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jkldogg 08-25-2010 09:12 AM

Windows 7 FPS Lag [Laptop]
 
On era whenever I check my lag (saying "showlag") My MS is always 60-200 and my FPS is like 9-15. So i'm wondering how I can increase my fps so I don't lag anymore?

I've come to notice that MS lag makes you lag bullets and FPS lag makes you walk slow. The ideal FPS is 20-23.

Any suggestions?

Demisis_P2P 08-25-2010 10:09 AM

Max FPS is 20. Don't know why it sometimes reports more for people.

For some reason my Graal runs faster if it's maximised than if I just manually stretch the window out to the size of my screen.
Also try disabling Lights, Particles and Weather.

jkldogg 08-25-2010 10:24 AM

Lights, particles, and weather are disabled. My FPS is still low. I move slow at 19 FPS (it randomly jumps up and down). I'm only normal speed if my FPS is 20 or more.

cbk1994 08-25-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1596538)
Max FPS is 20. Don't know why it sometimes reports more for people.

For some reason my Graal runs faster if it's maximised than if I just manually stretch the window out to the size of my screen.
Also try disabling Lights, Particles and Weather.

The "max" is 20 but it's running every 0.05 seconds and it's not too precise so it's possible to get 21, although there's a glitch in the script which gives everyone an extra frame. It's possible to get to 22 though at times.

12171217 08-25-2010 03:16 PM

Say "showscriptstats", press F2, click the scripts tab, and laugh at Chris Vimes.

And it's really of nobody's fault. Graal seems poorly optimized in the first place.

Liberated 08-25-2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12171217 (Post 1596565)
Say "showscriptstats", press F2, click the scripts tab, and laugh at Chris Vimes.

And it's really of nobody's fault. Graal seems poorly optimized in the first place.

other then the movement system it doesn't seem to be that bad?
PHP Code:

1. 13.032161908 Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 1.007264889 
Gani Player DrSteve
3. 0.644358431 
Weapon -GUI
4. 0.490042728 
Weapon -System
5. 0.362071157 
Weapon -Serverlist 

by #20 it's around 0.05%

knightfire35 08-25-2010 04:20 PM

Era is the only server I have trouble with regarding lag.

It helps when I play in fullscreen, not sure why. Also, disable lights particles and weather if you haven't already.

12171217 08-25-2010 04:27 PM

The showscriptstats thing was a joke. And like I said; Graal is poorly optimized, and pretty dated.

jkldogg 08-25-2010 06:09 PM

So any suggestions to raise FPS?

Crow 08-25-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1596569)
other then the movement system it doesn't seem to be that bad?
PHP Code:

1. 13.032161908 Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 1.007264889 
Gani Player DrSteve
3. 0.644358431 
Weapon -GUI
4. 0.490042728 
Weapon -System
5. 0.362071157 
Weapon -Serverlist 

by #20 it's around 0.05%

Strange. I wonder why the movement system is at 13%.

Fulg0reSama 08-25-2010 07:03 PM

13%? Even I think that's crazy. N-Pulse doesn't even have scripts that go 5%.

12171217 08-25-2010 07:13 PM

13% for a movement system is pretty exorbent, and Era's movement system is pretty meh, but for the sake of argument, let's all assume it handles various other functions besides movement in one WNPC.

And the percentages; surely they're more relative than we can simply compare one server to another, being tested by two different users on two different machines?

Crow 08-25-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12171217 (Post 1596617)
13% for a movement system is pretty exorbent, and Era's movement system is pretty meh, but for the sake of argument, let's all assume it handles various other functions besides movement in one WNPC.

It does. I'm just worried because I coded some of it. I must admit, though, that I do not know what was added since then. When I was stress testing it, I never got beyond 4%; neither did my test subjects.

cbk1994 08-25-2010 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1596612)
Strange. I wonder why the movement system is at 13%.

The movement system isn't, it's calling the nick system as well as some others and it gets thrown in since it's called in the onTimeOut function. If you call another function first or trigger the nick system, it's much lower (I've tried this on Era).

Also, CPU is relative to the computer/client, so you can't really compare numbers from other servers if they were taken using a different computer or client.

Quote:

Top 50 of npcs taken most CPU time:
1. 3.157262172 % Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 0.506094261 % Weapon -Functions
3. 0.357946263 % Weapon TSAdmin/News GUI
4. 0.120031198 % Weapon -Messages
5. 0.052453222 % Weapon -GUI
(after running around unstick me for 60 seconds)

Crow 08-25-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1596654)
it's calling the nick system

I know :p Wasn't aware that adds to the movement system though.

Dnegel 08-25-2010 10:42 PM

Players on Era moves alot faster than other servers.

jkldogg 08-26-2010 06:25 AM

stufff
 
I'm confused.

Mine says

PHP Code:

Top 50 of npcs taken most CPU time:
1. 13.006578457 Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 0.688944153 
Weapon -GUI
3. 0.614896074 
Weapon -System
4. 0.486855828 
Weapon -Messages
5. 0.39908425 
Weapon -ItemSystem
6. 0.372887071 
Weapon -Serverlist
7. 0.30785239 
Weapon -BulletSystem
8. 0.197128259 
Weapon -Knockout
9. 0.180282664 
Weapon -IRC_Installer
10. 0.174136497 
Weapon -MeleeSystem 

Any suggestions?

Luda 08-26-2010 11:25 AM

Have you tried UN too? Because I'm using W7 on a laptop also and I move slow as **** on Era & UN with lights, particle effects & weather disabled.

