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cbk1994 08-09-2008 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1412743)
I think Zero's editor departs too far away from the external editor's interface and functions to be appealing to older level makers.

I'd prefer a level editor with the same interface, just revamped.

However, I'm not going to judge it until I see it.

LoneAngelIbesu 08-09-2008 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1412738)
Yeah, it would be possible. Of course, you're still relying on gscript an an internet connection :\
I used to like to edit levels when I had internet downtime.

You can still make decent levels offline. Nobody's taking the external editor away from you. ^^

^Forgot that the entire argument was about a Mac. :p Sorry.

cbk1994 08-09-2008 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu (Post 1412745)
You can still make decent levels offline. Nobody's taking the external editor away from you. ^^

If you use Windows, that is.

Inverness 08-09-2008 02:32 AM

If Novo and Excaliber don't want to BootCamp to use Graal then you're just going to have to suck it up. I doubt Stefan is going to change the way hes doing things anytime soon. You'll just need to wait for the Graal v6 (assuming that is client with external scripted windows).
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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu (Post 1412745)
You can still make decent levels offline. Nobody's taking the external editor away from you. ^^

He has a Mac...

cbk1994 08-09-2008 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1412747)
If Novo and Excaliber don't want to BootCamp to use Graal then you're just going to have to suck it up. I doubt Stefan is going to change the way hes doing things anytime soon. You'll just need to wait for the Graal v6 (assuming that is client with external scripted windows).

I'm confused as to why Stefan is waiting to release the external windows. There are like ... 5 or 6 glitches on Mac, and I reported them a while back.

Inverness 08-09-2008 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1412748)
I'm confused as to why Stefan is waiting to release the external windows. There are like ... 5 or 6 glitches on Mac, and I reported them a while back.

For some reason Stefan is concentrating on Graal v6 instead of Graal v5.x. Hes basically making one huge update instead of smaller ones leading up to it, which is bad.

excaliber7388 08-09-2008 02:51 AM

And I've ran the level editor under VMware fusion before. It's still pretty slow, but better than the online ones. It also comes with the problem of having to run windows. I recently shrank the vmware file to less than 7 gb, just because I never use it.

A quick fix might be him working out compatibility issues, so you could download it, and use something like crossover to run. Again, far from perfect (and people will have to buy expensive software), but it's still another option (I don't think it's any better than the online tools though).
We need a dedicated client. I don't have the talent to make one yet, and even if I did, why would I want to put effort to help out a company that won't even appreciate my contribution?

Inverness 08-09-2008 02:53 AM

Sorry to derail your topic Novo, but I think the question has been answered. Stefan is focusing on external scripted windows not a separate application.

Novo 08-09-2008 03:17 AM

I had my answer a long time ago, Inverness: "If you want an external RC, make one yourself."

Inverness 08-09-2008 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 1412756)
I had my answer a long time ago, Inverness: "If you want an external RC, make one yourself."

You could make one yourself but Stefan isn't going to tell you how to connect to Graal with it.

excaliber7388 08-09-2008 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 1412756)
I had my answer a long time ago, Inverness: "If you want an external RC, make one yourself."

And once you make it, I'm sure some loophole will make it property of Graal Online :p

cbk1994 08-09-2008 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1412760)
And once you make it, I'm sure some loophole will make it property of Graal Online :p

I hope so, then he can sue them.

DustyPorViva 08-09-2008 04:01 AM

Er... Robin made an open source level editor in Flash and Stefan didn't like that because of 'security' reasons or something.

I can only imagine his reaction to someone making an RC.

cbk1994 08-09-2008 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1412772)
Er... Robin made an open source level editor in Flash and Stefan didn't like that because of 'security' reasons or something.

I can only imagine his reaction to someone making an RC.

I don't think he made the whole editor, just the viewer.

DustyPorViva 08-09-2008 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1412796)
I don't think he made the whole editor, just the viewer.

Which just goes to show, if Stefan finds THAT a security risk, can you only imagine what he'll think of an RC?

Novo 08-09-2008 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1412805)
Which just goes to show, if Stefan finds THAT a security risk, can you only imagine what he'll think of an RC?

I meant that... :( I'll never have my External RC... As I see too sad that I'd have to make my developer tools to develop for free.

Kristi 08-09-2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1412750)
..crossover to run. Again, far from perfect (and people will have to buy expensive software), but it's still another option (I don't think it's any better than the online tools though)

Crossover is just a marketed version of wine, which is free.

excaliber7388 08-09-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristi (Post 1412862)
Crossover is just a marketed version of wine, which is free.

Not to be rude, but duh.

Kristi 08-09-2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1412750)
(and people will have to buy expensive software)

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1412868)
Not to be rude, but duh.

I stated it was free because you stated you had to buy expensive software. You just contradicted yourself, and then acted arrogant on top of it. Good going epic fail.

DrakilorP2P 08-09-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristi (Post 1412910)
epic fail.

Epic fail meme is in your thread, failing epicly.

excaliber7388 08-10-2008 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristi (Post 1412910)
I stated it was free because you stated you had to buy expensive software. You just contradicted yourself, and then acted arrogant on top of it. Good going epic fail.

Wine support is even harder to work with than crossover.
I haven't gotten graal to work on either.


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