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FatherDante 03-18-2001 08:48 AM

As you all should know, when you sign up for an account you are required to accept the terms detailed in the service agreement. By accepting these terms, you are legally responsible if you fail to maintain them, and your contract with Cyberjouer and its holders is terminated, so they are no longer responsible for providing service to you.

So, what's up with pking staff? Here's the real deal. The one rule given explicitly about pking staff is in the GP handbook, which is not part of the License Agreement. It says that GPs may jail a player for killing a GP. However, there are no GPs on the 2001 server. So, technically, you have the right to pk anyone on the 2001 server.

There's a catch, though. Jailing is not a denial of the service outlined in the contract. So, any action can be considered a grounds for jailing a player; if a staff member jails you for no reason, you have no claim against them- but you should, nonetheless report them.

Personally, I consider it a simple matter of courtesy to not pk ET while they're doing staff, admins while on duty (as rare as that is), Stefan, or Unixmad. Killing them is simply rude.

Lyndzey8000 03-18-2001 08:55 AM

I agree with you. You are allowed to PK staff, but you can get sent to jail. Jail was made for PKers, so if a PKer killed anyone, they are supposed to go to jail. So you can PK staff, but you can get sent to jail

Lycia 03-18-2001 09:10 PM

But on that same token, I don't think that staff members should be PK'ing players, and I've heard reports of that happening.

I don't like it.

I also don't like the fact that peoples are swearing in the game. Thats in the personal conduct policy that you agree to when you get an account.

Lyndzey8000 03-18-2001 09:34 PM

Staff could PK, but only when they aren't on duty. The only time I PKed when I was trying to kill someone with a name that was unacceptable. Swearing should be a rule that you can get sent to jail for, they need to make like a filter system.

FatherDante 03-18-2001 10:13 PM

I think staff shold pk whenever they want. But, of course, ET shouldn't pk while doing events, and admins shouldn't pk while on duty (as rare as that is).

Stefan and Unixmad can pk whenever they want, I guess. :)

Lycia 03-18-2001 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
I think staff shold pk whenever they want. But, of course, ET shouldn't pk while doing events, and admins shouldn't pk while on duty (as rare as that is).

Stefan and Unixmad can pk whenever they want, I guess. :)

No, staff should not PK whilst under their tag. If they wanna PK, they should remove their tags and go nuts. Not until then.

FatherDante 03-18-2001 10:16 PM

Argh, for the love of God, once if fine, twice acceptable, but please don't make a habit of it; whilst is archaic, it's use is completely incorrect.

Crono Illusion 03-19-2001 01:10 AM

There was a playerworld I was on a while ago that had an NPC called the "Profanity Stopper" or something like that. Anytime you said something potentially offensive, it took away a heart.

Lion'el-Jonson 03-19-2001 02:36 AM

hehe cool!

Pago 03-19-2001 02:42 AM

Heh... but Graal doesn't need language filters. It just needs a better administration system. Potential GPs should get tons of recommendations, as well as an interview. It sickens me to see hackers rise above everyone else because they suck up.

If Graal 2k1 had 5 Staff members on every day who answer to hacker/cheater/harasser reports and make the right decisions, the game would be 5x better.

"Hit the road, Jack, and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more". :D

BruceLee2000 03-19-2001 02:44 AM

Instead we have (Police) who just use their warpto command like there is no tomorrow

manton 03-19-2001 02:54 AM

=/

03-19-2001 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceLee2000
Instead we have (Police) who just use their warpto command like there is no tomorrow
Couldn't of said it better.

FatherDante 03-19-2001 07:04 AM

[cries] Ice Pick just gave away the 5000 gralat he got illegitemately! The economy is screwed over for good!

Pago 03-19-2001 07:29 AM

Heh... if a player comes on with the s/n George W. Bush and replaces Stefan as head admin, we're definately in trouble :eek:

Psyker 03-19-2001 07:38 AM

Quote:

[cries] Ice Pick just gave away the 5000 gralat he got illegitemately! The economy is screwed over for good!
NOOOOO!!!!!!

Crono Illusion 03-19-2001 08:16 AM

Maybe Ice Pick IS George W. Bush, and is slowly plotting to take over Graal.

FatherDante 03-19-2001 08:42 AM

Nah, George Bush is a politician, he knows how to mess with people. Ice Pick is in no way an angler, why do you think everyone hates him?

freddyfox 03-19-2001 09:51 AM

Icepick is another one of Er1c's intelligent evil NPC's plotting to take over the world! ToT MUST BE STOPPED!

Lycia 03-19-2001 09:53 AM

My magic 8ball has more brains than Icepick.

Nai 03-19-2001 10:31 AM

my brain has more brain then Icepick. By 100% Plat-E-Num!

Lycia 03-19-2001 10:34 AM

Icepick has no brains.

Nai 03-19-2001 10:34 AM

excaclty

vergil 03-19-2001 10:42 AM

how we should control swearing:

F1 Help > Options >
+------------------+
[ x ]|Filter swearing |
+------------------+

Lycia 03-19-2001 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vergil
how we should control swearing:

F1 Help > Options >
+------------------+
[ x ]|Filter swearing |
+------------------+

Yeah, thats a good idea, but then we'd have idiots trying to get around it to offend peoples.

Like, for "***got" they would say phaggot or ***it or ***et etc.

03-19-2001 11:27 AM

Well Lycia, that is how idiots like Welly and Twiztid Juggalo spell it normally. :(

Lycia 03-19-2001 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deadly_PK
Well Lycia, that is how idiots like Welly and Twiztid Juggalo spell it normally. :(
Hahahaha, true, true.

FatherDante 03-19-2001 01:32 PM

Ice Pick is no idiot, hes just a little self centered.


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