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brock128 05-11-2002 08:37 AM

Who here is sick of the fact...
 
..That all these PW projects are being started, and none are finished? I know PWs take a while, but there are WAY too many. And a bunch of not-so-good ones out there, The PW team hasn't put up a PW in a LONG time...

Qwert616 05-11-2002 08:39 AM

Maloria should be up soon



Edit: Oh, project face lift is coming on Doragon Koden

Jinx 05-11-2002 08:41 AM

Re: Who here is sick of the fact...
 
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Originally posted by brock128
..That all these PW projects are being started, and none are finished? I know PWs take a while, but there are WAY too many. And a bunch of not-so-good ones out there, The PW team hasn't put up a PW in a LONG time...
Good PWs take time, you can't rush them.

Maybe the PW team hasn't put up a PW in awhile because none were good enough? Would you like to see a million boring horrible PWs up?

-Jinx

G_yoshi 05-11-2002 08:48 AM

Re: Who here is sick of the fact...
 
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Originally posted by brock128
..That all these PW projects are being started, and none are finished? I know PWs take a while, but there are WAY too many. And a bunch of not-so-good ones out there, The PW team hasn't put up a PW in a LONG time...
For something like an RP world/server, how could you ever expect it to be finished when it's a constantly changing world?

Jinx 05-11-2002 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


For something like an RP world/server, how could you ever expect it to be finished when it's a constantly changing world?

That's a fact too. Graal has been changing a lot lately, it's hard to keep current sometimes.

-Jinx

CyberX 05-12-2002 12:16 AM

Maloria passed in the review 2 weeks ago...
Stefan said it will be up soon...

Zolrieg 05-12-2002 11:42 AM

Re: Who here is sick of the fact...
 
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Originally posted by brock128
..That all these PW projects are being started, and none are finished? I know PWs take a while, but there are WAY too many. And a bunch of not-so-good ones out there, The PW team hasn't put up a PW in a LONG time...
uh huh, just think how much talent is lost and all the good staff that had all their time and talent wasted, no wonder there's hardly anyone good left.

Milkdude99 05-12-2002 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by Jinx


Good PWs take time, you can't rush them.

Maybe the PW team hasn't put up a PW in awhile because none were good enough? Would you like to see a million boring horrible PWs up?

-Jinx

I agree, it's like Players submitting Houses and constantly asking when they will be up ..... and they are the worse levels you have ever seen....its a good way to ruin a PW by putting up crap...same goes with Graal DON"T PUT UP CRAP! only put up the best to ensure the quailty of the Game...

brock128 05-18-2002 05:16 AM

I agree with you all. People are NOT putting up enough effort. I realize that good PWs take time, but there are many projects started, and few finished. Those that are were just rushed. It's quite silly.

Dustey4Ever 05-18-2002 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by brock128
I agree with you all. People are NOT putting up enough effort. I realize that good PWs take time, but there are many projects started, and few finished. Those that are were just rushed. It's quite silly.
Renegade has a few staff who constantly ask when will we send in and theynever contribute -_- It is getting very annoying even when the owner wants to turn in something that is not finished and will never get put up yet:(

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
DON"T PUT UP CRAP!

brock128 05-19-2002 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by Dustey4Ever


Renegade has a few staff who constantly ask when will we send in and theynever contribute -_- It is getting very annoying even when the owner wants to turn in something that is not finished and will never get put up yet:(


Be stricter. Tell them to contribute or be fired. That's my opinion.

Evildred144 05-19-2002 12:41 AM

I heard Stefan couldnt put any new pws up till graal2k2 was released >.<

shavomombetto 05-19-2002 01:02 AM

due to the fact that alot of servers that are up now don't even meet the qualifications anymore of the Rules to get a playerworld up, I think that the PW Team now look for something better than what is already up.

Xerphier Dintch 05-19-2002 01:38 AM

How can you expect them to finish, when the averege 'pw owner' is an idiot?

Milkdude99 05-19-2002 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by Xerphier Dintch
How can you expect them to finish, when the averege 'pw owner' is an idiot?
Maybe that is why there needs to be "requirements" to being an PW Owner.. Making Levels is one thing managing a PW is another.... and much more difficult than submitting levels to be reviewed by the PW Admin...

Milkdude99 05-19-2002 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by brock128

Be stricter. Tell them to contribute or be fired. That's my opinion.

I agree , being on Staff requires work on their part to remain so , no work no job...

Dustey4Ever 05-19-2002 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by brock128

Be stricter. Tell them to contribute or be fired. That's my opinion.

its not there job, the owner got smart:rolleyes: and hired a ET admin and a useless staff admin:rolleyes: they constantly ask when will it be done?

nyghtGT 05-19-2002 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
I agree, it's like Players submitting Houses and constantly asking when they will be up ..... and they are the worse levels you have ever seen....its a good way to ruin a PW by putting up crap...same goes with Graal DON"T PUT UP CRAP! only put up the best to ensure the quailty of the Game...
Wolf: That's pretty rich coming from the owner of n-pulse. I last tryed out for LAT there, I was late so I didnt get hired... but now I'm LAT Chief on providence. Sure were UC alot of the time but our 5 levels are like 20 of your "levels". It seems your contridicted what you just said. Considering I have seen Osiris player house which is 1 level away from the main part of np and it is the worst thing I have ever seen. Just some advice, dont just lay anything everywhere, which is what I have noticed.

