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jacob_bald6225 05-22-2009 09:14 PM

Smells like stagnation.
 
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Just an observation.

So much false hope given from about 2 months ago when getting a new manager was being highly debated-- **** you to anyone involved with promoting that false hope in order to keep their position or those who used it to get a better position.

Tigairius 05-22-2009 09:29 PM

Smells Like Teen Spirit.

maximus_asinus 05-22-2009 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1493162)
Smells Like Teen Spirit.

dude I totally was going to respond with that line.

unknown 05-22-2009 10:42 PM

lol jacob is the only person who tries to really voice change about classic on the forums, and he doesnt even play does he? jacob werent you zip or something? zippy?

Crono 05-22-2009 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown (Post 1493177)
lol jacob is the only person who tries to really voice change about classic on the forums, and he doesnt even play does he? jacob werent you zip or something? zippy?

ziplock

jacob_bald6225 05-22-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1493185)
ziplock

Yah thats me


Seriously though can something really be done to you know-- fix Classic?

Please?

StrykerTFFD 05-23-2009 02:13 AM

I've been voicing change lately within the staff, gave a lot of ideas to DC/Thor/Storm, yet all I got in return was "I may use some of those" even though they also said "I really like them."

Thor even went as far as to say my ideas were "impressive, better than most he's seen lately." Yet none of them went anywhere because Storm leaves everything to DC who lately hasn't done anything.

It seems any time somebody has a great idea it goes nowhere. Has anyone heard anything about the newspaper idea?

BlackSolider 05-23-2009 02:26 AM

@ newspaper idea

Not since that thread was made.

Not that there'd be anything to report.

MysticX2X 05-23-2009 02:43 AM

I've been trying to get DC to prioritize the newspaper.

jacob_bald6225 05-23-2009 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD (Post 1493231)
I've been voicing change lately within the staff, gave a lot of ideas to DC/Thor/Storm, yet all I got in return was "I may use some of those" even though they also said "I really like them."

Thor even went as far as to say my ideas were "impressive, better than most he's seen lately." Yet none of them went anywhere because Storm leaves everything to DC who lately hasn't done anything.

It seems any time somebody has a great idea it goes nowhere. Has anyone heard anything about the newspaper idea?

You should do as I tried(or intended) to start to do like 2 years ago and post them on the forum complete with concept pictures so you get public responses of approval.

Remonq 05-23-2009 05:42 AM

i'm siding with stryker. i've tried the same with similar responses. part of the problem is that they aren't tasking anybody, the other half is that management hasn't decided on a hit detect system

Rufus 05-23-2009 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225 (Post 1493264)
You should do as I tried(or intended) to start to do like 2 years ago and post them on the forum complete with concept pictures so you get public responses of approval.

Nothing came from them either though.

Remonq 05-23-2009 06:15 PM

rufus you're such a negative nancy!

WanDaMan 05-23-2009 06:25 PM

Doh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remonq (Post 1493397)
rufus you're such a negative nancy!

Oooh, I prefer to think of him as being a realist. He's amazing <3

jacob_bald6225 05-23-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1493351)
Nothing came from them either though.

I know but they were on public record of being suggested.

Rufus 05-23-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remonq (Post 1493397)
rufus you're such a negative nancy!

Yeahhh, these recent threads are totally filled with positivity.

Remonq 05-23-2009 07:11 PM

your mom was filled with positivity

Rufus 05-23-2009 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remonq (Post 1493422)
your mom was filled with positivity

Good one FAQ Admin.

Luda 05-24-2009 01:31 AM

Henrietta: There is no-one more capable to manage this server than myself.

Remonq 05-24-2009 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1493424)
Good one FAQ Admin.

ty, ty

Kamaeru 05-28-2009 03:29 AM

we can do most anything

we got that supertouch

acaremon02 06-10-2009 11:31 AM

About the newspaper (and what went wrong with it):

- Created newspaper template.
- Luda created the graal gfx for it.
- Doahh worked on Newspaper Office Building. The guy disappears.
- I worked on the Newspaper Printing Machine. Waiting for Doahh to come back.
- White Dragon (I think) was working on the template code for newspaper layout.
- Didn't go as smoothly as planned (coding became too complex)
- I decided we should change the Newspaper entirely into an image file..
- But there was disagreement!
- Why? Because the newspaper has to be player run, not staff run!
- If an image file, that means a GFX developer must create a new newspaper each month.
- Luda quit. Thor won't let us use his newspaper gfx.
- White Dragon's gone.
- Doahh's not back.
- Thor's article sucks.
- And thennnnnn, nobody talks about it anymore.

