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Em 12-05-2006 01:14 AM

Till Death, CG Art
 
Something I drew today. The meaning should be fairly self explanatory, hopefully. On a side note, this would be considered CG Art, right ?

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/5918/tilldeath2ac0.jpg

Galdor 12-05-2006 01:20 AM

uhh not sure about that yellow thingy... but the skull looks cool =)

Em 12-05-2006 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Galdor (Post 1250282)
uhh not sure about that yellow thingy... but the skull looks cool =)

The yellow thing is intentional, it's part of what I'm saying.

oh and this is the full skull :
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3...ullfullxt7.jpg

excaliber7388 12-05-2006 01:34 AM

Very cool.
Is it something against marriage, by any chance?

Em 12-05-2006 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1250286)
Very cool.
Is it something against marriage, by any chance?

Nope :P

Galdor 12-05-2006 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Em (Post 1250283)
The yellow thing is intentional, it's part of what I'm saying.

You make my head hurt...

Mykel 12-05-2006 02:15 AM

The meaning isn't self explainitory. Explain. :)

Crono 12-05-2006 02:15 AM

something to do with money?

Tom 12-05-2006 03:24 AM

Everytime you post something i change my background :P Love this one, reminds me of gears of war

Luda 12-05-2006 03:45 AM

I like the skull on an angle better, great work :)

Infernix 12-05-2006 03:59 AM

You could make some very popular wallpapers my dude if you stopped puitting that hilscher crap on there. GOD!

Crono 12-05-2006 04:17 AM

You should take requests :]

Eagle 12-05-2006 04:26 AM

Hmmm, according to the numbers at the top, I will think that that is how long you have to live before death? As in we're all timed or something.

Stephen 12-05-2006 04:36 AM

Beh, don't like it. Your skull - the shape of it is all sloppy.

Infernix 12-05-2006 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1250355)
Beh, don't like it. Your skull - the shape of it is all sloppy.

Funny thing is, its suppose to be like that o_o.

Em 12-05-2006 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1250355)
Beh, don't like it. Your skull - the shape of it is all sloppy.

Do you mean the style, or the shapes / anatomy ?
I actually did that on purpose.

CidNight1142 12-05-2006 05:31 AM

The meaning is not self-explanatory in the least.

Holocaust, maybe?

Stephen 12-05-2006 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Em (Post 1250365)
Do you mean the style, or the shapes / anatomy ?
I actually did that on purpose.

Just the shape. Regardless of intention, I just don't like it. But... that's only my opinion so no biggy :D

Mafukie 12-05-2006 08:05 PM

1280x1024 res possibly? looks too stretched out with res provided. Thanks in advance

Em 12-05-2006 08:43 PM

Here you go, 1280x1024 rez :
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7...lldeathix7.jpg

Myomoto 12-05-2006 08:50 PM

Really cool, I like the barcode.

Mykel 12-05-2006 08:58 PM

Explain It

Myomoto 12-05-2006 09:19 PM

I honestly don't get it either.

Heh, we're such a bunch of pricks.

"Waah waah! Stop making abstract stuff with no clear meaning, leaving the entire interpretation up to us, waah!"

"Ok, here's something, where I want to express a message."

"Wtf does it mean?! TEELL!"

Stephen 12-05-2006 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Myomoto (Post 1250544)
I honestly don't get it either.

Heh, we're such a bunch of pricks.

"Waah waah! Stop making abstract stuff with no clear meaning, leaving the entire interpretation up to us, waah!"

"Ok, here's something, where I want to express a message."

"Wtf does it mean?! TEELL!"

Huh :oo:

Myomoto 12-05-2006 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1250548)
Huh :oo:

I live in my own little world, you didn't know?

Em 12-05-2006 10:03 PM

The bar code is meant to signify that we have become little more than a numbered product in the eyes of the corporate machine. The fact that it is on a skull shows that we are products from birth till death, and that it is our only authentic value in the eyes of our capitalist consumer culture. The yellow is meant to offset this by adding an element of the ridiculous. The piece is meant as a satire.

I'm of the opinion that the bar code isn't nearly evident enough, and that the idea is lost. I will probably create a montage later on, in which other elements will make the message more clear.

