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bloodykiller 05-30-2011 11:49 AM

new gunz
 
I had quit era in 2006/2007 and came back about a year ago, noticing that now (1 year ago) era was way more fun!! eventbot, gang points, a LOT more ET's, more and better guns...the main reason was the fact that some guns required you to step up to a new level (souizen and mp5) since to use them effectively you would need to move quickly, and since they had low freeze and relatively high fire rate the reaction time in which you have to "press buttons" decreased, making it harder to pk effectively (most ppl ive lended mp5 navy to have gotten bashed by noob guns cuz they don't know where to start from)
now u noobs will say NO WTF MP5 IS A NOOB GUN, ALL U NEED TO DO IS HOLD D....but the real queston is..WHO THE **** LOSES AGAINST SOMEONE WHO IS HOLDING D?? do ppl REALLY hold D on this game? anyone with a bit of skill taps D even though he is firing at the maximum rate of fire of the specific gun
people on era r always nostalgic (no idea y), when i started playing it was only 3 years era had come out and everyone was like era sucks, 2002-2003 was way cooler, everyone is a noob now...and it's exactly the same now: no matter how era improves for u "oldbies" (most of u think ur cool cuz it's 10 years ur stuck on this game) era will always be worst than BACK THEN lol
ive sparred with the new guns, tg is clearly better than any other gun and there is still a big gap between top guns and cheap guns, only set on new statistical standards. for example now u cant buy deagles and know you have an effective gun for 40k (deagles used to be almost as good as BAR which used to be the best gun on the game together with Luger)
after sparring with the new guns i have realised that it basically limits u, u want to change direction quicker but u cant (un-skilled players don't know what i'm talking about, so don't bother replying). nothing is "less lame" than before since all guns have been nerfed, it's simply that using any gun requires less skill/is more boring to use
talking about the job wil did rebalancing the guns he noobishly didn't consider that fire rate (unlike freeze) works in .01s instead of .05s so now every gun is .15 or .2 or .25 or .3 etc... with no intermediates (fun huh?) it's also obvious that wil doesn't know gun prices (as i expected before he did the change) since there were dramatic price changes (i.e. PPSH, BMG and i won't go further cuz i gotta do some effective trading)
the funny thing u should know is that wil is the most penalised from this change (since he was used to quick-moving with Mp5, prolly the only person that would move faster than me)..i sparred him yesterday and it seemed like he had no skill anymore. well, enjoy not using .05 freeze guns, era will be like playing slow-mo now, i wonder how slow itll get now when ur drunk

WillaWonka 05-30-2011 03:21 PM

I fall asleep during spars nowadays cuz i gotta wait for each freeze shot to come back allowing me to shoot again its so FING ***, not saying that i lose all the time i still can handle it but before this change, reflexes were also a great deal apart of sparing, now you can be asleep and still flawless people if you time yourself, lol, time yourself, lolololooolol. Lag ****s on that timing conclusion, laglaglaglaglaglaglaglaglag, used to be if someone is lagging hardcore youd just spray and pray and hope he gets what he deserves for downloading pr0n while playing this. but anyways, i dont approve of this change, but who are we to say? wil didnt even ask the people as a whole to nerf all guns, ITS DICTATORSHIP I TELL YA!

Snake980 05-30-2011 03:23 PM

It'll just take some getting used to I guess :3

bloodykiller 05-30-2011 05:03 PM

it just makes era more boring..spars will take forever and i hate that

salesman 05-30-2011 05:03 PM

u mad cuz u cant hold d no more

WillaWonka 05-30-2011 05:08 PM

tbh guns used to be diverse and unique to say the least, only thing needed change was mp5 and guns of that like, but to do that, all guns needed to be nerfed z.z i say it isnt worth it, cause i have no wish to sell my gun now because the rest pretty much suck in comparison

Zeross 05-30-2011 05:22 PM

Hehe @ Sales.

Uh, before you rashly speak.
Since you all only care about your guns, personally.
The Angels (Dual) were due for an alteration anyway.
They were statistically out-of-wack for their pricing / purpose (In the old system).

Its odd, you two are making an argument while arguing with eachother.
Tk surely doesn't believe his Mp5 Navy should've been altered (in any standard).

Odd.

WillaWonka 05-30-2011 05:24 PM

I dont care about my Angel changes, they still fit in much higher than deagles, with .2 freeze, or p90 with .15 freeze and 15dmg, along with many other .15freeze 20dmg guns

Zeross 05-30-2011 05:26 PM

"I don't care about my Angels"... then soon after make an argument as to justify their placement. Hehe.

