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Outlaw_P2P 12-23-2010 09:40 PM

Grats on the iphone app era!
 
I have not seen all the staff, but I've seen Masa and a few other strangers. :) gj! I would like to see some improvements though.. imo theres a big lag issue on the iphone 3g. And right outside the hospital is 5 guys with shotguns getting kills off me.

Matt 12-23-2010 09:49 PM

The lag issue is known of course, and i've seen a lot of complaints about it already. So i'm sure someone will look into a solution for that.

p.s. ; They might as well give Era a sub-forum under their own for iPhone players.

xAndrewx 12-24-2010 12:43 AM

Yeah, need to fix the lag. I am the manager of iphone, thank you hehe

Dumdumdidi 12-24-2010 02:29 AM

its virtually impossible not to die every 30 seconds

zenthor 12-24-2010 02:44 AM

I reckon its pretty good lol

12171217 12-24-2010 08:32 AM

The lag has to be fixed by Stefan by minimizing GPU calls (Combining sprites into sprite sheets, sort by texture, THEN render..). Oh, and last time I said this, I got negative rep from some idiot who doesn't believe in optimizing for mobile development. ("you dont know what you're talking about")

I can think of no other reason for slowdown with multiple players on screen.

12171217 12-24-2010 07:47 PM

Hello kids who rated me down.. again..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texture_atlas

Quote:

In an application where many small textures are used frequently, it is often more efficient to store the textures in a texture atlas which is treated as a unit by the graphics hardware. In particular, it is faster to bind one large texture once than to bind many smaller textures as they are drawn.

Dnegel 12-24-2010 08:44 PM

It is pretty obvious, and why do you think the "big" games use all the textures of a model in one file?

fowlplay4 12-24-2010 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12171217 (Post 1617928)
Hello kids who rated me down.. again..

Complaining about receiving a negative rep can only lead to more negative rep, in fact it almost warrants it.

jus sayin'

RegretZ 12-24-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12171217 (Post 1617928)
Hello kids who rated me down.. again..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texture_atlas

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1617939)
Complaining about receiving a negative rep can only lead to more negative rep, in fact it almost warrants it.

jus sayin'

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...manicburns.jpg

12171217 12-24-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1617939)
Complaining about receiving a negative rep can only lead to more negative rep, in fact it almost warrants it.

jus sayin'

I care more about bringing attention to something that warrants concern than my rep, but yeah, texture atlases will probably improve performance when there's multiple players on screen, as there's really no other reason I can think that the game would have slowdown with more players. It's not like it's very CPU-intensive to loop through a list of players. So where does the slowdown come from?

http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/iiam.gif

Could combine heads, bodies, shields onto a texture atlas and then bind the head atlas, render heads, bind the body atlas, render bodies, bind the shield atlas, render shields, etc. It doesn't really fit with Graal's architecture, what with ganis and all, but Graal iPhone shouldn't be a senseless port of a PC game, it should be made to fit the platform. Of course, the maximum texture size on the iPhone is 1024x1024, so you could either build the atlas on the client whenever a new player is added with a different oufit, replacing an old one, or do it on the server for each client and send it over. Once there's more than 9 players on screen (Only 9 bodies could fit on one sheet), you would have to expand into a second sheet.

It's probably quite a bit of work, and I don't really expect anybody to do this much, but as far as where the slowdown comes from?

http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/ms.gif

..and I doubt it'll really ever be fixed.

Dnegel 12-24-2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12171217 (Post 1617942)

what no how?!??!


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