Regarding the Leadership of Samurai...
 

Ok as we all know, about a week ago Dustari attacked Samurai,
and placed Wing in charge as the Emperor. After that I formed a band of rebels, made up of old samurai, new people, and people who bleived in the cause, now the wagers set by Ghost Pirate were as follows if Wing is killed, I become leader and name someone to the throne, but if I am killed, Wing remains Emperor,
well Wing was assasinated, and I named Lyndzey as empress, now in order to please a few unhappy indaviduals, I named Icehawk as Emperor, becuase he was Wing's heir, and you know the first thing that happens, Ghost Pirate gives them tags, Icehawk removed my king flag, and makes Trueheat the Grand Emperor, now lets remember, I told Ghost Pirate I was leader, I never told him to give them king tag's, and the Emperor and Empress were just titles, and held no real power,
well Ghost Pirate wont answer any of my PMs, neither will just about anybody, I was kicked out of Samurai, and yes I am angry, and i have a reason to complain, I just lead a rebellion, was supposed to be leader, but instea power was given to other people, and I have less power then I had as a rebel!

Good god,

Learn, I am the emperor, you have NO place in my kingdom.

So you want power, is that all?

Let's see feivel... you have no reason to have any power in Samurai. You kill IceHawk's friend and my son, and you expect us to keep you as our co-leader ??

When 2002 will come out I am joining forests ..
The kingdoms right now are just ***!!
the forests will be a fresh and new kingdom they might get far..
thought I wonder who the emperor will be ..

Why dont you learn, I am supposed to be Shogun, I am supposed to be leader, I put you on the throne as Emperor so a few others would shut up, you were supposed to have no power,
We killed Wing, we won, you dont even deserve the throne,
I was benevolent and gave it to you

thank you so very much <3

You dont have to accept me,
the whole point of the rebellion was to take over,
and to throw out Wing from power,
and for me to be leader,
you and icehawk have no place in this,
and hijacked it from me

the shogun is not the leader of an empire

Guess ^_^

forest kingdom actually looks really awesome and I am looking forward to it a lot

shhh dont tell them that its me or ill beat you again.

BIRDBIRD
i need the samurai levels e-mailed to me

I killed a Rebel, and threw him into the river, I feel proud :D

in Olde Japan, the emperor was often a figurehead for a shogunatory militarism

Actually, it was. The Shogun was the highest rankiing official. by the time the Shogun came to power, the Emperor and Empress had no real power. Now, I lead a rebellion, win, im suppposed to be Shogun, and for some reason that eludes me, Ghost Pirate gives all power to Icehawk and Trueheat, and I am kicked out

Good, bye, go, shoo.

I only try to please everybody but that seems impossiable =(

Dashi/feivel talk with the new leadership if they so no its no

Oh. I thought shogun were just in charge of different peices of land around the country, and the emperor and empress were in charge of the whole country

Talk with the new leadership, they are not supposed to be the leadership, so obviously they will say no!
I won, remember the wagers, they have no right to be the leaders, and I am supposed to be the leaders, why do they have to give me permission, i was supposed to be leader, if they wanna be leaders I SHOULD HAVE TO GIVE THEM PERMISSION

The new leadership is the rightful leadership. IceHawk Ridgewing is like a son to me and Rinko is my granddaughter, meaning the kingdom is still in family's control.

Well then Trueheat you though wrong!
The Shogun was the supreme leader,
there were people called Diamyos, those were appointed BY the shogun and were in charge of clans and held specific provinces

feivel/dash/whatever: you were outsmarted and betrayed. It happens in societies. Your former ally tricked and betrayed you, gained power, and threw you out.

That is that.

END.

They are not the rightful leadership,
I had a rebellion, and in winning the rebellion, I am supposed to be leader, I appointed Rinko as the empress,
i really dont care about your hereditary line,
Im supposed o be leader

Thank you Crono.

How does the Shogun outrank The Emperor? Trueheat, who I think, started the thing used (realistic?) rankings? Why would any of the other two or three emperors change it?

Not anymore are you supposed to be.

You were outwitted and backstabbed. Things happen, live with it.

Reliko killed and declared that Lyndzey would be Empress, and IceHawk was emperor of my dying wish

A former ally betrayed me and threw me out?
No, a person who was not supposed to be leader threw me out.
Icehawk, and TrueHeat are not supposed to be leaders...

You made the mistake of making them Emperor(s), and thus giving them power. Your fault, live with it.

If I take over and kill you, the wholoe point is to end your dynasty, now your dying wish doesnt mean anything,
if your dynasty isnt supposed to be in control anymore is it?
wagers were set, your dynasty was supposed to lose control, and i was supposed to be leader!

I did not make Trueheat emperor, and I did not ive Icehawk power, I siad he could be Emperor, but I also said that the emperor and empress hold no power!

Wages made with a non-IC Admin do not count in an RPing world.

The moment you elect someone Emperor you are in no position to say they have no power.

Your right
Wagers just direct the way a RP can end...not the complete outcome

Well Dashi, I put out a price for your head.

If you do "kill" me, it better not be one of those stupid ones you did earlier.

That was your mistake. You said that he could be Emperor, and in our little roleplaying world, Emperor has the power, Shogun does not.

Stop dragging this pointless argument on, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.