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Kamaeru 06-17-2016 10:23 PM

A Haiku
 
graal2001

come back into my life please

graal2001

Sparkplug 07-07-2016 06:08 PM

^

Lets give someone RC access so we can actually take a look at what has to be done / can be done.

The powers that be... is it so hard to do that?

kia345 07-08-2016 11:18 AM

it's snowing on mount fuji

Skyld 07-08-2016 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkplug (Post 1739199)
The powers that be... is it so hard to do that?

yes

Crono 07-08-2016 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1739200)
it's snowing on mount fuji

dae game gremps xDD

Kamaeru 07-09-2016 10:31 PM

Basically what Skyld said. The powers that be are trying to keep G2K1 on the stealth hush for some reason. And I do not suspect that the reason is positive. My own theory is that they tried to make it an iPhone server and screwed everything up royally, then they just left it that way. I'm hoping someone has decent backups (Lance would). I'm not opposed to just buying a server and uploading Graal2001 to it.

Skyld 07-10-2016 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamaeru (Post 1739205)
Basically what Skyld said. The powers that be are trying to keep G2K1 on the stealth hush for some reason. And I do not suspect that the reason is positive. My own theory is that they tried to make it an iPhone server and screwed everything up royally, then they just left it that way.

There was talk in the past of turning Graal2001 into an iPhone server, but I do not know if this ever was even started properly. Quite a bit of conversion to GScript2 took place otherwise but it was certainly never finished.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamaeru
I'm hoping someone has decent backups (Lance would). I'm not opposed to just buying a server and uploading Graal2001 to it.

This is probably the better way to get some kind of momentum, but I can't help but feel that this too would be a wasted effort. Graal on PC does not have the playerbase anymore to make such efforts really worthwhile, and the subscription model doesn't lend itself to new players wanting to download the game either.

Perhaps you could get some kind of agreement from unixmad to complete the transformation into a mobile game, but then micropayments would destroy the very delicate balance that Graal2001 once had. With Classic this was not so much of an issue because there wasn't really an economy in the first place, but on Graal2001 every single gralat counted for some real hours played and there was an amount of progression needed to really get anywhere. If you could just "buy your way in" then it would undo that and take the fun away.

Then there's the question of just how much of a future Graal has anyway. The Windows, Linux and Mac clients seemingly have not had any updates in nearly two years. Other playerworlds have simply fallen by the wayside or been taken offline altogether. There is still no improvement on the developer tools from several years ago.

I think this might be it. :frown:

Torque2D open source fork on Github, anyone?

Crono 07-10-2016 02:07 PM

you dont need dev tools, g2k1 is perfect remember? just upload it and it will bring in the 1000+ players from its own greatness

Skyld 07-10-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1739207)
you dont need dev tools, g2k1 is perfect remember? just upload it and it will bring in the 1000+ players from its own greatness

oh ok

Crono 07-10-2016 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1739208)
oh ok

:pluffy:!

Skyld 07-10-2016 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1739209)
:pluffy:!

:pluffy::pluffy:

Kamaeru 07-10-2016 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1739207)
you dont need dev tools, g2k1 is perfect remember? just upload it and it will bring in the 1000+ players from its own greatness

I mean this hyperbole is way over-exaggerated, but I do think Graal2001 would bring in a surprising number of players initially. Maybe 50-100 for the first few months.

jacob_bald6225 07-11-2016 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamaeru (Post 1739215)
I mean this hyperbole is way over-exaggerated, but I do think Graal2001 would bring in a surprising number of players initially. Maybe 50-100 for the first few months.


If the player count
were sixty five or higher
I would play for sure


Lance 07-15-2016 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamaeru (Post 1739205)
I'm hoping someone has decent backups (Lance would)

yeah

Lance 07-15-2016 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1739206)
Then there's the question of just how much of a future Graal has anyway. The Windows, Linux and Mac clients seemingly have not had any updates in nearly two years. Other playerworlds have simply fallen by the wayside or been taken offline altogether. There is still no improvement on the developer tools from several years ago.

I think this might be it. :frown:

Torque2D open source fork on Github, anyone?

that's sad to hear


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