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Cruchot 05-09-2007 07:26 PM

GK Staff probleme
 
Well , l think there is already a post like this, but nothing was done about it.

I'm asking to myself why there isn't any staff on GK ?
Why is there no GPs ?
Why is there no FAQ ?
Why is there no admins ?
I dont think its normal to have no staff on a gold server , where people pay
for playing , and they have no staff ...
Every other server got a lot of kind of staff , but not Graal Kingdoms...
l think this server should be in the classic tab lol, or maybe the hosted tab.

Stephen 05-09-2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruchot (Post 1306587)
Well , l think there is already a post like this, but nothing was done about it.

I'm asking to myself why there isn't any staff on GK ?
Why is there no GPs ?
Why is there no FAQ ?
Why is there no admins ?
I dont think its normal to have no staff on a gold server , where people pay
for playing , and they have no staff ...
Every other server got a lot of kind of staff , but not Graal Kingdoms...
l think this server should be in the classic tab lol, or maybe the hosted tab.

You have to make support tickets for these kind of issues. It's funny how I was removed from moderator here and never given the courtesy of an explanation.

Chandler 05-09-2007 07:30 PM

I kind of agree, I don't see much point in a GP position on GK though.

Ravenblade1979 05-09-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruchot (Post 1306587)
I'm asking to myself why there isn't any staff on GK ?

There is..mostly me and whatever other EM may be on. Sam is busy and comes on when needed. Bjorn is in the middle of a update to hopefully come soon.

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Originally Posted by Cruchot
Why is there no GPs ?

This you would have to ask bjorn on. I couldn't honestly tell you. I do point ppl to help desk if its really needed.

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Originally Posted by Cruchot
Why is there no FAQ ?

They are trying to get a FAQ team together. Again with the updates coming they been a bit too busy so I answer questions myself if I can.

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Originally Posted by Cruchot
Why is there no admins ?

Again Sam comes on when he's needed and Bjorn is working on a update currently and will pop in from time to time. Mostly I will try to help if I can but always point them to the help desk if its something I can't handle.

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Originally Posted by Cruchot
I dont think its normal to have no staff on a gold server , where people payfor playing , and they have no staff ...Every other server got a lot of kind of staff , but not Graal Kingdoms...l think this server should be in the classic tab lol, or maybe the hosted tab.

Again I will say this. Bjorn's busy working on a upcoming update. Sam will come on when needed. I do however agree that we need staff on everyday at least. I guess I am the closest thing there is when they aren't around and no trouble usually arises anyways. If some does I will point the people to the help desk or I will forum pm Sam and Bjorn myself. They are usually good about coming on to deal with a problem if it arises.

Hope this has helped you some.

*waits for the bashing to start*

Sam 05-09-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruchot (Post 1306587)
stuff

We decided not to hire GP's anymore.
Staff can always contacted by forum PM or support ticket.
At the moment I don't think we need additional FAQ staff, Ravenblade and the other EM's are able to help on request.

Ravenblade1979 05-09-2007 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1306600)
We decided not to hire GP's anymore.
Staff can always contacted by forum PM or support ticket.
At the moment I don't think we need additional FAQ staff, Ravenblade and the other EM's are able to help on request.


No more GP's...hmmm nice. At least I have the rules..heh.

Googi 05-09-2007 09:29 PM

There's no point having GPs if they're inept to deal with problems like scamming, etc.

Sam 05-09-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1306608)
There's no point having GPs if they're inept to deal with problems like scamming, etc.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=59503

No GP's needed if people be careful with their items

Ravenblade1979 05-09-2007 11:06 PM

bookmarked the page.

sango_ku 05-10-2007 12:41 PM

Yann are back haha .... ^^

Ravenblade1979 05-10-2007 04:26 PM

Yup he is.

dNeonb 05-10-2007 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1306608)
There's no point having GPs if they're inept to deal with problems like scamming, etc.

