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water95 04-14-2011 07:00 AM

Jobs...Fixing the economy.
 
Besides merching their is no way to easily make money. The jobs here came in as fun and slowly got boring. These jobs have been here since the beginning and we really could use new ones to allow players to become more interested in manual work. Years back ago I heard that they were going to open up fishing. That idea went in and out just like a lot of them.
We could really use jobs like:
Fishing
Stocking ammo/guns at those NPC Stores
Farming
Etc....

Fulg0reSama 04-14-2011 07:17 AM

the only idea I don't see happening in any chance is farming.

Demisis_P2P 04-14-2011 08:02 AM

Yeah because just adding another way for people to make money is going to somehow make it so there is less money floating around.

Herb_P2P 04-14-2011 08:03 AM

Why don't you take action instead of just posting ideas. Yes, I know you are not staff but you can still gfx things. could be a lot ezier for the lazy staff.

water95 04-14-2011 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herb_P2P (Post 1643223)
Why don't you take action instead of just posting ideas. Yes, I know you are not staff but you can still gfx things. could be a lot ezier for the lazy staff.

I wish I could.
I really don't know how.

papajchris 04-14-2011 06:03 PM

water95 aka zach should NOT take action Herb. When the hotel came out, Zach aka Clyde aka water95 warped into every hotel room and stole items and then dropped/detroyed them. While that was 2 years ago(?), I still remember spending 6-8 hours cleaning up that mess. Unless zach gave away his account, or is sharring, it's the same person. Now if another staff member wants to take action, here are some ideas:

-Fishing
-Boat building for fishing
-Revamp casino so its useful
-Era Newspaper (only been waiting 3 years on this?)
-Add a better purpose to wood cutting
-Digging (have players dig for rare roots or something)

water95 04-14-2011 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1643288)
water95 aka zach should NOT take action Herb. When the hotel came out, Zach aka Clyde aka water95 warped into every hotel room and stole items and then dropped/detroyed them. While that was 2 years ago(?), I still remember spending 6-8 hours cleaning up that mess. Unless zach gave away his account, or is sharring, it's the same person. Now if another staff member wants to take action, here are some ideas:

-Fishing
-Boat building for fishing
-Revamp casino so its useful
-Era Newspaper (only been waiting 3 years on this?)
-Add a better purpose to wood cutting
-Digging (have players dig for rare roots or something)

Did you just accuse me of hacking into hotel rooms? WTF...This is my only account.

DustyPorViva 04-14-2011 06:51 PM

Just do bail outs. That fixes economies... right?

DDynasty 04-14-2011 07:06 PM

Stop complaining about something that cant be fixed.

kingcj 04-14-2011 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1643301)
Just do bail outs. That fixes economies... right?

Lmao...

WillaWonka 04-14-2011 08:42 PM

Can i just rob banks, do it the ol' fashion way.

emoman 04-14-2011 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1643325)
Can i just rob banks, do it the ol' fashion way.

In all seriousness, some crime orientated jobs would be fun and fit pretty well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDynasty (Post 1643304)
Stop complaining about something that cant be fixed.

It can be fixed, but not with negative nelly comments such as this.

papajchris 04-14-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoman (Post 1643336)
In all seriousness, some crime orientated jobs would be fun and fit pretty well.



It can be fixed, but not with negative nelly comments such as this.

I don't see why they couldn't have automated events where the bank turns into a pk zone and whoever make it to to the safe first gets X amount of money. They could do many ideas like this, that are actually fun.

emoman 04-14-2011 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1643338)
I don't see why they couldn't have automated events where the bank turns into a pk zone and whoever make it to to the safe first gets X amount of money. They could do many ideas like this, that are actually fun.

