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Jinx 07-03-2002 09:51 PM

Review : Cynical(Again)
 
This review is going to be short. If you would like a more detailed review, please dig back a page or two on the forum and find my old review of it, it hasn't changed a whole ton.

Creativity - 9
This is all pretty much the same as last review, but I found a few more jobs, none of them being your typical "press D a million times and get a rupee" jobs, they're a little more interesting than that, I think.

Levels - 6.5
A little up from the last review, it looks like a few levels have been fixed up since the last review, and look a bit better.

NPCs - 7.5
I don't think they have a problem with NPCs. =)

Storyline - 6
Nice Storyline, not very consistant with it though.... after the opening intro I can't find much more that ties into the storyline.

Quests - 8
I have been told where all the quests were, and looked at them. I like them, a little more than just hacking through a million baddies =)

Overall - 37 out of 50

Cynical's Status: Pass

Good job Cynical team, hope it passes the review of whoever it goes to next.

-Jinx

Lao_Su2 07-03-2002 09:53 PM

Yay yay
First PW passed in a long time and its one that i worked on 0.o scary:D

albus777 07-03-2002 09:54 PM

Cool, maybe a new playerworld :)

Sir_Gareth 07-03-2002 09:54 PM

Dont give it to Urizen

Zolrieg 07-03-2002 09:54 PM

Sounds good. I can't wait. :)

nyghtGT 07-03-2002 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
Dont give it to Urizen
Wolf: god stfu, I dont see you in the PW Reveiw team so stop complaining about Uri.

Sir_Gareth 07-03-2002 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nyghtGT

Wolf: god stfu, I dont see you in the PW Reveiw team so stop complaining about Uri.

what difference does that make

brock128 07-03-2002 10:01 PM

YAY PASS! MEGADANCE 4 U!
Good luck with the other two.

jeff335 07-03-2002 10:09 PM

Au contrare, I think it SHOULD be given to Urizen at some point. Yes, he's a stuffed shirt, but if it doesn't go through at least one really stuffed shirt we'll have another UN or Maloria.

Lao_Su2 07-03-2002 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeff335
Au contrare, I think it SHOULD be given to Urizen at some point. Yes, he's a stuffed shirt, but if it doesn't go through at least one really stuffed shirt we'll have another UN or Maloria.
Trust me this server is nothing like Maloria. I didnt pay Jinx to apss the PW and then offer him a job *gives Jinx Hush money*
and the staff list is not corrupt trust me heh. The staff list includes
---
Panda
Booj
Stukeyman

I c no coruption there =\ but think whatever u want. I wouldnt mind if it went to Urizen i think that if it passes by him then it will deserve to get up :D

iniquitus 07-03-2002 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
Dont give it to Urizen
In order for a PW to get online it needs to pass each reviewer. If it fails any reviewer, it fails.

Once the reviewers are done with it, either myself, or Nemesis must give it the o.k. In other words, I will eventualy see it. If it's good, it'll go up...

Anyway, I'm done arguing with you as it seems your inteligence level is that of a chimp.

Urizen :p

Jinx 07-03-2002 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iniquitus


In order for a PW to get online it needs to pass each reviewer. If it fails any reviewer, it fails.

Once the reviewers are done with it, either myself, or Nemesis must give it the o.k. In other words, I will eventualy see it. If it's good, it'll go up...

Anyway, I'm done arguing with you as it seems your inteligence level is that of a chimp.

Urizen :p

=/ I don't like that system, it has to pass all three reviewers, then you and Nem.... Don't you think that's a little too much?

I think it should ethier have to pass one reviewer, then it goes to you, then to Nem,

Or it should have to pass 2 reviewers, then you or nemesis.

-Jinx

CyberX 07-03-2002 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lao_Su2

Trust me this server is nothing like Maloria. I didnt pay Jinx to apss the PW and then offer him a job *gives Jinx Hush money*
and the staff list is not corrupt trust me heh.

Sorry Panda but you're mistaken...
We did not pay Hawk to pass our PW...
I will explain it again and for the last time... I don't know why Hawk deleted the server once but anyway I will explain...
I sent it to Psyker, not to Hawk... Psyker was having some other problems in his life then HE sent it to Hawk to review because he had no time...
Hawk reviewed it and passed (Maloria passed by Hawk, Psyker and Stefan), and the reason about passing Maloria was because everything worked offline, so he could check the whole server potential... I didn't even talk to him before that... And after the Playerworld became public, I INVITED HIM TO BE STAFF on Maloria... and he accepted...
That's all... He did not ask me to be staff there... :o
You people can think that Maloria is a crap but it is not... We are redoing alot of things... And the major problem was that many things that were working fine when we were private, did not work when we became public... Stefan knows that... That's why he says that Maloria is cool, because he saw the whole server...

