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ooger 03-10-2015 12:44 AM

Gun Stats
 
Why is there a need to 1-up the last gun that was released with a new gun? I really don't see the point of "balancing" if the next gun is just going to be better then you have to buff the other top tier guns to be comparable. The lower tier guns are getting left behind making a much higher skill floor for new players. I get that staff wants to keep pumping out new material, but where do the stats cap?

Demisis_P2P 03-10-2015 02:25 AM

So that players always feel like they have something to work towards and continue playing.
I don't agree that it's the smartest way to achieve that goal, especially because there is such a tight margin on the possible gun stats the way that the system is set up at the moment, but it's very quick and easy to just release a new gun every now and then.

Tim_Rocks 03-10-2015 09:37 PM

Even better idea: release new guns slightly worse than the previous week and sell for more.

cbk1994 03-11-2015 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1735376)
Even better idea: release new guns slightly worse than the previous week and sell for more.

Make sure to also rig (npcserver) and the inventory to lie about the stats.

Supaman771 03-11-2015 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1735380)
Make sure to also rig (npcserver) and the inventory to lie about the stats.

Reminds me of when someone edited the gun class to make Mp5 Navy have a different (higher) default freeze than the variables in the weapon itself. :p

ooger 03-11-2015 03:45 PM

Lol Rogue let's be honest it's almost impossible to avoid a conflict of interest when changing gun stats.

Tim_Rocks 03-11-2015 04:39 PM

Should just go back to Uzi, ak47, and shotgun.

bioboi 03-11-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1735393)
Should just go back to Uzi, ak47, and shotgun.

This, plus a reset would be amazing. My personal belief in where Era went downhill was when all the focus was shifted towards the economy. All the healing items and what not kinda make Era suck imo. I think if it went back to the Era of HGs, Uzis, Shotguns, AK47, then M4 and Famas as your next tier up, then just have Metal Storms as your god tier gun. I know its unrealistic to happen but I honestly think to much of the basic gameplay revolves around its overly complex economy.

Demisis_P2P 03-12-2015 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bioboi (Post 1735396)
This, plus a reset would be amazing. My personal belief in where Era went downhill was when all the focus was shifted towards the economy. All the healing items and what not kinda make Era suck imo. I think if it went back to the Era of HGs, Uzis, Shotguns, AK47, then M4 and Famas as your next tier up, then just have Metal Storms as your god tier gun. I know its unrealistic to happen but I honestly think to much of the basic gameplay revolves around its overly complex economy.

Reset will never happen and doesn't really need to happen.

You could make guns obtainable just by getting kills, but then just don't make those specific weapons tradeable. e.g. 20 kills with any handgun lets you unlock either Taurus or MK23, then 50 kills with any handgun lets you unlock Desert Eagle or Beretta, then 200 kills lets you unlock Luger or K180s, and so on.
So players who don't want to take part in the economy can just PK and still progress.
People who want to do a bit of both can save up for a bit buy a Desert Eagle kill a few people, sell it, buy K180s, kill more people and eventually unlock FiveSevens through PKing.
And people who want to work can just work and buy whatever they want and sell them later.

At the moment we're halfway to this system because kills give money and gang kills actually give a lot of money, but that doesn't have the same feel of progression that something more visual and measurable like unlocking the guns would have.

Cubical 03-12-2015 09:40 AM

Every time you equip a weapon it should transform into P4.

ilovegirlzz 03-12-2015 04:45 PM

they should let me balance the weapons..i'd have this game on the road to salvation

Tim_Rocks 03-12-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz (Post 1735418)
they should let me balance the weapons..i'd have this game on the road to salvation

ha

Reddy548 03-13-2015 01:33 AM

Weapons like Neo Rifle /MVP mk14 / and big snipers need dmg reduction , being bursted by 1 shot really makes new players with 100 hp easy to kill

shrimps 03-13-2015 02:26 AM

Yeah, that's sort of silly, I keep seeing a few people burst 44-48 damage with some gun? That's kind of insane.

Demisis_P2P 03-13-2015 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Reddy548 (Post 1735422)
Weapons like Neo Rifle /MVP mk14 / and big snipers need dmg reduction , being bursted by 1 shot really makes new players with 100 hp easy to kill

Those guns are pretty easy to avoid and have a freeze and timeout relative to their damage.
If they were actually OP you'd see more demands for them and more people using them.
Is it annoying getting hit by them? Sure. But I find it's just as annoying getting walled by MP5s and SG552s, etc.


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