Hidden Worlds
 

This is a comment\complaint directed towards hidden worlds.

I do not like how hidden worlds direct players to other servers automaticly, or do things like, reset their accounts to log them off.


I have it on my server, so you are reset if you have more than 4 weapons (ammt of system weapons there are) that way people dont have too much stuff.

But people dont log on after they are reset, thinking they are booted off like on other servers.

This pisses me off, and probably annoys some pw managers who have the same problem.

Maybe this could be fixed by having it so it doesnt say "You were disconnected" when you were reset, but instead "An administrator reset your account" so you know.

But still doesnt solve that some servers reset you to log you off.

Thats dumb!
Make something to hold them from getting to your world.

Dont redirect them, because thats just dumb.
If you dont want people seeing your world, and you dont want people playing on it, and you dont want people seeing who the staff are.

DONT SUBMIT IT!
Simple as that.

Um, the player isn't forced to type in hidden pw's and try to access them. If the playerworld isn't on the playerworld list, that means you probably shouldn't be seeing it.

It's no ones fault but your own, if you try to log onto a private pw and something bad happens. :P

Warcaptain, you're the worst one I think. You try to log on every private pw there is. I've seen you attempt to get on Oasis several times, and you were trying to get on others as well. The reason they aren't on the list, is because you're not supposed to go there. It's kind of obvious don't you think?

i think you are getting the wrong idea

that little icon next to them, on the RC server list, is an Under Construction icon.

you are UC, not private.

if you want to work privately, then dont submit your world.

they arent on the list, because it looks bad for graal, and bad for the buisness of graal if it has 5-10 worlds that are UC, and it makes the rest look bad.

this way it keeps the completed worlds up, and showcased, when the rest are not shown, but are still accesable to those who want to go to them.

They are meant to be PRIVATE. Stefan just transferred them to normal and not visible so it was easier for people to make new staff accounts and things for their private pw's. Of course private pw's are UC, they aren't finished, or they wouldn't be private. They show up on RC, but they clearly do not show up in the playerworld list, where you would log into them to get d/c or sent to another server like you said.

as i said before

they are like that so that they can develope their worlds, without trashing the serverlist

and they are hidden, so that the rest can be "showcased" without being mixed with the UC ones.

None of them are supposed to be "showcased" they are all private and UC. It's up to the pw manager to decide if they want people to be able to view the server. I should know, I was the one that asked Stefan to switch Oasis to this so that I could add staff accounts myself. You shouldn't complain/argue/rant about things you don't know much about. :\

Your logic amazes me too.
"If you dont want people seeing your world, and you dont want people playing on it, and you dont want people seeing who the staff are.

DONT SUBMIT IT!
Simple as that."

Yeah, really smart. You only left out one thing, and that's the fact that the people need the npc server to continue development.

and?

i dont kick people off my server, or transfer them

and i manage to use my npcserver, and develope new enigma on my space.

why is that?
and the UC worlds arent showcased, the ones that ARENT uc are.

Some of us don't like players "snooping" or getting in the way ;) Of course, I just have a small barrier set up...just no script to send them elsewhere since they can't do any harm where they are locked to :D

thats exactly what im saying
just put something up to keep players off your world, but warping them away, or reseting them, isnt good.

Why not? Sending them elsewhere isn't hurting anyone. Same thing with reseting them.

Gee, I don't know, maybe because they would bother me nonstop via PM? :rolleyes: There's been 921 attempts made by players trying to access Oasis. That's 921 possible times that someone could bother me or my staff while we work.

welcome to the world of BEING A PW MANAGER!

you wanted it

now enjoy :)

youve been pampered by being private server for so long, now its time to actualy do more than just sit back and enjoy the cricket chips.

If you can't handle this now don't expect to succeed once you go public.

It's nothing but 'annoying players bugging you' from there on.

Um, wha?! If Konidias or myself don't want to be bothered, we don't have to be :/ Show me something that says I must keep my PW open to anyone at all times even if its UC and hidden. Good luck :p

However, being distracted while busy with other things is not good. Too often, I've gotten into dumb PM conversations and lost track of what I was doing :/ This is a good way to prevent it from happening :D

I'm well prepared to handle the PMs. When my pw is public, and I'm not neck-deep in development. Sitting around talking to people about what your playerworld will be, won't make it get done any faster.

Guess what? Nobody that actually does work, has the time to talk with everyone that messages them. Look at Stefan for example. He gets on for short amounts of time to add things. He doesn't stay on to answer the quazillion pm's he gets, because he would never get anything done if he did.

I think the warpoff is no worse than pigeonholing the player to a level having nothing but a logo.

Either way the player can't play. So why not serverwarp them to newmain or classic?

Warcaptain, don't be so damn dense. It's their playerworlds and they can manage them the way they want. Do you know how much it pissed me off when you would always try and log onto Graal2230 to see if me or Jagen were on? Oh cmon, give me a break. The playerworlds are not the serverlist because they are underconstruction. OK? So obviously, if you have to type in the name of the server to even try connecting to it, you shouldn't be. Nobody is forcing you, it's not affecting you nor harming you in anyway.

Example: Construction workers are building a two story apartment building. You come to their site and walk around all day getting in the way. Think they would like that? NO, which is why they have signs saying "No Trespassing" (sp?) and such and such, and they can kick you off the site.

Same thing as a UC PW captain. Now, go make your server and stop whining about others.

...guys, the reason we don't want you on our UC worlds is because it's a pain in the ass finding Unixmad to get him to reset all accounts for a server. If you come on while it's under development and get infinite gralats, an improperly removed weapon, or a flag that later scripts detect, you start with an unfair advantage or disadvantage. The server could be scripted with version numbers to compensate, but that defeats the purpose of it being Under Construction - the whole point is rapid production without sweating players' accounts yet

Yeah, all the players recieve on our pw is a weapon that kicks them when they log on. So when the pw goes public, we just delete the weapon and everyone is fine. :)

Warcaptain is just mad that he can't go snooping around in other pw's to take ideas or something. :p

if you cant handle the pm's gotten from people who KNOW about hidden worlds

dont expect to handle it when its public, and everyone sees it.

Just ignore the PM's! Everyone else does who doesnt want to talk.

you have to type the name of the pw in not so that players WONT connect to them, but so everyone can access the UC worlds.

and in regards to the construction site metaphore

they dont just have the area open to the public and you can walk in whenever you want, and if you do you get kicked out

they put walls up to keep you out, but you can still go to the walls and look at it.

if you want, you can walk in and ask someone there some questions about it if you wanted.

they dont just have guards near the perimeter and kick you in the nuts when you come near it, and say GO AWAY.

thats what im saying
put up a barrier, to stop them from accesing anything, so you can work privately, without players gaining any type of unfair advantage, without them seeing your work, etc.

and maybe a little PR would help your server out more?

The barrier they (UC PWs) have is, kicking you off. No need for you to see it. If you don't like it Captain, don't type it in then.

psst...your ignorance is showing.

I'm well capable of dealing with people. But as Konidias already put it, its easier to stay on task without them :) So just shut up and mind your own business, ok?

Re: Hidden Worlds
 

Yeah, EG's cool because it doesn't disconnect you; it justs asks you for something you don't have. :D

Btw, Rudora doesn't have that script put in place.

1. Koni, why are you still workin on Oasis, one should think that you should be concentrating on that job that they pay you for.

2. Warcap shutup, we all know you try and get on every server so you can steal their crap