I know we have alot of things to improve like the tileset, but we are already doing that...
Brett screwed up the server uploading a new overworld... ugly one...
But now Maloria only can improve in my hands, and I'm also hiring a new staff since Geovanie and Gastly quit...
So if you do want to check how the server is, just log on, get the new tileset and talk to me if you're interested in getting a job there...
Thank you :)

Lao_Su2 07-03-2002 10:59 PM

I am sorry i must not have read that thread :D I apologize and take back all my comments :)

CyberX 07-03-2002 11:02 PM

Ok, no problem man :)
You say that because you heard what people comment... But they say things that they don't know...
They don't even know the real fact... And take their conclusions...
That's what piss me off... :o

vovavziggy 07-03-2002 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CyberX


Sorry Panda but you're mistaken...
We did not pay Hawk to pass our PW...
I will explain it again and for the last time... I don't know why Hawk deleted the server once but anyway I will explain...
I sent it to Psyker, not to Hawk... Psyker was having some other problems in his life then HE sent it to Hawk to review because he had no time...
Hawk reviewed it and passed (Maloria passed by Hawk, Psyker and Stefan), and the reason about passing Maloria was because everything worked offline, so he could check the whole server potential... I didn't even talk to him before that... And after the Playerworld became public, I INVITED HIM TO BE STAFF on Maloria... and he accepted...
That's all... He did not ask me to be staff there... :o
You people can think that Maloria is a crap but it is not... We are redoing alot of things... And the major problem was that many things that were working fine when we were private, did not work when we became public... Stefan knows that... That's why he says that Maloria is cool, because he saw the whole server...

I know we have alot of things to improve like the tileset, but we are already doing that...
Brett screwed up the server uploading a new overworld... ugly one...
But now Maloria only can improve in my hands, and I'm also hiring a new staff since Geovanie and Gastly quit...
So if you do want to check how the server is, just log on, get the new tileset and talk to me if you're interested in getting a job there...
Thank you :)

Lies.

GraalBR 07-03-2002 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CyberX


Sorry Panda but you're mistaken...
We did not pay Hawk to pass our PW...
I will explain it again and for the last time... I don't know why Hawk deleted the server once but anyway I will explain...
I sent it to Psyker, not to Hawk... Psyker was having some other problems in his life then HE sent it to Hawk to review because he had no time...
Hawk reviewed it and passed (Maloria passed by Hawk, Psyker and Stefan), and the reason about passing Maloria was because everything worked offline, so he could check the whole server potential... I didn't even talk to him before that... And after the Playerworld became public, I INVITED HIM TO BE STAFF on Maloria... and he accepted...
That's all... He did not ask me to be staff there... :o
You people can think that Maloria is a crap but it is not... We are redoing alot of things... And the major problem was that many things that were working fine when we were private, did not work when we became public... Stefan knows that... That's why he says that Maloria is cool, because he saw the whole server...

I know we have alot of things to improve like the tileset, but we are already doing that...
Brett screwed up the server uploading a new overworld... ugly one...
But now Maloria only can improve in my hands, and I'm also hiring a new staff since Geovanie and Gastly quit...
So if you do want to check how the server is, just log on, get the new tileset and talk to me if you're interested in getting a job there...
Thank you :)

...all LIES

RavenTelvecho 07-03-2002 11:32 PM

Re: Review : Cynical(Again)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Jinx
This review is going to be short. If you would like a more detailed review, please dig back a page or two on the forum and find my old review of it, it hasn't changed a whole ton.

Im so helpful!
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=32450

Cid_Night 07-04-2002 12:17 AM

personally i think urizen's review was good. There are already a shitton of PW's and i think an "average" pw probably shouldnt pass, i like the idea of having to go through several reviews and with some very tough reviewers. A pw should be really really great to pass, it should have a good storyline, great quests, awesome scripting, sick levels, and interesting jobs and events. Personally i think the system is good how it is.

CyberX 07-04-2002 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GraalBR


...all LIES

Quote:

Originally posted by vovavziggy

Lies.

If you don't know what happened then don't say I'm lying because I'm not... :rolleyes: Only because you don't have arguments don't say I'm lying because I'm not...
Ask Stefan yourselfes... :asleep:

AlkarenHyralt 07-04-2002 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iniquitus


In order for a PW to get online it needs to pass each reviewer. If it fails any reviewer, it fails.

Once the reviewers are done with it, either myself, or Nemesis must give it the o.k. In other words, I will eventualy see it. If it's good, it'll go up...

