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Fiberwyre_P2P 11-16-2011 06:56 PM

Dynamic Shop Prices
 
I was trying to think of a way for shops to be more dynamic, since the only thing that really changes about them is the number of guns in stock (and even then, it's pretty stagnant). So, this is what I came up with:

*If you don't want to read the whole thing, basically I just explain how a system to change the shop prices daily would work.
(and there's a spreadsheet at the bottom to look at.)

Shop prices vary +-1-5% (plus or minus one to five percent) every day at 12 servertime.

50% chance for +1-5%; 50% chance for -1-5%

Every time a gun is bought from the shop, +1% chance for +
Every time a gun is sold back, +1% chance for -

(As an example, Someone buys an FN2k from Fort Knox; there is now a 49% chance for +1-5%, and 51% chance for -1-5%)

Each time a gun is sold back to the shop, 1 of that type of gun is restocked.
(this doesn't have MUCH of an effect on the price, but It never made sense to me that those guns should disappear.)

Sellback value is equal to 75% of the current shop price
(as it is now, sellback values range from single-digit percents to in the 80% range)

The STARTING percent chances would be as follows, but would change over time:

30% chance for +-1%
25% chance for +-2%
20% chance for +-3%
15% chance for +-4%
10% chance for +-5%

Each time a +-x% is chosen, -1% chance for the +-x% and +0.25% chance for the other 4 x%s.

(As an example, let's say +-1% is chosen 3 times in a row. it would then have a 27% chance of being chosen, whereas +-2% would have a 25.75% chance, +-3% would have a 20.75% chance, +-4% would have a 15.75% chance, and +-5% would have a 10.75% chance; all still adding up to 100%)

This has a balancing effect in the long run, but in the first few weeks, 1% should remain dominant, leaving the prices to remain generally the same on a day-to-day basis, and leaves room for the market effects to kick in later.

I made a spreadsheet to illustrate this system which shows how a 100k gun would change prices each day for a month. The price ranges from 107% of the original price to 95% of the original price, but if that degree of variation is too little or too great, the numbers can easily be changed to increase or decrease the effect.

The link to the Spreadsheet on Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...mRUVlpqVkk4dlE

DDynasty 11-17-2011 10:42 AM

Wheres the ”like” button.

Scoper 11-17-2011 07:43 PM

Do you think this would help anything at all? It's all well-thought out, but, hmm

Draenin 11-17-2011 07:56 PM

Wouldn't you need to cap it at 5% and -5% though? Otherwise, the prices could get pretty ridiculous.

bloodykiller 11-17-2011 08:41 PM

this isnt rly a problem, the way u earn money on era (all boring as hell) is the real problem which has always limited era..there r more ppl playing zod which is terribly made cuz ppl can use their spells and wands and sword bull**** to kill **** to gain xp...they dont have to pick fkn flowers or go dig on the beach

bloodykiller 11-17-2011 08:43 PM

and who the **** mines in the 21st century???

RogueShatterblade 11-17-2011 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674480)
and who the **** mines in the 21st century???

Jade.

bloodykiller 11-17-2011 08:48 PM

mining has always been a job for women!

Fiberwyre_P2P 11-17-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoper (Post 1674475)
Do you think this would help anything at all? It's all well-thought out, but, hmm

Well I'm not sure how much it would help, but how much do radio stations help? XD

I think at the very least it would change it up a little.

It also introduces a new mechanic into merchanting, besides the standard buy just above the sellback, and sell at normal price or even higher.

at +-5% being the max it can go per day, it's not a game changer, meaning you can't buy a gun at a low point, and sell it back to the shop in a few days or a week and expect to make profit.

Just like the spreadsheet illustrated, even at the high point of 124k (24k above original price), the sellback of 93k is still lower than the lowest price of 96k, so there's no way to make money purely by watching the shop prices. However, if it was at +-10%, that could be a possibility :)

There's still added profit opportunity in merchanting to players, though.
like this:

>Buy a 100k gun at 96k from the shop
> Price goes up to 120k in a week
> sell to a player for 110k
> ?????
> Profit.

Also, I think that maybe if this ever did happen, it would be nice to see the gun's shop price and sellback value in the inventory window under the gun's stats.

Scoper 11-18-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P (Post 1674487)
Well I'm not sure how much it would help, but how much do radio stations help? XD

I think that was an independent project by repo and Zeus. But also, valid point, and also, idk I've never used it yet.


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