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Sam 10-27-2004 06:15 PM

Stefan please act in favour of the players
 
When will the dictatorship in Forest finally be terminated?
I think it may not be useful, that an individual person, who is only very rarely online, paralyzes a whole kingdom, and limits different players.
Hereby I ask Stefan for a clear decision in favour of the player majority.

Schlurfy

GoZelda 10-27-2004 06:39 PM

Right. You know, this will probably be ignored. Your point may be clear to me (I guess you want Chris removed and be king instead), but Stefan might think 'liek wtf?'. And who is this 'player majority' you are speaking of?

Sam 10-27-2004 07:42 PM

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Your point may be clear to me (I guess you want Chris removed and be king instead), but Stefan might think 'liek wtf?'. And who is this 'player majority' you are speaking of?
No, I dont wanna be king of forest. I think there are some player that are members of forest and they could do a good job, if the leader would let them.
And the player majority are that players who like to become a member of that kingdom, or the members that are still a member without any rank.

Sam 10-27-2004 07:45 PM

Emily, I dont think it is only a problem of the members of forest. Its also a problem of the whole game, when one kingdom is blocked by 1 person.

Slash-P2P 10-27-2004 09:40 PM

Kingdom Kings and Queens should have elections or something every few months or so to prevent someone from dominating a kingdom. And if someone is elected twice or so, they cannot be elected again and so on...Kind of like the U.S. Presidential Election.

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"YOU THE KING OF THE FOREST!?" - Harold and Kumar go to White Castle

GoZelda 10-27-2004 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Slash-P2P
Kingdom Kings and Queens should have elections or something every few months or so to prevent someone from dominating a kingdom. And if someone is elected twice or so, they cannot be elected again and so on...Kind of like the U.S. Presidential Election.

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"YOU THE KING OF THE FOREST!?" - Harold and Kumar go to White Castle

Yeah. That's why it's called Kingdoms.

Sam 10-27-2004 10:11 PM

I dont think it is helpful to be cynical.

GoZelda 10-27-2004 10:13 PM

I think it is.

xAndrewx 10-27-2004 11:22 PM

There is no members in forest.

Zurkiba 10-27-2004 11:34 PM

I personally created the majority of Forest... the basic ideas and so on. Personally I think Forest should remain the way it is because there needs to be LESS kingdoms acually. I mean look how active the current kingdoms are.

Secondly... about the elections comment. No . Graal is already too corrupt as it is (in a player sense) and I can easily win a kingdom if I offer everyone a free Ring of War or 100 plat for a vote. Last time 2k2 had a vote to elect Kingdom leaders... well we have the Human Zormites who refuse to RP. So obviously voting wont work on 2k2. As for the two term system. Why in the hell? Are you saying someone as important to the pirates as Ghost Pirate should've only been leader for two terms? I think not.

GryffonDurime 10-28-2004 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
Yeah. That's why it's called Kingdoms.

But there in lies a key point! These people ARE NOT KINGS, QUEENS, OR MONARCHS OF ANY KIND. Their members are not their pawns- they all form a community of RPers, and it is the King or Queen's job to ensure the community is happy and active. They will do this for a while, and they will leave.

Just a little tyrate on reality vs graality

Admins 10-28-2004 12:38 AM

From what I see, is that Forest kingdom staff are working on the new forest island, with different tiles and stuff. If the members want a new king or queen they can probably organize something and speak with the king about how to make a roleplayish turnover.

Sam 10-28-2004 12:44 AM

Ok, that sound not bad, but all I know from talking with others is, that the chance is not very big to catch the king to talk about that.
But we will see what will happens the next weeks.

Zurkiba 10-28-2004 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Schlurfy
Ok, that sound not bad, but all I know from talking with others is, that the chance is not very big to catch the king to talk about that.
But we will see what will happens the next weeks.

Forum PM... plus I'm sure he'll read the forums

Sam 10-28-2004 01:08 AM

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Orginally posted by Zurkiba
I mean look how active the current kingdoms are.
Crescent Pirates are very active. ^^

Elder Sam Schlurf

Slash-P2P 10-28-2004 01:18 AM

How about Stefan allows servers to have archetype files and whatnot and delete Graal Kingdoms? Theres so much corruption there...

Zurkiba 10-28-2004 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Schlurfy
Crescent Pirates are very active. ^^

Elder Sam Schlurf

notice how I used kingdoms
with an s...
Meaning not one.

It defeats the purpose if there is only one.

Splke 10-28-2004 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2003_emily_2003
Maybe you should like let the members of Forest decide that :whatever:

Maybe you should be a member before supporting, or acting to support Forest.


As for this thread, you aren't Forest, you never will be now, and I just want to let you know, I've seen most of the tiles, level( idea of it at least) and all the items made for Forest, so long as Chris is working, you can't de-throne him. Forest won't be handed to anybody but me or somebody with an actual idea of how to do GFX or had previous experiences... only reason I said me was because I'm prince

Closing, Zurki, I doubt you could win by offering just 100 plat, you'd need like.. 1 EA per vote or something, and winning like that would need support from corruption or 24/7 playing.

--Chris-- 10-28-2004 08:09 AM

Funny that someone with 11 post who I've never even seen on Graal makes this thread after I remove someone hardly capable of speaking english that was added without my approval to begin with.

