instruments, yeah. But can you tell me something fun, that we can do than humans can't? Hacky sack, yeah, real great. That's one. Compared to the 20 things humans can do we can't.

(FYI Snowcones I were taken down I believe)

Kaimetsu 02-17-2003 11:26 AM

It is because bomies are just one big horrible idea.

Ghost Pirate 02-17-2003 12:00 PM

If you want more for bomys there is 2 things you can do.

1: Whine and moan and have nothing happen.
2: Make things for bomys and try and get them uploaded.

Zurkiba 02-17-2003 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by relenakat


Tools, which bomies can't use. We can't wear hats, you guys came out with scabbards and swords (As said before) and what do bomies get? Do you ever see an update like "Bomies get claws" or some nice little update? No.

And the 100 more HP effect is pretty much nulified by the sword of humans. But as a bomy there is less to do. We can play instruments, yeah. But can you tell me something fun, that we can do than humans can't? Hacky sack, yeah, real great. That's one. Compared to the 20 things humans can do we can't.

(FYI Snowcones I were taken down I believe)

You dont need tools, tools make you LOOSE money.

What the hell? Scabbards isn't ANYTHING over a bomy, nor is the sword.

If you get a bomy PKer (I believe Googi is one) I'm sure he could own any Human with a sword. Want to know why? Because Humans have to attack TWICE as many times as bomies do WITH swords. Bomies dont have hands, so they dont have claws.

The HP thing, read above.

We can play hacky sack. And do you want to know why the server is based around humans? It's because 99% of them ARE humans. And another reason why the server is based around humans: There is a morphing device in which you can change from bomy to human.

Your arguements would've been fine when you had to RESTART to change your race. But now they are just mindless groans.

I agree with Ghost, if you want something done about it... do it yourself. If you cant do it... go on 2k1 and talk with some of the staffers to see if they can help you. Because that is why they are there, to help you.

Googi 02-17-2003 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by relenakat
Tools, which bomies can't use. We can't wear hats, you guys came out with scabbards and swords (As said before) and what do bomies get? Do you ever see an update like "Bomies get claws" or some nice little update? No.
Bomy kick does just as much damage as human sword. It's an extra 50g in our pockets.

Quote:

Originally posted by relenakat
And the 100 more HP effect is pretty much nulified by the sword of humans. But as a bomy there is less to do. We can play instruments, yeah. But can you tell me something fun, that we can do than humans can't?
What? Umm, bomy kick is just as good as the human sword.

Infact, Bomy Kick is BETTER because it's a shorter gani (and is therefore faster).


Quote:

Originally posted by relenakat
Hacky sack, yeah, real great. That's one. Compared to the 20 things humans can do we can't.
Well, you're right, humans can do a lot of things that we can't. However, very few of the things that they can do that we can't are actually worth doing (The only one I can think of is hats).

--Chris-- 02-17-2003 07:42 PM

Bomy Advantages:
1)Fast in water, controllable once you get use it or have a speed above 3 on 2k2.
2)100 more hp
3)Faster attacking which does around same as sword
4)Hiding in shell which makes you recieve no damage
5)Jump off cliffs instantly
6)Easier jobs

AlexH 02-17-2003 07:44 PM

The main difference I think between the races is that humans have something tradable.
Bomies need something like that which is easily noticed and looks good.
But due to size variation it makes it difficult. :(

Torankusu 02-17-2003 07:50 PM

Bomy fishing would be leet.
You could make/buy some special boots that didn't make you go uncontrollably fast in water, but they let you swim like humans only in bomy form by kicking and stuff, and you could sit still over where you found fish and bite down trying to catch fish, and you could struggle to catch it or put it in a sack or something.

Just an idea.

Ghost Pirate 02-17-2003 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
Bomy fishing would be leet.
You could make/buy some special boots that didn't make you go uncontrollably fast in water, but they let you swim like humans only in bomy form by kicking and stuff, and you could sit still over where you found fish and bite down trying to catch fish, and you could struggle to catch it or put it in a sack or something.

Just an idea.

Wrapping the Bird Anchor around their shell and make them slow?

Sparkplug 02-17-2003 09:42 PM

I think they should put a hit ammount that a bomy can stay in the shell at a time. Ive seen some that just PK but then they hide and shell so we cant kill.
Just an idea

brock128 02-18-2003 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by relenakat
Hacky sack, yeah, real great. That's one. Compared to the 20 things humans can do we can't.
...And then they get HUMAN HACKY. Amazing.
Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
It is because bomies are just one big horrible idea.
They're just abused.
Quote:

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
If you want more for bomys there is 2 things you can do.

1: Whine and moan and have nothing happen.
2: Make things for bomys and try and get them uploaded.

Googi's pearl necklace making. Whee.
Quote:

Originally posted by Zurkiba
We can play hacky sack. And do you want to know why the server is based around humans? It's because 99% of them ARE humans.
...Because there's nothing for bomies to do, so they make stuff for humans, who stay humans because there's nothing for bomies to do. It's a neverending cycle.

Half the humans I know say "I'd be a bomy, but they don't get hats."
Quote:

Originally posted by --Chris--
Bomy Advantages:
1)Fast in water, controllable once you get use it or have a speed above 3 on 2k2.
2)100 more hp
3)Faster attacking which does around same as sword
4)Hiding in shell which makes you recieve no damage
5)Jump off cliffs instantly
6)Easier jobs

5 is a disadvantage in some cases.

Disadvantages
1) No freaking hats.
2) Slow when not in water.
3) Abused by most humans.
4) People enjoy bouncing bomies off the wall.
Quote:

Originally posted by Sparkplug
I think they should put a hit ammount that a bomy can stay in the shell at a time. Ive seen some that just PK but then they hide and shell so we cant kill.
Just an idea

So just leave them alone. It's no worse then pausing.

