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Rave_J 05-12-2011 05:47 AM

So Whose Next
 
So whats going on with Gang/Business Admin ???

whose taking over that and steping up. i hope its somebody good this time

Herb_P2P 05-12-2011 06:40 AM

I'll take the job

bloodykiller 05-12-2011 06:44 PM

alf is deciding if to give me guns admin, gba or both

jkldogg 05-12-2011 08:47 PM

Probably me or wil.

Nvm, just me.

Arakonda 05-12-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jkldogg (Post 1649340)
Probably me or wil.

Why does he have to be black, you don't like Mexicans?

Supaman771 05-12-2011 10:12 PM

Alfonso said he was going to remove the Guns Admin position; I assume because the gun stats don't need to be changed, and any Admin with half a brain can regulate the stats.. just gotta change a few variables in most cases.

Don't know about GBA; all I know is:

1. No one would hire TK or Catmater.
2. If Wil were to be hired, Tig would cry and fire whomever is manager.
3. There aren't that many people qualified, that are also trustworthy/fit under this management. So he probably won't be announcing anyone soon.

Vman13x 05-12-2011 11:09 PM

As long as the person actually does something for gangs and businesses then I'll be happy.

xAndrewx 05-12-2011 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1649366)
Alfonso said he was going to remove the Guns Admin position; I assume because the gun stats don't need to be changed, and any Admin with half a brain can regulate the stats.. just gotta change a few variables in most cases.

Don't know about GBA; all I know is:

1. No one would hire TK or Catmater.
2. If Wil were to be hired, Tig would cry and fire whomever is manager.
3. There aren't that many people qualified, that are also trustworthy/fit under this management. So he probably won't be announcing anyone soon.

i vote you, because you da man!!!

salesman 05-13-2011 12:10 AM

can i b admin?

Rave_J 05-13-2011 02:26 AM

lol honestly idc who
as long as they auction a business so i can buy it

Herb_P2P 05-13-2011 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1649366)
2. If Wil were to be hired, Tig would cry and fire whomever is manager.


It's not like vulcan is on anyways so lets give it a shot?

MattKan 05-13-2011 03:21 AM

who's*

papajchris 05-13-2011 05:54 AM

Unless something has changed, I am the Temp Gang/Business admin, so if you have any support tickets - ill be responding to them.

TheLinkMan2002 05-13-2011 11:08 AM

yaaaa, give it to me or rogue!. i dont get why the manager doesn't control all of it themselves. at that point what is their actual purpose aside from bossing people around and taking credit for everyone else s work

Rave_J 05-14-2011 05:07 AM

i do beleave that business and gangs should be control by different department like level issue lat, owner being corrupt or not obeying the rules- pr
if theres a glitch-nat
decisions like price change or owner change ect player admin or admins and manager decisions

NightmareNight 05-14-2011 08:15 AM

i'll take the job chief

MiniOne 05-14-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1649615)
i do beleave that business and gangs should be control by different department like level issue lat, owner being corrupt or not obeying the rules- pr
if theres a glitch-nat
decisions like price change or owner change ect player admin or admins and manager decisions

we have 1 lat member :3

jkldogg 05-14-2011 06:06 PM

gl zeus

Supaman771 05-14-2011 06:07 PM

Alf just did LAT apps, he's waiting for Vulcan to approve the people, and one competent/active LAT can handle it all honestly... would take less than a day to redo all gang/biz levels.. or a few minutes to change the ownership variables.

GBA can do A LOT more than they have been... lately the GBAs have just been inactive and switched a owner every month or whatever. If he picks someone that knows what hes doing and has motivation to work; then there could be new dimensions added around gangs and businesses.

Arakonda 05-14-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1649686)
would take less than a day to redo all gang/biz levels..

Please, please, i beg you to show me.

Dragon551 05-14-2011 07:12 PM

Guns Admin is no longer going to be a staff job on Era. Guns shouldn't be touched at all once they're added. As for GBA, Zeus is currently in charge of dealing with anything GBA related until we hire a "permanent" replacement. I already have someone in mind, now I'm just waiting to see if he accepts or not.

I already chose a couple of people from the development applications, but yes I am waiting on Vulcan to approve them.

Supaman771 05-14-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arakonda (Post 1649695)
Please, please, i beg you to show me.

I'd do it if I could. ;)

Arakonda 05-14-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1649718)
I'd do it if I could. ;)

You can't do it?

Supaman771 05-14-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arakonda (Post 1649722)
You can't do it?

I don't work on Era is what I meant. So yes; I technically can't do it.

The_Federov 05-14-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1649698)
I already have someone in mind, now I'm just waiting to see if he accepts or not.

In other words, The_Federov is the new GBA! /high5

bloodykiller 05-15-2011 05:10 AM

somebody (hint he's mexican and works on era) told me who the next guns admin will be
so what will u give me if i tell u?

taylor 05-15-2011 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Federov (Post 1649726)
In other words, The_Federov is the new GBA! /high5

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Federov (Post 1648335)
Yeah, I decided I got bored of era, and bet all my items (About 2m) to random people, about 3 people, and lost. So, Good bye! Have fun on era, get's boring fast, but, merchanting made me want to keep playing. just wanted to say bye to some friends. (I quit graal, all of graal together, not just era.)