This inaccurate timeline is entirely in my point of view.
Feel free to change stuff around and add information.
I, too, want the newspaper to work out.

Pelikano 06-10-2009 11:51 AM

Can I see the graphics Luda created?

acaremon02 06-10-2009 12:00 PM

Ask Luda or Dev for it. I don't have RC so I can't retrieve the file.

MysticX2X 06-10-2009 01:14 PM

Midi, are you back yet? Sheesh.

Mark Sir Link 06-10-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acaremon02 (Post 1498305)
About the newspaper (and what went wrong with it):

- Created newspaper template.
- Luda created the graal gfx for it.
- Doahh worked on Newspaper Office Building. The guy disappears.
- I worked on the Newspaper Printing Machine. Waiting for Doahh to come back.
- White Dragon (I think) was working on the template code for newspaper layout.
- Didn't go as smoothly as planned (coding became too complex)
- I decided we should change the Newspaper entirely into an image file..
- But there was disagreement!
- Why? Because the newspaper has to be player run, not staff run!
- If an image file, that means a GFX developer must create a new newspaper each month.
- Luda quit. Thor won't let us use his newspaper gfx.
- White Dragon's gone.
- Doahh's not back.
- Thor's article sucks.
- And thennnnnn, nobody talks about it anymore.

This inaccurate timeline is entirely in my point of view.
Feel free to change stuff around and add information.
I, too, want the newspaper to work out.

mind boggling that making a GUI was "too hard"

Luda 06-10-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1498311)
Can I see the graphics Luda created?

Why are you interested? If it's still on the server ask for the newspaper npc and you should see it, it's the graphic in the gani where it looks like you are looking at your map.

jacob_bald6225 06-10-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1498385)
mind boggling that making a GUI was "too hard"

Yah I know I could see how newspapers could be similarly made as to how you and hell raven did my poster idea on your server.

Pelikano 06-10-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luda (Post 1498416)
Why are you interested? If it's still on the server ask for the newspaper npc and you should see it, it's the graphic in the gani where it looks like you are looking at your map.

Will ask Thor for it.

If it's a GUI, it doesn't need THAT much scripting

Mark Sir Link 06-10-2009 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225 (Post 1498444)
Yah I know I could see how newspapers could be similarly made as to how you and hell raven did my poster idea on your server.

the text overlaying is easy, the only part that was slightly challenging were the special effects Hell Raven added where it zoomed and spinned.

jacob_bald6225 06-11-2009 01:12 AM

Okay so for the recent ideas:


I guess black and white graals are a positive? I would disagree because really--I could have made those by mixing and matching scripts from the GC tools.

Doahh_p2p 06-11-2009 04:47 AM

I'm Back!

Rufus 06-11-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225 (Post 1498534)
I guess black and white graals are a positive? I would disagree because really--I could have made those by mixing and matching scripts from the GC tools.

I actually think this was successful, but not to the full extent it could have been. Quite a few newer players logged on daily JUST to find the Graals and they probably would have stuck around too (I know some of them would like to) but through lack of things to do and lack of a finish on the Graals you can't really expect it. It should have been released in conjunction with other content, or at least at a stage where another release seemed possible as it isn't something that works on its own for very long. Then again, it has been 3 weeks after the release and they're still bug ridden and don't feel finished; maybe they shouldn't have been released yet at all.

Pelikano 06-11-2009 11:20 AM

Local Guilds was denied by you guys, so shush!

jacob_bald6225 06-12-2009 12:58 AM

The real question that bothers me is if Classic is broke why is nobody trying their hardest to fix it?!

BlackSolider 06-12-2009 02:28 AM

Hmmm...fixing classic all day (a seemingly thankless and endless task) or doing anything else....hmmm....

jacob_bald6225 06-12-2009 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSolider (Post 1498775)
Hmmm...fixing classic all day (a seemingly thankless and endless task) or doing anything else....hmmm....

Hmmm... staying in staff position and not doing work or stepping aside... hmm...

MysticX2X 06-12-2009 03:00 AM

Excuse Gladius for being a little ignorant. He hasn't fully embraced the responsibilities of a staff member.

BlackSolider 06-12-2009 03:03 AM

Excuse Mystic for being very ignorant. He hasn't fully embraced the reality of life.

MysticX2X 06-15-2009 12:52 AM

Who cares about your life. If you can't balance your staff duties, you should quit.


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