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Loriel 03-01-2010 12:57 AM

remove the time limit on editing your own posts
 
^^^^^^^^^

WhiteDragon 03-01-2010 12:58 AM

Yeah.

cbk1994 03-01-2010 01:18 AM

In the past they said they can't do it because it would be possible for people to go to old posts and add goatses or whatever.

Maybe if it was possible for the post to be "bumped", as in, marked unread, it would work.

I agree, though, it would especially be useful for posts in the code gallery where you're updating the original script.

Crono 03-01-2010 01:34 AM

dont get what stops people from adding "goatses" to their current posts but whatever

time limit isnt much of a problem for me, gives an excuse to double post sometimes. :p

DrakilorP2P 03-01-2010 01:36 AM

Registering as someone who has been annoyed by it.

DustyPorViva 03-01-2010 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1559726)
dont get what stops people from adding "goatses" to their current posts but whatever

time limit isnt much of a problem for me, gives an excuse to double post sometimes. :p

Most likely because edited posts remain where they are, thus can stealthily be edited and hard to really find out.

However, I agree it's frustrating, especially for sections like the code gallery. I have to post updates instead of updating the main posts, and chances are people aren't going to go through the whole thread to maybe see an update in there.

Crono 03-01-2010 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1559731)
Most likely because edited posts remain where they are, thus can stealthily be edited and hard to really find out.

Should someone ever run into it they will report it anyway, either way atleast one person ends up seeing it.

@zelph, i also like putting frosting on mine

_Zelph 03-01-2010 01:39 AM

Maybe for the code gallery, but otherwise I think post editing is stupid. I seem to be the only one.

I mean, this forum lets you preview your post and everything, and if you're going to post a little while after your first post, I don't see why posting again has such a bad stigma.

Also...


NPC Code:
Poster 1: Hey guys, who likes cupcakes?
Poster 2: Love 'em!
Poster 3: I like huge ones
Poster 4: I always put frosting on mine
*Poster 1 changes first post to "Hey guys, who likes butts?"*


pooper200000 03-01-2010 01:51 AM

I would like it for certain forums to have posts that can be editted, like the first post in the code gallery. Maybe if we had something like this we could do a post your Graal resume of places you've worked (If you aren't currently employed on a server) so that server managers can contact you about working for their server. Basically, a hiring forum for people to say they are looking for work.

cbk1994 03-01-2010 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1559741)
I would like it for certain forums to have posts that can be editted, like the first post in the code gallery. Maybe if we had something like this we could do a post your Graal resume of places you've worked (If you aren't currently employed on a server) so that server managers can contact you about working for their server. Basically, a hiring forum for people to say they are looking for work.

Any good developers can find a project in a few seconds, I think it should be up to the project to advertise their needs, not up to the developer.

Demisis_P2P 03-01-2010 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Zelph (Post 1559734)
Maybe for the code gallery, but otherwise I think post editing is stupid. I seem to be the only one.

I mean, this forum lets you preview your post and everything, and if you're going to post a little while after your first post, I don't see why posting again has such a bad stigma.

Also...


NPC Code:
Poster 1: Hey guys, who likes cupcakes?
Poster 2: Love 'em!
Poster 3: I like huge ones
Poster 4: I always put frosting on mine
*Poster 1 changes first post to "Hey guys, who likes butts?"*


This is why quote exists.

benpoke103 03-01-2010 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1559759)
This is why quote exists.

Also why it would say when the message was edited.


also for removing post edit limit time.

Stephen 03-01-2010 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Zelph (Post 1559734)
NPC Code:
Poster 1: Hey guys, who likes cupcakes?
Poster 2: Love 'em!
Poster 3: I like huge ones
Poster 4: I always put frosting on mine
*Poster 1 changes first post to "Hey guys, who likes butts?"*


The general mechanism of the quoted text is why I disagree, you should not be able to edit posts beyond a reasonable time period (~12 hours). If you need something edited you can just ask a moderator. I feel comfortable presuming these sort of circumstances are isolated.

WhiteDragon 03-01-2010 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1559762)
The general mechanism of the quoted text is why I disagree, you should not be able to edit posts beyond a reasonable time period (~12 hours). If you need something edited you can just ask a moderator. I feel comfortable presuming these sort of circumstances are isolated.

About every single post I've made in code gallery has needed to be edited, and I'm sure this is true of most other people's as well.

In general, it is useful whenever you want to make a point in the first post of the thread so people will see it.

I think the circumstance of someone changing their post maliciously would be much more isolated than one of someone changing their post in order to benefit readers.

_Zelph 03-01-2010 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1559759)
This is why quote exists.

I've always been under the impression that quoting was a communication mechanism and not an archival utility :p

Stephen 03-01-2010 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteDragon (Post 1559763)
About every single post I've made in code gallery has needed to be edited, and I'm sure this is true of most other people's as well.

In general, it is useful whenever you want to make a point in the first post of the thread so people will see it.

I think the circumstance of someone changing their post maliciously would be much more isolated than one of someone changing their post in order to benefit readers.

I don't know personally, but if that's true than perhaps long-term editing should be allowed in the scripting section. However, for the rest of the forum or any other forum, long-term editing should definitely be disabled, with a limit of ~12 hours.
Quote:

Originally Posted by _Zelph (Post 1559765)
I've always been under the impression that quoting was a communication mechanism and not an archival utility :p

Yea, but because it helps communicate clearly it becomes an important part of the archival process (which occurs naturally on these and most other forums).

WhiteDragon 03-01-2010 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1559766)
I don't know personally, but if that's true than perhaps long-term editing should be allowed in the scripting section. However, for the rest of the forum or any other forum, long-term editing should definitely be disabled, with a limit of ~12 hours.

This isn't built-in, and we've searched for mods to do it and found none that work with the current version of vBulletin here.

Stephen 03-01-2010 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteDragon (Post 1559769)
This isn't built-in, and we've searched for mods to do it and found none that work with the current version of vBulletin here.

Then you should be well aware that this is purely conversational?

My presumption, ignoring that such modifications may not only be simple but also built into the system, has been that - regardless of what great features we would love to see added.

Loriel 03-01-2010 02:01 PM

yeah let's spend pages coming up with retarded rationalisations for arbitrarily limiting features that work just fine on every other goddamn forum


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