Huh?

bloodykiller 05-15-2011 05:30 AM

federov quit era for like 3 hours xD

Rave_J 05-15-2011 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1649686)
Alf just did LAT apps, he's waiting for Vulcan to approve the people, and one competent/active LAT can handle it all honestly... would take less than a day to redo all gang/biz levels.. or a few minutes to change the ownership variables.

GBA can do A LOT more than they have been... lately the GBAs have just been inactive and switched a owner every month or whatever. If he picks someone that knows what hes doing and has motivation to work; then there could be new dimensions added around gangs and businesses.

The problem is with that
most lats on era not all but most of them dont know how to do the basic things like creating a gmap,editing level scripts, making level scripts
joining classes ect.
if theres 3 graphics on one img to make only one graphic to display ect.
I apply for lat but they change the lat apps so i refuse to send another one for something thats not even going to be use

xTcDiabloxTc 05-15-2011 06:23 AM

can i b admin plz

Dragon551 05-15-2011 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1649806)
somebody (hint he's mexican and works on era) told me who the next guns admin will be
so what will u give me if i tell u?

I said he was possibly going to be the next guns admin (well the person who's gonna decide the final stats on guns), if he accepts it. You can post it.. It won't really matter o.o (Masa)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1649810)
The problem is with that
most lats on era not all but most of them dont know how to do the basic things like creating a gmap,editing level scripts, making level scripts
joining classes ect.
if theres 3 graphics on one img to make only one graphic to display ect.
I apply for lat but they change the lat apps so i refuse to send another one for something thats not even going to be use

Making level scripts and such really isn't an LATs job.. To be honest, I personally don't even let LATs do anything script-related in levels.. They just make the actual level, if there's a need for a script to be added - they can ask a scripter or admin...
And if you don't want to reapply, well then that's your choice... No one is forcing you to do it, and yeah the tryout levels aren't gonna be used but they show us what you're able to do... You not reapplying just tells me you aren't that interested in working on era or you're just lazy.. Or hate LATing.... Just the way I see it.

Supaman771 05-15-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1649841)
Making level scripts and such really isn't an LATs job.. To be honest, I personally don't even let LATs do anything script-related in levels.. They just make the actual level, if there's a need for a script to be added - they can ask a scripter or admin...

Lol, really?

Seems like a waste of a job position if you don't hire people that can manipulate images and npc scripts in levels.

Making the level is the easy part, getting everything to work is the actual job.

Dragon551 05-15-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1649898)
Lol, really?

Seems like a waste of a job position if you don't hire people that can manipulate images and npc scripts in levels.

Making the level is the easy part, getting everything to work is the actual job.

Since when is it an LAT's job to make scripts in a level? Manipulating images is easy, of course, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about them actually trying to make a new script in a level.

bloodykiller 05-15-2011 06:06 PM

na i wont tell

jkldogg 05-15-2011 06:10 PM

Auctions.

Supaman771 05-15-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1649903)
Since when is it an LAT's job to make scripts in a level? Manipulating images is easy, of course, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about them actually trying to make a new script in a level.

I've always thought that would be a requirement...

NPC scripts are part of the level editor thus level artists should know how to use them and make their levels functional. Since when is it NOT a LAT's job to make usable and functional levels.

Else they're just making a mold and passing it to someone else to fill in. Which is pretty inefficient when we're talking about the inactivity and laziness that is the Era staff team. If the LAT doesn't have the ability to fill in the mold then they're seriously lacking and will be in a bind when faced with a real task.

Just saying.

salesman 05-15-2011 08:00 PM

In my opinion, nobody should be writing code in level npcs except to set variables and join classes. I would expect level artists to know how to to this (assuming the classes are documented well enough so that others know how to use them).

Dragon551 05-15-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1649904)
na i wont tell

I already did tell them ^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1649923)
I've always thought that would be a requirement...

NPC scripts are part of the level editor thus level artists should know how to use them and make their levels functional. Since when is it NOT a LAT's job to make usable and functional levels.

Else they're just making a mold and passing it to someone else to fill in. Which is pretty inefficient when we're talking about the inactivity and laziness that is the Era staff team. If the LAT doesn't have the ability to fill in the mold then they're seriously lacking and will be in a bind when faced with a real task.

Just saying.

Scripting is still scripting, even if it's in a level. I know what you mean, but I don't see how it's an LATs job to script - that's a whole other skill to learn. There's a reason we have scripters, they'll be the ones scripting that level, not the LATs. It's like of you're a designer for apple - correct me if I'm wrong, but all you'll do is design the product not engineer the software.

Supaman771 05-15-2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1649928)
In my opinion, nobody should be writing code in level npcs except to set variables and join classes. I would expect level artists to know how to to this (assuming the classes are documented well enough so that others know how to use them).

That's sort-of what I was referencing.
They should know how to join an ATM or Tree to make the level functional.. or in the rare case make a responsive NPC, some fancy lighting effects, even have the ability to pump out new stuff (like Tim and his TTS event).

They should have the ability to do so if required... that is my opinion as well.
But; Alf is the Co-Manager so his requirements are all that matter I guess.

@Alf, I know what you mean too. I wasn't trying to argue with you, I was just saying what I thought.

cbk1994 05-15-2011 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1649931)
or in the rare case make a responsive NPC, some fancy lighting effects, even have the ability to pump out new stuff (like Tim and his TTS event).

Level artists should never be scripting. Tim's events are a great example of what happens when you allow them to.


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