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bloodykiller 11-12-2011 09:13 PM

rewards for sparring
 
it has come to my attention (now) that there r 70ppl online and no1 wants to spar..it's 10mins im massing and toall:ing...it's not just a today thing it's basically that all new players (who've started playing in the last 2-3 years) never spar. this is prolly y the new players never end up being any good..sparring gets ur basics right and after a while u spar it becomes rly easy..i'm way better at raiding than i am at sparring but the fact ive done 8.8k spars in small and 9k spars in ranked, plus all the spars before the reset helps me be the best raider, even if at sparring im only 1 of the many good sparrers

why do ppl not spar anymore?
imo it's cuz sparring gives no rewards..ranked spar and small spar stats are useless, you don't even get money from kills in the spar complex and if ur sparring the same person multiple times or the same 2-3ppl, only the 1st time u kill them will count towards ur hp levels
this is y i think sparring should be rewarded in some way, like a spar shop to spend points on?

Emera 11-12-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674008)
it has come to my attention (now) that there r 70ppl online and no1 wants to spar..it's 10mins im massing and toall:ing...it's not just a today thing it's basically that all new players (who've started playing in the last 2-3 years) never spar. this is prolly y the new players never end up being any good..sparring gets ur basics right and after a while u spar it becomes rly easy..i'm way better at raiding than i am at sparring but the fact ive done 8.8k spars in small and 9k spars in ranked, plus all the spars before the reset helps me be the best raider, even if at sparring im only 1 of the many good sparrers

why do ppl not spar anymore?
imo it's cuz sparring gives no rewards..ranked spar and small spar stats are useless, you don't even get money from kills in the spar complex and if ur sparring the same person multiple times or the same 2-3ppl, only the 1st time u kill them will count towards ur hp levels
this is y i think sparring should be rewarded in some way, like a spar shop to spend points on?

Can't understand because of all the abbreviations.

WillaWonka 11-12-2011 09:36 PM

Luckily spar/events don't give deaths, i have had 1333 deaths for the past 2 weeks, still waiting for 1337 teehee

bloodykiller 11-12-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1674011)
Can't understand because of all the abbreviations.

oh im sorry bro..what mental disorder are you affected by? :(

DDynasty 11-12-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674008)
plus all the spars before the reset helps me be the best raider, even if at sparring im only 1 of the many good sparrers

Haha sike.

Scoper 11-13-2011 02:05 AM

I like the concept of adding spar rewards, but PLEASE GOD don't try to add ANOTHER type of point shop..

bloodykiller 11-13-2011 02:27 AM

oh i forgot to say u also have to pay for revives to spar...for me it isnt a problem but for many it is to spend 10$ every time they die+ammo

DarkRenji 11-13-2011 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674045)
oh i forgot to say u also have to pay for revives to spar...for me it isnt a problem but for many it is to spend 10$ every time they die+ammo

You don't need the revives to spar.


Also how would you stop people from boosting? Have spar mods like on UN?

bloodykiller 11-13-2011 03:28 AM

u do or u have to go to hosp every time

DarkRenji 11-13-2011 03:46 AM

That doesn't mean you "need" them, that just means they help with convenience.

dude2020 11-13-2011 04:24 AM

lol point shops, they're so dumb if not used correctly.

salesman 11-13-2011 04:51 AM

rewards have been the death of Era

Supaman771 11-13-2011 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674016)
oh im sorry bro..what mental disorder are you affected by? :(

Having difficulty reading poorly written posts with non-existent grammar and few actual words?
Mental Disorder.

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1674061)
rewards have been the death of Era

Give a dog a bone, and he will follow you begging for the rest of time.
I remember when you rarely got rewards for anything.. there was few events hosted and gangs didn't even have points.

Now people want compensation for everything; Pay me to kill people, Points/Rewards for me to raid, Pay me to spar, Give me rewards for helping my gang, etc. Pretty soon you'll have to give them mp5s just to login. (Already sorta happened yakno that whole dealio.)

bloodykiller 11-13-2011 06:59 AM

how do u guys not realise that era has such a low playercount since earning money is boring (i.e. mining, digging...). ppl play era to pk, and if u were to get money by pking as efficiently as other jobs way more ppl would actually raid or spar instead of idle at unstick and play chance..there would be raids all day if pking were to be the most effective way of making money

fowlplay4 11-13-2011 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674067)
how do u guys not realise that era has such a low playercount since earning money is boring (i.e. mining, digging...). ppl play era to pk, and if u were to get money by pking as efficiently as other jobs way more ppl would actually raid or spar instead of idle at unstick and play chance..there would be raids all day if pking were to be the most effective way of making money

The way you put it makes me wonder you even want money to be a part of the game at all.

Perhaps Era should just switch to a CoD model of gameplay and quit ****ing with the whole "economy" part of the game.

xnervNATx 11-13-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1674070)
The way you put it makes me wonder you even want money to be a part of the game at all.

Perhaps Era should just switch to a CoD model of gameplay and quit ****ing with the whole "economy" part of the game.

mp5 for everyone.


on a serious note, getting money for killing players? Not gonna happend.

WillaWonka 11-13-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1674072)
on a serious note, getting money for killing players? Not gonna happend.

You already get money for killing players... aside from you knowing that to begin with huh?

RogueShatterblade 11-13-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1674063)
Now people want compensation for everything; Pay me to kill people, Points/Rewards for me to raid, Pay me to spar, Give me rewards for helping my gang, etc. Pretty soon you'll have to give them mp5s just to login.

