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brokk 04-18-2013 11:07 PM

Moving Forward
 
My question is, how many people actually use V6?

As a developer, I find using the newest version is needed to move forward.

Although, some of the testers that come to my server seem to have issues with some of the features my game provides. The first question I ask is 'Do you use V6?'

100% of them say no...

In the future, will it ever be required to use the new updated version of the Graal client?

Draenin 04-19-2013 02:45 AM

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fowlplay4 04-19-2013 02:53 AM

The non-native player-list and changes to the way font is displayed has put off a lot of players from upgrading to the new version, others also have performance issues which is odd.

xXziroXx 04-19-2013 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1716627)
others also have performance issues which is odd.

I swear, vast majority of Graal players are stuck with their late 90's computers or $200 laptops.

Hezzy002 04-19-2013 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1716628)
I swear, vast majority of Graal players are stuck with their late 90's computers or $200 laptops.

Are you implying Graal isn't poorly written? It's common knowledge that Graal is the most inefficient program in the world.

Draenin 04-19-2013 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hezzy002 (Post 1716631)
Are you implying Graal isn't poorly written? It's common knowledge that Graal is the most inefficient program in the world.

I run it very well now, even in situations where I'm doing very resource-intensive stuff. On a good system, V6 runs quite nicely.

TSAdmin 04-19-2013 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hezzy002 (Post 1716631)
Are you implying Graal isn't poorly written? It's common knowledge that Graal is the most inefficient program in the world.

While true enough, it shouldn't have to be in a developers mind in 2013 to cater their program to work and support those crazy people who never updated a single thing from 1995. Technology is evolving so rapidly that even something from early 2000's is considered outdated and no longer supported. Honestly, why should Graal be held to any different standard?

Hezzy002 04-19-2013 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1716635)
While true enough, it shouldn't have to be in a developers mind in 2013 to cater their program to work and support those crazy people who never updated a single thing from 1995. Technology is evolving so rapidly that even something from early 2000's is considered outdated and no longer supported. Honestly, why should Graal be held to any different standard?

Because tons of people have performance issues and it prevents people from doing anything interesting with the Graal engine?

TSAdmin 04-19-2013 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hezzy002 (Post 1716637)
Because tons of people have performance issues and it prevents people from doing anything interesting with the Graal engine?

Don't use something from 1995 to test it on and you should be set? I've not had a single issue with V6 on either of my PC's, one being from 2006, my primary being custom built in 2012 for super performance, so I can't attest to any complaints I've heard with performance issues on V6, but if my old hunk of junk from a stock 2006 computer catalogue can handle V6 as it was intended, then maybe people are complaining for the wrong reasons and should instead be revising their computer specs compared to modern day standards or even their hardware configuration (Something as simple as AntiAliasing can make games flip out, not something inside the computer itself).

Crono 04-19-2013 03:59 AM

graal should run smoothly on any pc post-2001 considering how little has visually changed since then -.-

but it used to strangely lag on my new laptop in 2008 so who knows

brokk 04-19-2013 03:02 PM

Soooo, back to my question... Is it going to be required in the future to use V6?

cbk1994 04-21-2013 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1716628)
I swear, vast majority of Graal players are stuck with their late 90's computers or $200 laptops.

Many of the performance issues people face on v6 do not exist on v5. I've heard many, many reports from players with modern hardware running XP or 7 that run v5 flawlessly and v6 with very low framerates. Sometimes switching to OpenGL will fix that, sometimes not. Even people with brand-new computers occasionally have problems.

I tried compiling a list of hardware that was having trouble to attempt to identify the issue (a certain OS? graphics card? processor? ???) but couldn't find any pattern.

It strikes me much more as a compatibility issue rather than a raw power issue.

(FWIW, I've never had these types of issues on any device I've ever had, which is odd considering how common they are)

Fulg0reSama 04-21-2013 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1716628)
I swear, vast majority of Graal players are stuck with their late 90's computers or $200 laptops.

I think a 200 dollar laptop could run Graal just fine (at least a current day 200 laptop)
I had a computer from early 2000s with XP that ran Graal just fine with no issues as well.

Also agreed with Chris, it's more then likely a compatibility issue.

xXziroXx 04-21-2013 12:08 PM

Over the years, I've ran Graal on close to 10 different machines. The only one that it lagged on was a stationary from 1999 and a shitty laptop from 2004. I seriously don't understand how people get Graal to lag on their computers.

brokk 04-21-2013 04:06 PM

No it's cool, don't answer my question lol.


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