Psyker 05-19-2002 03:33 AM

I wonder which job is harder; my job, or being a PW owner...

phrost-byte 05-19-2002 04:40 AM

Heh, yea, time's have been changing in graal. That's the main reason that I have never actually completed any of my PW's. I've started about 5 already. One at a time, and then decideing to remake the whole world because it took so long to complete; that the level's were'nt up to date. Hehe, what a waste of my life =/.

Milkdude99 05-19-2002 04:44 AM

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Originally posted by nyghtGT

Wolf: That's pretty rich coming from the owner of n-pulse. I last tryed out for LAT there, I was late so I didnt get hired... but now I'm LAT Chief on providence. Sure were UC alot of the time but our 5 levels are like 20 of your "levels". It seems your contridicted what you just said. Considering I have seen Osiris player house which is 1 level away from the main part of np and it is the worst thing I have ever seen. Just some advice, dont just lay anything everywhere, which is what I have noticed.

The Lat Chief hires and that is up to him, as for some of the Houses , some were left on from when Geo had it and some were put up by the Lat Chief at the time, true I let them contol the player houses and what to put up without reviewing them, and some of them are not exactly something I would have put up , I am very harsh on houses and prolly would not let 99% of what I have seen go up , that is why I let the Chief do it because I may be too picky on them. I normally don't slam other player worlds on their levels , but as for you are "Lat Chief of Providence" your statement is odd comming from a PW that has been accused of "stolen GFXs and levels"

Levels are a matter of personal taste , what you may consider Good , I may not and vise versa... as long as they are done well and no errors on them .... It boils down to a matter of taste.

Milkdude99 05-19-2002 04:48 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker
I wonder which job is harder; my job, or being a PW owner...
LOL anyone in there right mind wouldn't want either of them...:p

Darlene159 05-19-2002 04:56 AM

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Originally posted by nyghtGT

Wolf: That's pretty rich coming from the owner of n-pulse. I last tryed out for LAT there, I was late so I didnt get hired... but now I'm LAT Chief on providence. Sure were UC alot of the time but our 5 levels are like 20 of your "levels". It seems your contridicted what you just said. Considering I have seen Osiris player house which is 1 level away from the main part of np and it is the worst thing I have ever seen. Just some advice, dont just lay anything everywhere, which is what I have noticed.


How about trying to critisize without saying how much better you are....Everyone makes mistakes. Our EX-LAT Chief put osiris's house up, and it isnt as bad as you say either, I have seen much much worse. Hmm, I think when people do a tryout for a job, it usually has a deadline, and its not like people didnt have plenty of time either. How many playerhouses have you seen put on npulse lately? Very darn few.
Try to remember, people make mistakes, even you, just because something got put on that maybe shouldnt have or whatever, doesnt mean its a terrible playerworld unless they just keep doing it. I hope you do well on Providance

Psyker 05-19-2002 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
LOL anyone in there right mind wouldn't want either of them...:p
I guess I wasn't in the right frame of mind when I accepted this job, then :)

Or when I was the GM of Mithica :p

Darlene159 05-19-2002 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker

I guess I wasn't in the right frame of mind when I accepted this job, then :)

Or when I was the GM of Mithica :p


noone realizes how hard your position, or anyones position is until they have been there....if they did, maybe they wouldnt be so quick to critisize

brock128 05-19-2002 06:57 PM

Oddly, I want Psyker's job. Then I can point and la- erm, help him review bad playerworlds.

Milkdude99 05-19-2002 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by Psyker

I guess I wasn't in the right frame of mind when I accepted this job, then :)

Or when I was the GM of Mithica :p

You know no matter what we do its wrong and the players scream at us, they don't like this or that , you change it then its not good enough for some , it seems there is always a small group who doesn't like anything you do. Its depressing at times because it seems your efforts are wasted . projects requested and started and never completed ,so the players scream about that.....But once in awhile you get an email or someone PMs you in the Game and tells you what a great place you have and how much they enjoy playing your PW and for me , this is what keeps me doing it , because of the rocky road we have been up since getting Ownership of Npulse we have very little to be happy about.

phrost-byte 05-19-2002 11:41 PM

well said ^
moon, do ya 'member me.. 'knuckles'?

Milkdude99 05-20-2002 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by phrost-byte
well said ^
moon, do ya 'member me.. 'knuckles'?

Yep I do :D

brock128 05-20-2002 01:53 AM

Knuckles = Void? 'Zat you? Or am I thinking of the wrong Knuckles?


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