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foxstar70 06-18-2001 07:12 PM

server on 1.28....
 
i was wonder who here can setup a server on 1.28? please reply

Kaimetsu 06-18-2001 07:15 PM

Kick me if I'm wrong, but isn't that illegal?

Fai 06-18-2001 07:23 PM

NO ILLEGAL IS A SICK BIRD

Kaimetsu 06-18-2001 07:34 PM

Sorry, Fai, my mistake. Then isn't it against the law?

waar 06-18-2001 08:00 PM

as far as i know, 1.28 servers are not illegal. hell, the gserver for it is freeware.

Admins 06-18-2001 08:02 PM

It's not freeware!

You can setup a v1.27 server as long as it is only
used for local networks games.

waar 06-18-2001 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
It's not freeware!
as i recall it was featured in the 1.28 zip file of graal, was it not? i guess it is not freeware anymore, but it once was.

Admins 06-18-2001 08:21 PM

Graal is not freeware,
and never was

Fai 06-18-2001 08:26 PM

but


its free

cheaterzx22 06-18-2001 09:42 PM

Quote:

You can setup a v1.27 server as long as it is only used for local networks games.
What would you play LAN games with graal for? Anyway, if you still have the old gserver shouldn't you still be able to use it?

Bhala 06-18-2001 10:00 PM

its shareware not freeware

activeconvict 06-18-2001 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bhala
its shareware not freeware

CrazedMerlin 06-18-2001 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bhala
its shareware not freeware
Quoting is the thing to do!

Rekad 06-18-2001 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrazedMerlin

Quoting is the thing to do!


Tybalt 06-18-2001 10:44 PM

I think that 1.28 public servers being illegal is absolutely horrible.

CrazedMerlin 06-18-2001 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by Rekad
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Originally posted by CrazedMerlin

Quoting is the thing to do!
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Spyder5782 06-18-2001 10:50 PM

Re: server on 1.28....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by foxstar70
i was wonder who here can setup a server on 1.28? please reply
Stefan made it illegal to make servers I think. But you would need Gserv

cheaterzx22 06-18-2001 11:29 PM

I miss the old days when people could make their own server. Cause most of those servers were WAY better than the playerworlds are now. It was fun when guilds could make their own server for the members to play on. Why cant we have that now?

SSmutz 06-18-2001 11:36 PM

I think what it is, is that you can run a 1.28 Gserver in private with only a few people, for testing PWs, levels, NPCs in online mode, etc. But you can't run one as if it is its own playerworld and advertise it and make a website for it etc.

Admins 06-18-2001 11:39 PM

It was written in the readme.txt of those
older versions that the gserver is only for
local networks.
The Graal client is free, that doesn't mean that
your are allowed to distribute it , modify it etc.,
so its not freeware
Player-run servers are a good idea but since
the server is the only source of income we
cannot allow it. E.g. counterstrike has free
servers, but they are making money with selling
the game, so the game client itself is not free,
but it includes a server (of simple and
limited architecture)

Tybalt 06-18-2001 11:39 PM

Stefan: Why exactly is it 'illegal' to make 1.28 servers.

Tybalt 06-18-2001 11:40 PM

Well 1.28 has crap scripting and stuff compared to now, players don't alter the client at all with 1.28 gserver.

cheaterzx22 06-18-2001 11:46 PM

I see stefan's point. But i still miss the old days.

SSmutz 06-18-2001 11:48 PM

I remember when Graal had that dns problem and no one was able to connect to Graal except for staff. So everyone started 1.28 servers to pass the time.

cheaterzx22 06-19-2001 12:15 AM

Hey, since gserver is only for local network use, what if someone wrote their own server prog for graal?

WeirdmanI9 06-19-2001 12:15 AM

Why would hosting a game on your own computer be illegal? What is Stefan gonna do, sue 14 and 15 year old kids?

Huggles 06-19-2001 12:28 AM

Unixmad I think tried to move all servers to Graal..... I couldnt believe it when Damasca gave in.... I mean I liked that server... And I hated it when they moved to Graal =/

Crono Illusion 06-19-2001 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huggles
Unixmad I think tried to move all servers to Graal..... I couldnt believe it when Damasca gave in.... I mean I liked that server... And I hated it when they moved to Graal =/
I couldn't believe it either. However, they refused to go P2P, but died shortly after when XDaKreepX deleted their main continent and quit working. Since they no longer had their best levels and didn't want to use the Graal client anymore, they're working on making their own client and server software for themselves.

manton 06-19-2001 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huggles
Unixmad I think tried to move all servers to Graal..... I couldnt believe it when Damasca gave in.... I mean I liked that server... And I hated it when they moved to Graal =/
God I loved that. I played it more often than the main server.

Crono Illusion 06-19-2001 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by manton


God I loved that. I played it more often than the main server.

I liked most of the older playerworlds better when they were private servers.

Tybalt 06-19-2001 01:29 AM

Well I've already paid fifty dollars canadian for Graal, I could buy counter-strike for less. I think subscribers should get a 'mini-gserver' when they pay for graal and they could host their own servers with almost as many options etc as with g2k1. And then in the Graal client you could choose private or public online mode, and for private you could put in the person's IP to go onto their server. I expect that this would boost sales too, becuase lots of people would want to make their own servers (not playerworlds)

CrazedMerlin 06-19-2001 01:33 AM

one person would buy it, and leak it out

Tybalt 06-19-2001 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrazedMerlin
one person would buy it, and leak it out
Then you need to use an account to make the server, your P2P account. However, you could add accounts for anyone for your server, but it would require a P2P account to host one

CrazedMerlin 06-19-2001 01:35 AM

thats a good idea
and there account would have to be valid so if there year ran out, and they wanted to continue to run the server they would have to re upgrade

Kaimetsu 06-19-2001 01:43 AM

I don't understand. How would private playerworlds be better than hosted playerworlds?

CrazedMerlin 06-19-2001 01:44 AM

Well alot of people like them better then they are private so its like a community of people they know

Huggles 06-19-2001 02:01 AM

People might use copy right stuff making graal responsible for it so it wouldnt be a good idea..... If a PW other then graal has copy right ... Stefan can still get in trouble......

cheaterzx22 06-19-2001 02:13 AM

Write a disclaimer saying that the contents of any player-controled server are not controlled by stefan and he is not responsible for any anything legal or not on those servers.

Cloud_X 06-19-2001 02:32 AM

Tybalt I was just thinking that same thing well I was reading page 2! Stefan that would make sales go very very high. People looooove doing stuff like that believe me a bunch more accounts would be upgraded and lots more people would come to graal. Plus it may help with the lag.

Admins 06-19-2001 04:35 AM

The sales would fall to 0.
Sorry but that will not be made.


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