Stephen 12-05-2006 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Em (Post 1250558)
The bar code is meant to signify that we have become little more than a numbered product in the eyes of the corporate machine. The fact that it is on a skull shows that we are products from birth till death, and that it is our only authentic value in the eyes of our capitalist consumer culture. The yellow is meant to offset this by adding an element of the ridiculous. The piece is meant as a satire.

I generally keep away from the political art. Every dog and their cat is doing it nowadays.

Em 12-05-2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1250559)
I generally keep away from the political art. Every dog and their cat is doing it nowadays.

I've read a lot on capitalism, consumerism, globalization, and many associated ideas. I choose to incorporate these themes into some of my designs because it pleases me, and I believe in what I think. Since I'm doing it for fun, I don't see why I shouldn't.

If you're talking about originality, well, good luck. I'm of the mind that it's more or less impossible to be original, so the fact that other people do it is of little consequence to me.

Stephen 12-05-2006 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Em (Post 1250563)
I've read a lot on capitalism, consumerism, globalization, and many associated ideas.

Got any reference material for interested parties?

Em 12-06-2006 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1250567)
Got any reference material for interested parties?

A short history on progress - Ronald Wright
Although this book isn't specifically about any of those topics, it's interesting and enlightening. Definitely worth reading if you're interested in where we've been, as a species, and consequently where we might be headed.

War and peace in the global village - Marshall McLuhan

Stephen 12-06-2006 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Em (Post 1250603)
War and peace in the global village - Marshall McLuhan

Neither of these books deal with any of the topics you mentioned, and deal specifically with a sociology.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Em (Post 1250603)
A short history on progress - Ronald Wright

...And I just couldn't find anything about this aside from some MySpace entries.

References, please.

Devil 12-06-2006 02:34 AM

I actually like it :D

Em 12-06-2006 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1250635)
Neither of these books deal with any of the topics you mentioned, and deal specifically with a sociology.

...And I just couldn't find anything about this aside from some MySpace entries.

References, please.

I know.. I just said they don't deal with it specifically. Do you want me to list the university text books i've read on the subject ? I put those two out because they are an interesting read. And yes, a short history of progress does deal with globalization quite specifically. It's one of the main factors the author uses in his argument. And then obviously Capitalism gets drawn into the equation since it more or less goes hand in hand with globalization.

If you really want to have a discussion about this feel free to add me to msn.

A short history on Progress -> http://www.amazon.com/Short-History-.../dp/0786715472


For your entertainment, here are some of the more boring books that i've read.

Simulacra and Simulation - Jean Baudrillard
Postmodernism, or, the cultural logic of late capitalism - Fredric Jameson
The Postmodern condition: a report on knowledge - Jean-Francois Lyotard
Practices of Looking - Marita Sturken

I've also read countless journals, which helped me in the writing process of a number of essays.
Really interested ? I could send you some.

Mykel 12-06-2006 07:39 AM

You thought that was self explainitory? :(

Stephen 12-07-2006 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Em (Post 1250704)
Do you want me to list the university text books i've read on the subject ?

Yeap.

Tom 12-07-2006 02:36 AM

Stephen doesnt like it when people talk more technical about art than him :P

Also, i like the whole barcode, product from birth balah blah. Tis cool.

Em 12-07-2006 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1250976)
Yeap.

I listed the books University books I've read up above.

Simulacra and Simulation - Jean Baudrillard .. ect

Stephen 12-07-2006 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Em (Post 1250704)
Simulacra and Simulation - Jean Baudrillard
Postmodernism, or, the cultural logic of late capitalism - Fredric Jameson
The Postmodern condition: a report on knowledge - Jean-Francois Lyotard
Practices of Looking - Marita Sturken

These, including "Postmodernism, or, the cultural logic of late capitalism", are all sociological books. I hope you don't consider Adbusters a informed newsletter. :whatever:

Crono 12-07-2006 04:47 AM

Em if I showed you a picture of a car could you make a background based off of it? Pretty please :(

Magadal 12-07-2006 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1251045)
Em if I showed you a picture of a car could you make a background based off of it? Pretty please :(

I could also make you one out of a car, but you wouldnt really know that it was a car once...


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