Herb_P2P 05-30-2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1652187)
u mad cuz u cant hold d no more

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ x1000000000000

hunterhunk 05-30-2011 08:33 PM

Tk you are the only person on the server who argues pking with a .05 freeze gun is harder than pking with a gun with .1 or w/e freeze. Honestly your argument, especially for you as a player is so wrong in many ways.

With an mp5 navy you can honestly run around, and if you can use strafe efficiently the gun will do all the work for you that you need.

The guns needed to be re-balanced, the guns were statistically way out of whack. Era should be a skill-oriented server, not a server where a gun can replace your ability to pk/spar.

With this re-balance it brings back tactic into pking and sparring.

It always takes time to adjust to new things, it just depends on if you allow yourself to adjust or you can complain and quit.... Nobody will miss you.

xTcDiabloxTc 05-30-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1652186)
it just makes era more boring..spars will take forever and i hate that

Sparring against you takes an eternity anyway with your 9000 ping and almost 200hp :asleep:.

bloodykiller 05-30-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1652187)
u mad cuz u cant hold d no more

(un-skilled players don't know what i'm talking about, so don't bother replying) <----

bloodykiller 05-30-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herb_P2P (Post 1652214)
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ x1000000000000

(un-skilled players don't know what i'm talking about, so don't bother replying) <----

bloodykiller 05-30-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1652223)
Tk you are the only person on the server who argues pking with a .05 freeze gun is harder than pking with a gun with .1 or w/e freeze. Honestly your argument, especially for you as a player is so wrong in many ways.

With an mp5 navy you can honestly run around, and if you can use strafe efficiently the gun will do all the work for you that you need.

The guns needed to be re-balanced, the guns were statistically way out of whack. Era should be a skill-oriented server, not a server where a gun can replace your ability to pk/spar.

With this re-balance it brings back tactic into pking and sparring.

It always takes time to adjust to new things, it just depends on if you allow yourself to adjust or you can complain and quit.... Nobody will miss you.



(un-skilled players don't know what i'm talking about, so don't bother replying)

bloodykiller 05-30-2011 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xTcDiabloxTc (Post 1652233)
Sparring against you takes an eternity anyway with your 9000 ping and almost 200hp :asleep:.

(un-skilled players don't know what i'm talking about, so don't bother replying) <----




oh and im actually even better with these new stats..pking is way easier and the gap between top guns and bottom guns is way bigger than before

Shadow5596321 05-30-2011 09:56 PM

Someone is hard quad posting.

xTcDiabloxTc 05-30-2011 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1652243)
(un-skilled players don't know what i'm talking about, so don't bother replying) <----




oh and im actually even better with these new stats..pking is way easier and the gap between top guns and bottom guns is way bigger than before

Never said you were bad, bro. Reading comprehension.

hunterhunk 05-30-2011 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1652242)
(un-skilled players don't know what i'm talking about, so don't bother replying)

If walling in spars and running away while pking/raiding is skill then I won't bother replying after this post.... Just saying

salesman 05-31-2011 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1652239)
(un-skilled players don't know what i'm talking about, so don't bother replying) <----

i'll flawless u with a single uzi noob

Supaman771 05-31-2011 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1652187)
u mad cuz u cant hold d no more

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1652276)
i'll flawless u with a single uzi noob

Pretty much summed up my argument as well.
Thanks Sales.

Robocop300 05-31-2011 04:21 AM

So,

who else found out that TK's tears are on sale now? They're known as the lubricant - Astroglide. Good for anal.

Zeross 05-31-2011 05:25 AM

PK TALK:
Why are you deeming people un-skilled? You're absolute garbage. Sheesh.

If you beg to differ, there's a simple way to settle it.
I feel you're terrible, you feel you have more skill than "skillet".

Betspar me for all your items. First to win 10 spars.
If you win, you request of me anything (all my items, or anything).

Fair enough?

bloodykiller 05-31-2011 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1652276)
i'll flawless u with a single uzi noob



lol? uve always sucked kid, i remember u running around dressed like a devil or something..u were always bothering gangs since u werent good enough to join

bloodykiller 05-31-2011 07:52 AM

i invite anyone to spar, anytime

Frankie9011 05-31-2011 11:14 AM

.05 Freeze guns are boring. You don't have to think when you shoot. Calculating every single shot, your enemies shots, and each others movements is what Era is all about.