Dnegel 08-26-2010 04:09 PM

PHP Code:

Top 50 of npcs taken most CPU time:
1. 4.582867377 Weapon -MoveSystem
2. 0.366516893 
Weapon -GUI
3. 0.306824976 
Weapon -BulletSystem
4. 0.300497047 
Weapon -System
5. 0.284207636 
Weapon -IRC_InstallerGUI
6. 0.238757406 
Weapon -Translation
7. 0.198054405 
Weapon -Serverlist
8. 0.195796264 
Weapon -Messages
9. 0.19442085 
Weapon -ItemSystem
10. 0.128211115 
Weapon -Functions 

Just because my broadband is gangsta. :cool:

Crow 08-26-2010 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnegel (Post 1596759)
network

:oo:

jkldogg 08-26-2010 08:01 PM

I also move slow on UN. Anyone have a fix / solution?

knightfire35 08-26-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkldogg (Post 1596811)
I also move slow on UN. Anyone have a fix / solution?

Have you tried disabling the aero effects?

Dnegel 08-26-2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1596774)
:oo:

fix'd

cbk1994 08-26-2010 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnegel (Post 1596845)
fix'd

:noob:

Your connection has nothing to do with CPU usage in your client.

salesman 08-26-2010 11:50 PM

Era's movement system could use some serious optimization. Last I saw it there was a lot of redundancy in the onWall() checks which is probably what's causing the slowdown (srry i was 2 lazy 2 fix).

jkldogg 08-27-2010 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightfire35 (Post 1596834)
Have you tried disabling the aero effects?

Yeah, I have TuneUp utilities 2010, with the turbo mode the graphics scheme is set to classic windows. the lag doesn't change. :[

Dnegel 08-27-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1596871)
:noob:

Your connection has nothing to do with CPU usage in your client.

I didn't know. :cry: (yo my CPU is crap btw)

Crow 08-27-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1596875)
Era's movement system could use some serious optimization. Last I saw it there was a lot of redundancy in the onWall() checks which is probably what's causing the slowdown (srry i was 2 lazy 2 fix).

No redundancy. Four calls. One for stuff directly in front of the player, one for non-blocking tiles a bit ahead of the player (to get out of walls if stuck), and these two repeated with my own function to check for tiletypes 9 and 10 as "walls" (which you can shoot through, but not walk through).

jkldogg 08-27-2010 07:04 PM

Would someone mind helping me rather than talking about random scripting gibberish?

jkldogg 09-01-2010 05:30 AM

bump

Demisis_P2P 09-01-2010 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkldogg (Post 1596927)
Yeah, I have TuneUp utilities 2010, with the turbo mode the graphics scheme is set to classic windows. the lag doesn't change. :[

is there anything above turbo mode?

Catbert 09-01-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkldogg (Post 1596602)
So any suggestions to raise FPS?

Get a better computer? Seriously. I got my 8600gt video card removed and put it in for a 3200 and I still can run Graal smoothly. Why does everyone who plays Graal have a garbage PC? Is this why they play Graal?

Skyld 09-01-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catbert (Post 1598023)
Get a better computer? Seriously. I got my 8600gt video card removed and put it in for a 3200 and I still can run Graal smoothly. Why does everyone who plays Graal have a garbage PC? Is this why they play Graal?

Um, Graal runs fine on a 400mhz iPhone. By comparison, any computer purchased in the last 10 years should be capable.

jkldogg: Try and update your computer's graphics drivers. Don't rely on Windows Update; get the drivers from the manufacturers website directly. Take a look at this thread: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=61703

Catbert 09-01-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1598040)
Um, Graal runs fine on a 400mhz iPhone. By comparison, any computer purchased in the last 10 years should be capable.

jkldogg: Try and update your computer's graphics drivers. Don't rely on Windows Update; get the drivers from the manufacturers website directly. Take a look at this thread: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=61703

If he's whining about 15 fps, then it's probably not his computer. Just the game. Era always will lag you because of people spamming bullets and bombs

jkldogg 09-04-2010 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1597965)
is there anything above turbo mode?

I don't understand this question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catbert (Post 1598023)
Get a better computer? Seriously. I got my 8600gt video card removed and put it in for a 3200 and I still can run Graal smoothly. Why does everyone who plays Graal have a garbage PC? Is this why they play Graal?

Ty for the post that doesn't help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1598040)
Um, Graal runs fine on a 400mhz iPhone. By comparison, any computer purchased in the last 10 years should be capable.

jkldogg: Try and update your computer's graphics drivers. Don't rely on Windows Update; get the drivers from the manufacturers website directly. Take a look at this thread: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=61703

I'll do this and post again with the outcome.

jkldogg 09-04-2010 07:42 AM

15k up 4 grabz
 
I updated the drivers and it's still laggy.

EDIT:

I'd be willing to give 15k on Era to whoever helps solve my lag issue.

Here are some of my system specs and you can post here or pm me on era if u need more information to help me.

System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
Video Card: ATI Radeon Graphics HD 3200 Graphics
RAM: 4 Gigabytes
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual-Core QL-65 2.10 GHz

krossi 09-04-2010 01:49 PM

Can it be becouse of the internet connection?

cbk1994 09-04-2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krossi (Post 1598703)
Can it be becouse of the internet connection?

FPS and latency aren't significantly related.

jkldogg 09-04-2010 09:41 PM

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...9&postcount=36

jkldogg 09-06-2010 07:05 AM

bump


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