Torankusu 02-18-2003 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate


Wrapping the Bird Anchor around their shell and make them slow?

good idea.
That could ground them better and make them swim slower. Nice.

MrCharles 02-18-2003 04:36 AM

Bomys should get human hp its not fair.;/

they can kick faster in combat anyway they should have our hp since they dont get hurt anymore when you constantly hit them.

Larrien 02-18-2003 06:15 PM

Maybe we have 299 hitpoints max and you have 199 hitpoints max because you can do things that we can't and vice versa? The system all balances it out. I've also found that combat between bomies and humans can be quite equal. If you look at yesterday's war of the races, the fighting would've been more equal, but us bomies had the strength in numbers and people who were willing to fight. You had maybe 3 or 4 people. I don't know, this server shouldn't be all about player killing. There shouldn't be any changes made. :)

AlexH 02-18-2003 07:48 PM

The hp system is okay I think.
True bomies get 100 more hp but that's abotu what, 6, 7, 8 at most extra hits.
Which shouldn't be too difficult as humans are much faster than bomies.

konidias 02-18-2003 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
It is because bomies are just one big horrible idea.
I agree 110 percent. Everyone who disagrees is only proving a point. Because all this arguing and saying "this is unfair" is just proving that bomy players are too big of a hassle to even worry about, since it's never going to be dead even fair to everyone on both sides. Plus having 2 races means if one race gets an update, the other race will feel left out if they can't get an update as well.

"OMG LIEK HUMANS GOT 20 NEW HATS AND WHAT DO BOMIES GET!?! NUTHIN!!!111" I've heard it one too many times.

Bomies have NO HANDS. It's entirely hard to update them any further. If you make hands for them, they lose their entire purpose. Then they are just like humans and you might as well not be a bomy at all. That's why I always hated the futuristic suit idea where the bomy controlled robot hands with mind powers. :rolleyes:

Bomies are nice as pets, they should have never become players.

MilkyWay0016 02-18-2003 09:44 PM

Don't you staff people realise that when someone complains about something you should try and fix it instend of making fun of the person who made the complaint? Sometimes I think you Bomy Moon staff have forgotton that your job is to please the player, not please yourself and make fun of the player.

Kaimetsu 02-18-2003 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MilkyWay0016
Don't you staff people realise that when someone complains about something you should try and fix it instend of making fun of the person who made the complaint?
Which Bomy Moon staff members made fun of him?

Xeph0ria 02-18-2003 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Look! The monkey is watching you!

That's not a monkey that's Domo-kun. :p

Googi 02-18-2003 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias
Bomies are nice as pets, they should have never become players.
Next time you come on Bomy Moon I'll have to spar you with my bomy kick and win because of my bomy HP bonus.

MilkyWay0016 02-18-2003 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Which Bomy Moon staff members made fun of him?

My bad, I forgot that Koni stopped working there.

relenakat 02-19-2003 06:17 AM

Quote:

If you get a bomy PKer (I believe Googi is one) I'm sure he could own any Human with a sword. Want to know why? Because Humans have to attack TWICE as many times as bomies do WITH swords. Bomies dont have hands, so they dont have claws.
Hello, Feet? -_-;

Personally if I would've ever known that Staff allowed us to make stuff for our own race, I would've done it...or maybe I will do now...Hrmm... >=) Too bad I'd have to bother certain staff for the strings, etc. Oh well it's worth it right? ;)

MilkyWay0016 02-19-2003 06:19 AM

For all the health and kick arguments...

What about the bomy that doesn't want to PKay? They don't have very many things to do.

Googi 02-19-2003 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MilkyWay0016
For all the health and kick arguments...

What about the bomy that doesn't want to PKay? They don't have very many things to do.

For money making - pearl diving.

Bomys have essentially every single advantage over humans except landspeed and being able to wear hats.

Zurkiba 02-19-2003 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Googi


For money making - pearl diving.

Bomys have essentially every single advantage over humans except landspeed and being able to wear hats.

Exactly...
The richest person was (heheh wasn't me) some bomy dude.

Do you know how hard it is to kill a bomy? I mean it's hard unless you back them into a corner and keep them occupied.

Bomies have the best financial gain, best defense, and best attack. So if there is a race to improve on... it'd be the Humans. They've finally balanced everything out.

It used to be that there was only 10 or so humans and everyone was a bomy. There was no baking, no diamond axe... no nothing. While Humans would have to work for an hour to get 10g, Bomies would have to work 10 mins.

It's kind of like America, Caucasians have to follow guidelines to help the minority races catch up to them financially and such.

And I dont think it's right when people are like "HUMANS SUCK ASS... THEY CAN DIE. JUST GO AND DIE" (I always make sure they get atleast 15 rocks). Yeah sure, bomy only guilds and houses are fine... but when you go "HUAMSN SUX LOLOL" it's just sickening.

MilkyWay0016 02-19-2003 10:42 PM

Can I just say that if so many bomies are complaining there must be a problem. 20 people don't just randomly decide to try and annoy admins with same topic over and over :o

Instead of fighting over if bomys have enough items, why don't we try and come up with some ideas of things they could have?

brock128 02-19-2003 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MilkyWay0016
Can I just say that if so many bomies are complaining there must be a problem. 20 people don't just randomly decide to try and annoy admins with same topic over and over :o

Instead of fighting over if bomys have enough items, why don't we try and come up with some ideas of things they could have?

PEARL NECKLACE MAKING.


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