There was a vote about it on more than one occasion.

I am online every day and on Graal + Forums quite frequently along with AIM + MSN just about 24/7.

Here's something to decide on:

Choice A: Screw major updates, I'll just transfer the craftable items and one tournament item, the wand shop, (maybe) use some of the new trees and a card shop for now and run Forest the way I used to.

Choice B: You continue to wait.

Sam 10-28-2004 11:54 AM

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Orginally postet by SpIkeMaybe you should be a member before supporting, or acting to support Forest.
To have and express my onw opinion I dont need to be a member of a kingdom. Thats a part of democratic live. I dont know where are you from, but I still hope for you that it is a democratic country.

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Originally Posted by --Chris--
Funny that someone with 11 post who I've never even seen on Graal makes this thread after I remove someone hardly capable of speaking english that was added without my approval to begin with.

There was a vote about it on more than one occasion.

I am online every day and on Graal + Forums quite frequently along with AIM + MSN just about 24/7.

We talking about some different things.
1. Making GFX for the kingdom(s) is one. I think you make a very good job.
2. Being King of Forest.
Here are the problems: You live in one timezone, others in a another timezone.
So I think it is helpful to have not only 1 person having all rights and duties so one else can handle.
So if you would be interesed in the best for your kingdom, you would look for some people that will help you to do what have to do.
And btw: I have over 1770 online hours on GK.
And I have also never ever seen you too.

xAndrewx 10-28-2004 12:09 PM

Only because the leader is lazy to begin with forest again, its all down to the "development", let the "development" team work on the stuff and you work on your kingdom...as a king.

Jaquet 10-28-2004 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Slash-P2P
Kingdom Kings and Queens should have elections or something every few months or so to prevent someone from dominating a kingdom. And if someone is elected twice or so, they cannot be elected again and so on...Kind of like the U.S. Presidential Election.

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"YOU THE KING OF THE FOREST!?" - Harold and Kumar go to White Castle

Kingdoms are not Representative governments, they dont elect people they wait till the next in line to the throne so that would not seem right for this server because kings and queens are not elected. And yeah I think chris should be removed because he removed calani's rank after they broke up (thats what i heard)

syltburk 10-28-2004 12:36 PM

Lyndzey was the best =)..

Zurkiba 10-28-2004 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Splke
Closing, Zurki, I doubt you could win by offering just 100 plat, you'd need like.. 1 EA per vote or something, and winning like that would need support from corruption or 24/7 playing.

I live in old school 2k2... where 25 plat was acually something. And level 8 was like 'Hot Damn he has a high level'

protagonist 10-28-2004 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
I live in old school 2k2... where 25 plat was acually something. And level 8 was like 'Hot Damn he has a high level'


Won't it be nice when they make a new 2k2 server?

--Chris-- 10-28-2004 03:38 PM

Time-zone has nothing to do with it, the times I'm online are inconsistant. Sometimes you'd see me for a few hours at 3:00am and other times I'd be on at 3:00pm, it varies depending on my day.

Andrew duder, unfortunately, I am the development team and it's bloody hard to get the assistance I need where my skills lack.

Syltburk: Lyndzey was my RP daughter and I gave her Samurai.

Did I not leave a choice? (Again.)

Zurkiba 10-28-2004 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Won't it be nice when they make a new 2k2 server?

The day that happens or the day they fix 2k2 is the day I come back and start to conquer it all again :) Fun

GoZelda 10-28-2004 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
The day that happens or the day they fix 2k2 is the day I come back and start to conquer it all again :) Fun

Then day that happens is when hell freezes over.

Zurkiba 10-28-2004 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
Then day that happens is when hell freezes over.

Heard that one before :)

GryffonDurime 10-28-2004 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
Then day that happens is when hell freezes over.

Funny, I heard they had a blizzard in the Deep South *hinthintnudgenudge* a day or two ago over a certain baseball team.

If they can break the Curse, then Zurk can surely conquer the world

Damix2 10-28-2004 09:31 PM

I choose option A

xAndrewx 10-29-2004 09:03 PM

What exactly needs to be done, Dude forest is fine, It's taking years.. Just get it up and running, bring out a new shield/wand/what ever and then worry about the development..

Slash-P2P 10-29-2004 09:24 PM

You don't need to redo everything on an island to make it great. Recolor an item and give it a different name and players will flock to it and fight over it.

zell12 10-29-2004 10:33 PM

I really think some people are over reacting. Just wait for it to be finished. If you contune to complain, i'll have to smite you.

Loriel 10-30-2004 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Won't it be nice when they make a new 2k2 server?

Only a matter of time until that one would revert to the current one's state... ?

Splke 10-30-2004 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
Only a matter of time until that one would revert to the current one's state... ?

Due to what? The complexity of the server allowing "glitches" and exploits of selling items?

Or due to corruption, USD, and allowance of bugs for <x days>.

Loriel 10-30-2004 11:13 AM

Powergaming and unbalanced game mechanics.

Splke 10-30-2004 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
Powergaming and unbalanced game mechanics.

Powergamaing can't be stopped, but incompetance is a result of on-going, correctable game mechanics. :\

xAndrewx 10-30-2004 02:51 PM

There is a lot of bugs.

Loriel 10-30-2004 03:07 PM

Would it not be the other way around?


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