Yeah, or at least make the half-assed driving missions somewhat more fun and rewarding, have NPC cop cars chase you and road blocks to avoid. Have other players run into NPC shops and run out with a quest item moneybag and the other player/NPC a get-away driver
It could be a fun party quest or something

Zeross 04-15-2011 12:56 AM

Made 8k in past 3 days of PK.
More like 7 hours tho, on-late-night

bloodykiller 04-15-2011 10:37 PM

they should just give u 50-100$ or even more per gang kill to increase playercount

Herb_P2P 04-16-2011 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1643288)
water95 aka zach should NOT take action Herb. When the hotel came out, Zach aka Clyde aka water95 warped into every hotel room and stole items and then dropped/detroyed them. While that was 2 years ago(?), I still remember spending 6-8 hours cleaning up that mess. Unless zach gave away his account, or is sharring, it's the same person. Now if another staff member wants to take action, here are some ideas:


I'm not saying for him to be a staff member. I'm saying that if he is bringing all these ideas up and just posting them why not he just make gfxs for the ideas he is thinking and send it in or w.e

water95 04-16-2011 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1643288)
water95 aka zach should NOT take action Herb. When the hotel came out, Zach aka Clyde aka water95 warped into every hotel room and stole items and then dropped/detroyed them. While that was 2 years ago(?), I still remember spending 6-8 hours cleaning up that mess. Unless zach gave away his account, or is sharring, it's the same person. Now if another staff member wants to take action, here are some ideas:

-Fishing
-Boat building for fishing
-Revamp casino so its useful
-Era Newspaper (only been waiting 3 years on this?)
-Add a better purpose to wood cutting
-Digging (have players dig for rare roots or something)

For you all to know. I asked staff and I do not have any such banns or jails on my account.
I believe you have mistaken me for the wrong person.
I am events team right now anyways.
They wouldn't hire me if I had such a record anyways.

xTcDiabloxTc 04-17-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by water95 (Post 1643639)
They wouldn't hire me if I had such a record anyways.

hahahahaha

ff7chocoboknight 04-17-2011 09:08 PM

Can't fix a broken economy by giving people more ways to break it.

NightmareNight 04-17-2011 09:47 PM

icarus 4 manager

bloodykiller 04-17-2011 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight (Post 1643948)
Can't fix a broken economy by giving people more ways to break it.



what? that duznt make any sense, if tomorrow they decide to make gun prices 10x more expensive 1mil today would be worth 10mil the day after
so if everyone has more money or can easily obtain it then the economy wouldnt be "broken" but era money would simply be worth less

hunterhunk 04-18-2011 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1643980)
what? that duznt make any sense, if tomorrow they decide to make gun prices 10x more expensive 1mil today would be worth 10mil the day after
so if everyone has more money or can easily obtain it then the economy wouldnt be "broken" but era money would simply be worth less

The economy would be broken actually, since people always put a pricetag on items in terms of money.

Making money easier to get like it was after the reset caused problems. Money is the regulator in the economy for the most part.

So I don't know what you're even talking about.

bloodykiller 04-18-2011 07:24 PM

ur obviously not smart enough to understand economics ;)

emoman 04-18-2011 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight (Post 1643948)
Can't fix a broken economy by giving people more ways to break it.

I fail to see how giving players a chance to make money more efficiently to keep up with these ridiculous prices and fun for all content is breaking the economy. If anything if this was implemented correctly it would help Era..although again, it would have to be well thought out and put in right so that we don't repeat the past with Era's economy.
The only people that do not want this change are people who are already very wealthy in the game or people that just don't want Era moving forward at all.

ff7chocoboknight 04-18-2011 11:49 PM

The problem is that there is too much money with the players. Jobs give them more money appearing from thin air. There needs to be circulation not a continual addition of money onto the server.

MontyPython 04-19-2011 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1643288)
Now if another staff member wants to take action, here are some ideas:

-Fishing
-Boat building for fishing
-Revamp casino so its useful
-Era Newspaper (only been waiting 3 years on this?)
-Add a better purpose to wood cutting
-Digging (have players dig for rare roots or something)

More jobs with a complete disconnect to the server's purpose is a terrible idea.

