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Kamaeru 02-12-2016 05:40 PM

Why Thor's Classic is the Real Classic (scientific proof)
 
I first started thinking about this after hearing that there are people actually believing that Thor's Classic is not the authentic original Classic server. "There must be a way to settle this" is what I thought. Then I remembered there is a thought process invented by humans which separates us from animals and inanimate objects: science. The scientific method is often viewed as a flow chart in this order:

1 - Make an Observation
2 - Ask a Question
3 - Form a Hypothesis
4 - Conduct an Experiment (if successful skip step 5)
5 - Reject Hypothesis (return to step 3)
6 - Accept Hypothesis

Now I am going to make an observation about both Thor's Classic and Facebook/Android/iPhone Classic and I am going to put it through the scientific method, the results will determine which Classic is the real authentic original Classic server.

My Observation: Hours logged by players are recorded on the server.

My Question: are any of these hours logged the same hours which were logged by me when I first played Graal in ~1999?

My hypothesis: if my hours logged on Thor's Classic are still adding to the same counter today that the server was counting when I first played Graal, and Facebook Graal is logging a complete new set of hours, then Thor's Classic must be the same server that we all played Graal The Adventure on and so on. In this case any indication that the counter had been reset on Thor's Classic would indicate a restart disqualifying it from counting as the original Graal Main Classic server.

My Experiment: Hours my account has logged on Thor's Classic were 423. My account on Facebook Classic had only logged 2 hours.

Conclusion: Hypothesis Accepted. It is scientifically irrefutable that Thor's Classic server is the actual original official authenticated Classic server. The one that I played as an 11 year old. This other server is not the official Classic server.

ffcmike 02-12-2016 05:45 PM

You could just type in 'Classic' on the server list and see where it takes you...

(on a serious note I do not believe there is a debate to be had)

kia345 02-12-2016 10:06 PM

Observation: "classic" is defined by the presence of a soccer ball that I can kick around
Question: "is there a soccer ball on "thor's classic" that can be kicked around?"
Hypothesis: if I log onto the one true classic, there will be a soccer ball to kick around, any server without simply isn't classic
Experiment: I don't see one
Conclusion: I don't know where classic is or who this doppelganger is

Kamaeru 02-13-2016 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1738179)
Observation: "classic" is defined by the presence of a soccer ball that I can kick around
Experiment: I don't see one
Conclusion: I don't know where classic is or who this doppelganger is

Irrelevant Conclusion: if this criteria is used, then any server with a soccer ball to kick would be Classic. In that case Graal2001 and Kingdoms would count as Classic, along with most of the playerworlds that have ever existed.

kia345 02-13-2016 08:46 PM

modified observation: the amount of "classic" a server is is determined by the presence of soccer balls that I can kick around

Distorted 02-14-2016 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1738181)
modified observation: the amount of "classic" a server is is determined by the presence of soccer balls that I can kick around

I concur. Without the presence of a soccer ball, how could one measure the server's, "Classic"?

Kamaeru 02-14-2016 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1738181)
modified observation: the amount of "classic" a server is is determined by the presence of soccer balls that I can kick around

You're boldly trekking into the realms of pseudo-science now.

kia345 02-14-2016 05:36 PM

I'm putting out the hard hitting facts that the rest of you are afraid of

fowlplay4 02-14-2016 08:58 PM

classic was an inside job!

kia345 02-14-2016 11:25 PM

gs2 can't melt steel beams

BlueMelon 02-15-2016 06:08 PM

blame obama

Crono 02-15-2016 08:05 PM

good argument.

Sinkler 02-18-2016 11:23 AM

Please include hypothesis tests to ensure the accuracy of your assumptions. Please also take into account potential omitted variable biases which could bias your hypothesis. I would recommend including all variables (or as many as you can think of) to minimize this.

Kamaeru 02-21-2016 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinkler (Post 1738204)
Please include hypothesis tests to ensure the accuracy of your assumptions. Please also take into account potential omitted variable biases which could bias your hypothesis. I would recommend including all variables (or as many as you can think of) to minimize this.

I couldn't think of any relevant variables that I did not include. I tested my one hypothesis, so the only thing I could do further is come up with a myriad of other hypotheses to test. I'm not going to do that though because my original hypothesis concerning hours counted is the broadest variable possible (it effects all players, and also influences all other possible relevant variables). Any relevant variable that could be tested subsequently relies on the "hours logged" variable, thus making further testing fairly inconsequential whether the results are in favor of a bias or not.


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