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Admins 12-16-2001 12:51 PM

Complains about admins
 
Please don't post complains about admins here
on the forum, please send us emails or
forum PMs, but it is not really good to discuss
bans or problems with admins here.

There are several reason to loose admin powers
or get temporary banned, if people abuse powers
there must be some punishments (not only
if admins do it which you don't like). You will not
get anything done when you start 'riots' against
other players.

psihunter 12-16-2001 12:52 PM

Re: Complains about admins
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Please don't post complains about admins here
on the forum, please send us emails or
forum PMs, but it is not really good to discuss
bans or problems with admins here.

There are several reason to loose admin powers
or get temporary banned, if people abuse powers
there must be some punishments (not only
if admins do it which you don't like). You will not
get anything done when you start 'riots' against
other players.

Stefan please please please reply to my questions I sent about Kingdom's admin in forum pm =X

Vincent_TK 12-16-2001 12:53 PM

Why email and PM them when you never answer?

Admins 12-16-2001 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vincent_TK
Why email and PM them when you never answer?
I do
At least emails :/
Also I read & answer important PMs and emails often

Torankusu 12-16-2001 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan


I do
At least emails :/

Really?

AlkarenHyralt 12-16-2001 01:06 PM

I've pmed you several times and you never replied. :(

psihunter 12-16-2001 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
I've pmed you several times and you never replied. :(

Same here =X but more like once or twice for me =X

joeycmoore 12-16-2001 01:09 PM

Change your name to birdbird_0, konidias, or loriel. Then you might have some luck.

sac 12-16-2001 01:10 PM

in your pms say Stefan!!!Moiney duping bug or something like that

Brad_Elven 12-16-2001 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan


I do
At least emails :/
Also I read & answer important PMs and emails often

Hes good about emails. Hes responded to 2 out of 3 of mine in the past couple weeks and he was nice too :)

Thanks for not being an ass Stefan

James 12-16-2001 01:27 PM

Stefan usually answers my forum PMs unless it's something he doesn't want to talk about. :cool:

Brad_Elven 12-16-2001 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Stefan usually answers my forum PMs unless it's something he doesn't want to talk about. :cool:
you always know your cool if stefan answers ur PMs :rolleyes:

TrueHeaT 12-16-2001 01:32 PM

you used to always respond to my PMs but now you just ignore me :(

12-16-2001 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
you used to always respond to my PMs but now you just ignore me :(
thats because you havent contributed to the graal community for a while, make 4 tiles and maybe the Stefmeister could squeeze you in.

Kasuagi 12-16-2001 01:36 PM

Re: Complains about admins
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Please don't post complains about admins here
on the forum, please send us emails or
forum PMs, but it is not really good to discuss
bans or problems with admins here.

There are several reason to loose admin powers
or get temporary banned, if people abuse powers
there must be some punishments (not only
if admins do it which you don't like). You will not
get anything done when you start 'riots' against
other players.

you need to interview or set up an application and hire some new staff. this is getting out of hand, i'm tired of coming online and being harassed and watching people get away with things, just because some 'people' are lazy

your the only person i respect, along with a few other unamed staff, at least you do reply to e-mails and answer logical questions that pertain to the game

i paid for my p2p account so that i could play a server. not so i could argue with an admin or staff for 30 min. and then be ignored, not to have my account hacked and personal information exploited, not to listen to people mass about raping each other, terrorism, and massing obscene language. not that i find all of it offensive, but it doesn't set the mood for a nice gaming atmosphere. know what i mean?

Torankusu 12-16-2001 01:38 PM

xone wasn't any different...