Everyone's been suggesting/begging for fishing for forever, but why? What's the point? It'll be pizza-making or mining with a different button mini-game. Digging already = sea shells. Digging up "rare roots" barely would pass on a fantasy RPG server, much less on Era. Boat building? Gross. Go play Kingdoms and see how fun that is. The casino is fine as-is, define what a "useful" casino is? One where you can expect to win on a regular basis? No. It's supposed to be a high-risk, low reward fun diversion. Not a central element to core gameplay.

Integrating core-gameplay into the job system would be a better idea. Certain locations that could be periodically raided by gangs (instant cliche idea would be a financial institution such as a bank) for decent cash payouts (automatically split among the raiders) would be fun. It might also add some more purpose to gang raids by allowing them to fight over specific areas on the map for more reason than simply "the sake of raiding".

Finding a way to allow the gangsters to quit their hardcore day-jobs as pizza cooks, lumberjacks, ditch diggers, and aspiring botanists would be the best way to spend staff time on changing the job market rather than adding in more useless ways to remove players further from the server's core gameplay.



Quote:

Originally Posted by water95 (Post 1643639)
I am events team right now anyways.
They wouldn't hire me if I had such a record anyways.

They don't let just anyone manipulate time and space via the event warper. Such power even in the hands of a fool could be devastating.

Shadow5596321 04-19-2011 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by water95 (Post 1643639)
For you all to know. I asked staff and I do not have any such banns or jails on my account.
I believe you have mistaken me for the wrong person.
I am events team right now anyways.
They wouldn't hire me if I had such a record anyways.

Isn't Era's ETA Name? If so, that'll explain why you have the job.

cheesemanfred 04-19-2011 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight (Post 1644196)
The problem is that there is too much money with the players. Jobs give them more money appearing from thin air. There needs to be circulation not a continual addition of money onto the server.

Do you play Era?

ff7chocoboknight 04-19-2011 09:49 PM

Was on once when Classic was at war with Era.You don't need to play to realize that there is a problem and the solutions given will not work. Just reading the forums can give you an idea of the problems Era is facing.

NightmareNight 04-25-2011 09:58 PM

just increase the payout of current jobs by 3-5x, new players will be able to get money easier and rich players will continue merching to get rich

Demisis_P2P 04-26-2011 12:59 AM

Yeah because hyperinflation really worked for Zimbabwe.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_f_EgQtIcZJ...rinflation.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FSUcWpWvzn...tes-739436.jpg

Geno 04-26-2011 01:59 AM

the paper the 5 dollar Zimbabwe bill is on has to hold more value than it's worth

Supaman771 04-26-2011 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geno (Post 1645604)
the paper the 5 dollar Zimbabwe bill is on has to hold more value than it's worth

Just the ink used to print it cost 200$... don't get me started on the paper, or the machines used to do it.

fowlplay4 04-26-2011 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1645617)
don't get me started on the paper, or the machines used to do it.

How much did they cost?

Crono 04-26-2011 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1645617)
Just the ink used to print it cost 200$... don't get me started on the paper, or the machines used to do it.

****ing machines, how do they work?

Knux 04-26-2011 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by water95 (Post 1643212)
Besides merching their is no way to easily make money. The jobs here came in as fun and slowly got boring. These jobs have been here since the beginning and we really could use new ones to allow players to become more interested in manual work. Years back ago I heard that they were going to open up fishing. That idea went in and out just like a lot of them.
We could really use jobs like:
Fishing
Stocking ammo/guns at those NPC Stores
Farming
Etc....

If you stay on mining you can make a buttload of money.

bloodykiller 04-26-2011 05:49 AM

i hope era staff is smarter than a zimbawian, which isnt hard lol

DDynasty 04-26-2011 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1645638)
i hope era staff is smarter than a zimbawian, which isnt hard lol

Ha.


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