The new guns are more fun and demand more skill from the user. If you don't like how it is, adjust or quit.

I've been an avid user of the neo rifle for a long time. I know how this style works. Missing shots up close with neo is just begging to get killed. It's a much more interesting approach to the unique gameplay Era possesses. Of course, most guns don't have the extreme freeze of the neo, they've just been lowered a tier. It's sad how much *****ing is going on when guns like the Ap0, Xm8 and AK had this kind of freeze pre-nerf but were completely viable.

Also.. I don't think your in the position to be picking fights with the likes of Wil. Unless you want dat ass spanked.

Robocop300 05-31-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie9011 (Post 1652339)
Also.. I don't think your in the position to be picking fights with the likes of Wil. Unless you want dat ass spanked.

Some people like getting their ass spanked, true story right TK?

bloodykiller 05-31-2011 06:44 PM

wil isnt that much better than me, i sparred him once yesterday and i won
anyways, these new gun stats adapt more to ur sparring style frank, whilst they go against sparring styles like mine or wil's

Venom_Fish 05-31-2011 07:17 PM

Forgets to mention I used a Core handgun (Offensively) against his million hp and he hung for dear life the entire spar.

Secondly, These guns in no way affect my style.
That is absolutely contradictory because I developed my style from heavier conditions than these.

Lastly, I've observed that the moment a solid sparrer enters the arena, you stop sparring.
And if I enter? rofl, You leave the arena entirely.

Balls up or shut up.

hunterhunk 05-31-2011 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1652372)
wil isnt that much better than me, i sparred him once yesterday and i won
anyways, these new gun stats adapt more to ur sparring style frank, whilst they go against sparring styles like mine or wil's

Can you seriously shut up? I'm tired of hearing you talk about how you're better than everyone, it's all you do... Nothing to show for your talk.

You have NO style whatsoever, I've sparred you a lot and honestly staying strafed and laming isn't a style at all.

Stop talking like you're something and just play the game. Nobody takes what you say seriously at all.

bloodykiller 05-31-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish (Post 1652381)
Forgets to mention I used a Core handgun (Offensively) against his million hp and he hung for dear life the entire spar.

Secondly, These guns in no way affect my style.
That is absolutely contradictory because I developed my style from heavier conditions than these.

Lastly, I've observed that the moment a solid sparrer enters the arena, you stop sparring.
And if I enter? rofl, You leave the arena entirely.

Balls up or shut up.

lol this is bull****!! i spar anyways always, if i stop sparring it's cuz i either have something else to do or im simply too laggy so i move to small spar

bloodykiller 05-31-2011 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunterhunk (Post 1652383)
Can you seriously shut up? I'm tired of hearing you talk about how you're better than everyone, it's all you do... Nothing to show for your talk.

You have NO style whatsoever, I've sparred you a lot and honestly staying strafed and laming isn't a style at all.

Stop talking like you're something and just play the game. Nobody takes what you say seriously at all.

umad??

Supaman771 05-31-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1652385)
umad??

See this button? (I circled it for you)
http://i54.tinypic.com/rbhaa0.jpg
Please learn to use it, you've double (even quad?) posted more than once in this single thread. Half the time with one word or completely nonsense responses.

Also, aside from all the 'omg I'm better than you even though I refuse to prove it'... the argument of '.05 freeze guns were fun' is hardly a valid point to change the stats back or whatever it is you want.

I could probably find better arguments in my bowl of cheerios.

oooooooooooo

bloodykiller 06-01-2011 03:18 AM

nrd

Knux 06-01-2011 03:55 AM

This is way too long to read. Especially when you spell guns like "gunz."

bloodykiller 06-01-2011 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1652470)
nrd

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Dragon551 06-01-2011 01:28 PM

I came here expecting a conversation about Gunz, but then I found out it's another Era thread by bloodykiller :(

bloodykiller 06-02-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1652544)
I came here expecting a conversation about Gunz, but then I found out it's another Era thread by bloodykiller :(

work on some updates instead of posting on forums, cuz all u seem to be doing is idling and delegating work to others (maybe due to your lack of skill/laziness?)..cuz so far it seems like era has gone backwards since you're co-manager

Vman13x 06-02-2011 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1652329)
lol? uve always sucked kid, i remember u running around dressed like a devil or something..u were always bothering gangs since u werent good enough to join

LOL sales lucifer

Anyways, most of the guns I like still so I don't mind the stats.

salesman 06-02-2011 05:25 PM

how come every time i try 2 spar u u run away and log off??


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