Kasuagi 12-16-2001 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
xone wasn't any different...
are you talking about nishoku? i remember you being the game master and we tried to stop xone from being shut down, too bad... i really liked that server

Brad_Elven 12-16-2001 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kasuagi


are you talking about nishoku? i remember you being the game master and we tried to stop xone from being shut down, too bad... i really liked that server

i remember vik letting me play it on 1.28

Torankusu 12-16-2001 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kasuagi


are you talking about nishoku? i remember you being the game master and we tried to stop xone from being shut down, too bad... i really liked that server

Oh. Too bad nishoku was given a second chance and hadn't changed.

Psyker 12-16-2001 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan


I do
At least emails :/
Also I read & answer important PMs and emails often

stefan, define important :o

Kasuagi 12-16-2001 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
Oh. Too bad nishoku was given a second chance and hadn't changed.
i know, he requested that it be shut down and guess what? stefan shut it down, bah

oh well, i wouldn't want to own a playerworld now anyways. look at what is happening to the free servers

TrueHeaT 12-16-2001 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TDK_Admin2
thats because you havent contributed to the graal community for a while, make 4 tiles and maybe the Stefmeister could squeeze you in.
graal can use any of the graphics on my nice in-progress tileset.
and by graal i mean graal 2001. no playerworlds

Kasuagi 12-16-2001 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gspeed2000
Stefan, fire everyone and hire Mr. Bear to higher proper people. I can't take any of this and I am just realizing how badly managed Graal is.


Ps. Isn't Unixmad supposed to be in charge of management?

someone with intelligence, why was mr. bear fired anyways?

Sir Triclops 12-16-2001 02:21 PM

Stefan and Unixmad both have answered every single one of my PM's and e-mails.

T-Squad 12-16-2001 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
you used to always respond to my PMs but now you just ignore me :(
Yes same with me...it strange. I used to send an e-mail and get a reply an hour later, or a PM and when hes online 5 minutes later, and certaintly the next day. Now, never.

T-Squad 12-16-2001 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gspeed2000
Stefan, fire everyone and hire Mr. Bear to higher proper people. I can't take any of this and I am just realizing how badly managed Graal is.


Ps. Isn't Unixmad supposed to be in charge of management?

Idiot. Give some good suggestions :D

Fire all admins and hire professionals, or program a auto admin system which will eliminate all corruptness.

Problem solved.

Kasuagi 12-16-2001 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by T-Squad


Idiot. Give some good suggestions :D

Fire all admins and hire professionals, or program a auto admin system which will eliminate all corruptness.

Problem solved.

auto admin system, i like the sound of that!

Chrismas 12-16-2001 04:15 PM

stefan even answered my emails at one time.

Slaktmaster 12-16-2001 06:34 PM

function corruptactions() {
// Corrupt auto admin code goes here
}

this.corrupt = random(1,100);
if (this.corrupt>90) {
corruptactions();
}

konidias 12-16-2001 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gspeed2000
Stefan, fire everyone and hire Mr. Bear to higher proper people. I can't take any of this and I am just realizing how badly managed Graal is.


Ps. Isn't Unixmad supposed to be in charge of management?

If Mr. Bear was running things he would hire me back again since I talked with him yesterday and he congratulated me on getting the staff positions on 2k1, saying that I deserved them :)

Most of the hate or dislike of admins is because you don't understand our jobs and the ammount of work and pressure we are put under. Admins are not robots, and we can't always solve your problems.. you just take it more personally with us because we are online more then Stefan is so it gives you a chance to talk with us more. I get bothered on graal, graal forums, graal forum pm's, and even my instant messengers about things that I cannot fix or help fix. "Give me the 3000 I lost before the reset) I can't do that, I have no evidence you had 3k and if I went and gave you 3k, I would be a bad admin putting more money on the server when it was probably just a trick to get free money.

I don't think Loriel has ever banned anyone just because he dislikes them (although there have been a few occasions I believe he banned too quickly or unfairly)

I don't even want to think about the nasty letters people send to stefan about me. Saying "he sucks and he is lazy and he is corrupt and he is ugly and he is stupid and he is unfair..."