Even in the past when we had a few people who were able to do this we did not have GP's. I have to admitt that the GP thing was not really a great idea. It always worked without so why shouldn't it now?

Tigairius 05-10-2007 07:16 PM

I would have to agree with Björn on this one...

sango_ku 05-10-2007 07:53 PM

Is true ... i'm agree with Yann ...
much member scamme noob or legal member and after a scammer have nothing because "don't proof" ! Why all staff aren't online for stoped that ?

Sam 05-10-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sango_ku (Post 1306808)
Why all staff aren't online for stoped that ?

Because you shall care on your stuff. Don't lend items to others and you don't get scammed.

Chandler 05-10-2007 08:08 PM

What about trade tables? If I were to receive an item when someone pressed green on mistake, what shall occour!

Crow 05-10-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1306811)
What about trade tables? If I were to receive an item when someone pressed green on mistake, what shall occour!

If you are a good guy, you will give it back. If not, he has to contact a staff member ;o

Ravenblade1979 05-10-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1306811)
What about trade tables? If I were to receive an item when someone pressed green on mistake, what shall occour!

Umm if it was a mistake then give it back to them.

Ravenblade1979 05-10-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sango_ku (Post 1306808)
Is true ... i'm agree with Yann ...
much member scamme noob or legal member and after a scammer have nothing because "don't proof" ! Why all staff aren't online for stoped that ?


If I remember at one point I had heard that you were scamming people.


Anyways plain and simple they decided on no GP's...end of story.

Sam 05-10-2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1306811)
What about trade tables? If I were to receive an item when someone pressed green on mistake, what shall occour!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1306812)
If you are a good guy, you will give it back.


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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1306812)
If not, he has to contact a staff member ;o

No, because all we can do is ask him to give it back.

CABAL49 05-12-2007 04:35 AM

Still i am not very impressed with enforcement, two years ago I reported someone who was posing as staff asking for passwords and "selling" playerworlds. As far as I know I was ignored.

MisterMastermind 05-12-2007 06:37 AM

Cross server trading, USDing, scamming, something honestly needs to be done about all of it.

Googi 05-12-2007 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1306815)
No, because all we can do is ask him to give it back.

You can pillory him and keep him pilloried until he agrees to give it back.

Ravenblade1979 05-12-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1307220)
You can pillory him and keep him pilloried until he agrees to give it back.

Even that don't work. Me and Bjorn spent like a hour or so on a guy. I had originally pillored him for scamming someone of their demon shield and when Bjorn was on this person agreed to give it back but when I released him the person did a unstick me and went to the dungeon to hide he demon shield.
Thankfully the rightful owner got it back in the end. But this is a good example of how much pillory can and cannot work.

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1307219)
Cross server trading, USDing, scamming, something honestly needs to be done about all of it.


For now pilloring on us EM's part and reporting them to sam and bjorn I guess is whats going to happen.

Googi 05-12-2007 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1307257)
Even that don't work. Me and Bjorn spent like a hour or so on a guy. I had originally pillored him for scamming someone of their demon shield and when Bjorn was on this person agreed to give it back but when I released him the person did a unstick me and went to the dungeon to hide he demon shield.
Thankfully the rightful owner got it back in the end. But this is a good example of how much pillory can and cannot work.

If the guy got his item back, then it worked.

The problems that arise in this example come from kid-glove treatment of the scammer. He should have to give you the item right then and there when you let him out or he goes back in the pillory. He decides he's going to hold out until the staff who's on has to go? Too bad for him, he'll have to stay pilloried until he can make an agreement with another staff member.

Ravenblade1979 05-12-2007 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1307300)
If the guy got his item back, then it worked.

The problems that arise in this example come from kid-glove treatment of the scammer. He should have to give you the item right then and there when you let him out or he goes back in the pillory. He decides he's going to hold out until the staff who's on has to go? Too bad for him, he'll have to stay pilloried until he can make an agreement with another staff member.