That's the story of our generation.

xnervNATx 11-13-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1674091)
You already get money for killing players... aside from you knowing that to begin with huh?

lemme fix that,

"getting more* money for killing player"


and i never pk so i wouldnt know

Gambet1337 11-13-2011 06:23 PM

wutttt give me an mp5 and ill log on

salesman 11-13-2011 06:30 PM

Thought that this was relevant:
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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1659206)
TBH, the fun of raiding with your friends and competing for the top of the leader-boards should be rewarding in itself. Era has become way too item-based. It's not enough to just have fun pking anymore, everyone expects some kind of payment in return.

Staff have been trying to sell new ideas by attaching prizes to them, so now prizes have become the norm: "Pay a kid to take out the trash, and he'll never do it for free again." It's like playing Era has become more of a chore than a game.

Most of Era's players are more interested in money and items than the actual gameplay. Maybe Era should just drop pking and make the game entirely based on making money.

Supaman771 11-13-2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1674101)
Most of Era's players are more interested in money and items than the actual gameplay. Maybe Era should just drop pking and make the game entirely based on making money.

Money wouldn't be a problem if you didn't need 300k to buy a decent gun.
Back when there was ~10 guns, money wasn't such a problem cause you could dig/mine for a day and buy the average or top weapon. (Maybe a week for a Gang Gun?)

Now it takes months to achieve the average weapon through conventional jobs since the price range has widened exponentially and the jobs have hardly been conformed to the new prices. (Mining was changed a tad, and worker potions were added.. spend money to make money..) Other than that, for people to actually get on-par with those of us using top weapons they need all the help/bonuses they can get.

And I believe since the raffles and corruption (free mp5s/tgs) and endless promises of updates/a reset people just would rather idle at unstick me, play chance, and wait till they get a free weapon/new update.

Pssh, if I didn't have a Mp5 I wouldn't spar either TK.
However I've been steamed the past few weeks and haven't played much at all after Alfonso introduced legal spawning (raffles) and gave away **** we worked years to obtain.

Just idling at unstick waiting for free stuff/updates now.

Emera 11-13-2011 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674016)
oh im sorry bro..what mental disorder are you affected by? :(

It's called grammar D:

bloodykiller 11-13-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1674107)
Pssh, if I didn't have a Mp5 I wouldn't spar either TK.
However I've been steamed the past few weeks and haven't played much at all after Alfonso introduced legal spawning (raffles) and gave away **** we worked years to obtain.

Just idling at unstick waiting for free stuff/updates now.



ur the perfect example of a player who isn't very good because he doesn't spar often
and u were so happy after the first raffle since u won something, ur such a hypocrit lmao

Emera 11-13-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674114)
ur the perfect example of a player who isn't very good because he doesn't spar often
and u were so happy after the first raffle since u won something, ur such a hypocrit lmao

Say again?

WillaWonka 11-13-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1674095)
and i never pk so i wouldnt know

Why would you comment on something you know nothing about then?

dude2020 11-13-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1674120)
Why would you comment on something you know nothing about then?

The same reason you keep posting.

DarkRenji 11-13-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1674120)
Why would you comment on something you know nothing about then?

She has probably played longer then you anyway lol.

xnervNATx 11-14-2011 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1674125)
She has probably played longer then you anyway lol.

dont have to prove anything to him anyway lol.

bloodykiller 11-14-2011 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1674125)
She has probably played longer then you anyway lol.



sadly more than half of era knows little about pking, regardless of how long they've been playing

TheJames 11-14-2011 06:20 AM

Dude TK.. I understand and can relate to your first sentence.. But I stopped reading after that.. Compile a paragraph that doesn't run together please ;[

Reps@Rogue for his "GIMME EVERYTHING" post. So true. All these newbs want **** nowadays.

RogueShatterblade 11-15-2011 03:11 AM

we might as well just close this forum, seriously.

Fiberwyre_P2P 11-16-2011 05:55 PM

How about every 5 spars you win, you get a free revive? ;P

jkldogg 11-17-2011 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P (Post 1674356)
How about every 5 spars you win, you get a free revive? ;P

Great idea.

TheJames 11-17-2011 07:04 AM

How about every win you get a free revive.. I'll ask Zeus if I can do it.

jkldogg 11-17-2011 09:22 AM

lul^

bloodykiller 11-17-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJames (Post 1674436)
How about every win you get a free revive.. I'll ask Zeus if I can do it.


that would be perfect, there would be less ppl at unstick and more ppl sparring
then it would also be nice to sell back the revives (maybe for like 8-9$ instead of 10?), so that amazing pkers like me dont have thousands of useless revives

btw if u cant understand abbreviations:
1. ur 12
2. u have a mental deficiency
3. ur a huge nerd who cant stand that normal ppl abbreviate

gravator 11-17-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674482)
that would be perfect, there would be less ppl at unstick and more ppl sparring
then it would also be nice to sell back the revives (maybe for like 8-9$ instead of 10?), so that amazing pkers like me dont have thousands of useless revives

btw if u cant understand abbreviations:
1. ur 12
2. u have a mental deficiency
3. ur a huge nerd who cant stand that normal ppl abbreviate


1. I'm 33 and do not understand many of the abbreviations players use on Zodiac or on any other game these days.

2. Thank you for noticing.

3. There is so much wrong with this one it's like dividing by zero, it should never have happened at all.


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