To be honest I'm not even sure I'm an admin, since I'm still just a level maker and graphics staff.. but with ftp, rc and nc. =/

Stefan please clear up what position I hold on the server so people will know what I do and not ask me things I can't help with.

habek 12-16-2001 08:11 PM

i sent email to stefan once and he replied :)

Mr. Bear 12-16-2001 11:30 PM

hmm.........
 
Hello Graalians,
I thought I would post to touch base on some of the subjects that have been posted here.

First off, I think Trueheat does contribute to the community enough to get a response from Stefan because he's on these boards starting threads that graalians take pleasure in and all through his numerous jobs at graalonline he has enhanced it tremendously. That's besides the fact that he did pay for his account and whether it be Stefan or any other admin they should answer him. ;)
Second, Stefan is a busy owner of a very popular game. Aren't there GM's such as Zorro and that hacker SnakeEyes that take complaints? See I thought "GAME MASTER" meant they are in charge of all that so Stefan could labor on his game.

Well thanks for giving an ear....

habek 12-16-2001 11:33 PM

Re: hmm.........
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bear
Hello Graalians,
I thought I would post to touch base on some of the subjects that have been posted about.

First off, I think Trueheat does contribute to the community enough to get a response from Stefan because he's on these boards starting threads that graalians take pleasure in and all through his numerous jobs at graalonline he has enhanced it tremendously. That's besides the fact that he did pay for his account and whether it be Stefan or any other admin they should answer him. ;)
Second, Stefan is a busy owner of a very popular game. Aren't there GM's such as Zorro and that hacker SnakeEyes that take complaints? See I thought "GAME MASTER" meant they are in charge of all that so Stefan could labor on his game.

Well thanks for giving an ear....

i never liked TrueheaT's thread's :<


becuz i dont understnd :P

LiquidIce00 12-16-2001 11:52 PM

Erm..
how about Nemesis.. he comes on my server and tells me how to run my staff. Like tells me that FAQ's dont need RC's and my GP's need level 3 rc's..
then his buddy NightFall comes and joins him ..
they both should go and do their job which is not tell me how to run my own server.
ok thx ^_^

Sjc2k1 12-16-2001 11:56 PM

yea well stefan answered my emails when they were about important things, like my accoutn got hacked. snakeeyes is always helpful and although u gotta annoy loriel for ages if u annoy him enough he'll ge bored and do things for you

DeathChill 12-16-2001 11:56 PM

Re: hmm.........
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bear
Hello Graalians,
I thought I would post to touch base on some of the subjects that have been posted here.

First off, I think Trueheat does contribute to the community enough to get a response from Stefan because he's on these boards starting threads that graalians take pleasure in and all through his numerous jobs at graalonline he has enhanced it tremendously. That's besides the fact that he did pay for his account and whether it be Stefan or any other admin they should answer him. ;)
Second, Stefan is a busy owner of a very popular game. Aren't there GM's such as Zorro and that hacker SnakeEyes that take complaints? See I thought "GAME MASTER" meant they are in charge of all that so Stefan could labor on his game.

Well thanks for giving an ear....

SnakeEyes hacks?

AlkarenHyralt 12-17-2001 01:26 AM

Re: hmm.........
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bear
and that hacker SnakeEyes
Since when is Snake a hacker?

Beowulf2 12-17-2001 01:38 AM

Re: Re: hmm.........
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt


Since when is Snake a hacker?

I dunno, but Mr. Bear used to be a hacker :p

Torankusu 12-17-2001 02:02 AM

Mr. Bear has no room to talk, actually.


SnakeEyes actually responds, whereas Mr. Bear didn't. I had to get the damn bugs admin to delete my account so I could recreate it.

Admins 12-17-2001 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gspeed2000
autoadmins are the stupidist things ever unless you program them perfectly. Otherwise they can screw up and do some really bad things like a currupt admin would
It's more about making things so that people don't need
admins to resolve the problems.


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