Yeah I had someone beg me today to let them out of pillory. Told them that they had to serve their time. On friday they massed that they were selling a battleon and RS account. He knows he has to serve his time.

dNeonb 05-12-2007 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1307220)
You can pillory him and keep him pilloried until he agrees to give it back.

Scammers are banned. If they don't want to be banned they can give it back. If not... then ban.

Chandler 05-13-2007 12:14 AM

There is ALOT of contradiction in this thread.

kia345 05-13-2007 12:32 AM

Make items easier to get and there'd be no reason to scam

kenyonandelliot 05-13-2007 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1307332)
Make items easier to get and there'd be no reason to scam

That won't solve anything.. People will complain because their stuff goes down in value and whats the fun if bjorn and stefan make everything easier.. It's already easy as it is to do a lot of stuff.

zell12 05-13-2007 07:05 AM

If staff can only ask for the player to give back the item, why the hell are Event Staff Pillorying players? They have no right doing that... x-x

Sam 05-13-2007 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zell12 (Post 1307375)
If staff can only ask for the player to give back the item, why the hell are Event Staff Pillorying players? They have no right doing that... x-x

Are you the person who make the rules what staff rights are? :noob:

Ravenblade1979 05-13-2007 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zell12 (Post 1307375)
If staff can only ask for the player to give back the item, why the hell are Event Staff Pillorying players? They have no right doing that... x-x

Umm according to Sam. We Em's are staff as well. Don't know if you caught that in another topic but he said it.

With there being no GP's on and Sam and Bjorn barely on we EM's are basically the closest thing to GP's. Are we to sit by and let the server degenerate into something that resembles a looting spree after everyone starts to riot? Hell no.

People stop fighting us. We are there to enforce the rules best we can. So what if we pillor you. Staff will be forum pm'd or emailed asap so they can come on and deal with you appropriatly and swiftly so either you can just serve your time and go play again or be banned.

If you want total chaos where nothing nor no one is safe then by all means boycott us EM's having pillory rights. You will wish we had them if you won that boycott.

oinknessx 05-16-2007 05:38 AM

You keep mentioning this update. Any details on it, other than "Bjorn's working on it?" Because I've been hearing that for a long time. I've been listening to people say "we're updating!" since 2001 and I don't know why I'm still waiting for those updates. :p

Oh and about staff, Kingdoms needs to hire developers to get some stuff added and such.

And whats the deal with this "full time scripting team" Graal hired years ago? What do they ever do?

kenyonandelliot 05-16-2007 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oinknessx (Post 1308330)
And whats the deal with this "full time scripting team" Graal hired years ago? What do they ever do?

Tell stories at the campfire?

Ravenblade1979 05-16-2007 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oinknessx (Post 1308330)
You keep mentioning this update. Any details on it, other than "Bjorn's working on it?" Because I've been hearing that for a long time. I've been listening to people say "we're updating!" since 2001 and I don't know why I'm still waiting for those updates. :p

Oh and about staff, Kingdoms needs to hire developers to get some stuff added and such.

And whats the deal with this "full time scripting team" Graal hired years ago? What do they ever do?

There is no definite time when the update will happen. So could be by Christmas for all I know.

oinknessx 05-16-2007 10:28 PM

Bjorn said he had no idea about an update when I asked him on GK today. :D

CABAL49 05-16-2007 11:23 PM

There definetly needs to be better communication between staf and players.

Stephen 05-16-2007 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1307437)
With there being no GP's on and Sam and Bjorn barely on we EM's are basically the closest thing to GP's. Are we to sit by and let the server degenerate into something that resembles a looting spree after everyone starts to riot? Hell no.

But, as far as I understand - the administration would like the player to use the support tickets for any problems they have.

Crono 05-17-2007 12:15 AM

more like "spelling probleme"

Why are people talking about updates anyway? The game channel thing was supposed to be up months ago.


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