Anyway, I'm done arguing with you as it seems your inteligence level is that of a chimp.

Urizen :p


I need to speak to him about that. I'd perfer it go by either Toran or Jinx, then if anything must be passed by either Nemesis or myself.

Torankusu 07-04-2002 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nyghtGT

Wolf: god stfu, I dont see you in the PW Reveiw team so stop complaining about Uri.

haha, I AM, and I AM complaining about him. :p

Torankusu 07-04-2002 12:56 AM

I don't exactly like this new system where we have to keep passing it on.

About 5+ people/playerworlds have already avoided it and just sent it straight to stefan. It wouldn't be fair for the unknowing people to not have the same privledge.

iniquitus 07-04-2002 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt



I need to speak to him about that. I'd perfer it go by either Toran or Jinx, then if anything must be passed by either Nemesis or myself.

It may have alredy changed, I haven't had a chace to speak with Nem yet, but as far as I know he initialy wanted a PW to go through each reviewer, and either himself or myself. If I worded it like it needed to go through both myself an Nem sorry about that. If you and Nem decide that you want to take care of it yourselfs then thats fine.

The plan was 2-3 people review it, then if it passes it goes to an Admin who does a quick check, and decided weather the submitter is able to properly run a playerworld and it's chances of sucess etc.

As for fairness, I'm still trying to work things out. Stefan and Unixmad want people to take care of things, make, and enforce rules, yet they let players go arround them by seeing them directly. For any staff position to really work properlyon Graal they will need to start sending people to the right person when they are approached; e.g. if someone sends Stefan a PW asking to put it up, Stefan should say "Go through the Review process like everyone else." because if he sais "OK." then nobody goes through the process anymore, and everytime we try to enforce a rule the players scream bloody murder. :(

As for all the dissaproval with myself, I don't belive I've done anything to deserve it, but I'm not sure if my job still exsists so you all may get your wish. I haven't done much because I don't have the ablity to.

Thanks :(

Urizen :confused:

Brad 07-04-2002 03:50 AM

Oh neat. Whys urizen in charge of the pw team though? He's well...I dunno. I'm not in the mood to fight right now so let me keep my mouth shut.

ParadiseAdmin3 07-04-2002 03:53 AM

I never believe what CyberX says. He's that smart guy who mess up things in Dino Valley and got away from it...

Jinx 07-04-2002 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
Oh neat. Whys urizen in charge of the pw team though? He's well...I dunno. I'm not in the mood to fight right now so let me keep my mouth shut.
I'm still not understanding how Urizen got picked to be the Asst PW Admin instead of Torankusu..

-Jinx

Brad 07-04-2002 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jinx


I'm still not understanding how Urizen got picked to be the Asst PW Admin instead of Torankusu..

-Jinx

YOU or TORANKUSU damnit

Urizen is just dumb.

Waltz5 07-04-2002 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jinx


I'm still not understanding how Urizen got picked to be the Asst PW Admin instead of Torankusu..

-Jinx

Ya, or you... seriously.

But otherwise, congrats to Cynical and I hope they pass the stages to come.

Graal518 07-04-2002 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vovavziggy

Lies.

Quote:

Originally posted by Jinx
I'm still not understanding how Urizen got picked to be the Asst PW Admin instead of Torankusu..

-Jinx


Jinx 07-04-2002 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad

YOU or TORANKUSU damnit

Urizen is just dumb.

Torankusu has been around a LOT longer than me and has done a lot more than me. He has more experience than me, and deservers PW Asst Admin more than me.

-Jinx

ParadiseAdmin3 07-04-2002 04:18 AM

Maybe Urizen is a buddy of Nemisis I think (maybe not true im stupid xD)

Lao_Su2 07-04-2002 07:21 AM

Lmao all you pssh
I dont agree how he was chosen but i agree with him being ast just live with it :(

DarkHero2002 07-04-2002 09:18 AM

who is the owner x.x

johndenver04 07-05-2002 12:44 AM

*over welmed with joy!

johndenver04 07-05-2002 12:46 AM

I'M THE OWNER!!! Wow i hope it passes the other playerworld team members :(.

zrpgp2p 07-06-2002 05:54 AM

Its funny how a review becomes a huge arguement, same goes with every other topic. Anyway, good luck Cynical. :)

brock128 07-07-2002 10:02 AM

RE-REVIEW IT ALREADY

Torankusu 07-07-2002 11:31 AM

Oh, yes. My turn, I suppose.

I won't be able to review it until after tuesday - wednesday.
HOPEFULLY I will have my computer back.


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