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GoZelda 03-26-2003 09:33 PM

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Well, i made an outside level for fun. Rate it 1-10 and give comments to improve!

Waltz5 03-26-2003 10:01 PM

2/10

Add some more things, a house, water, more paths etc.
Add some detail, that's what the public wants to see.

GoZelda 03-26-2003 10:10 PM

It actually already contains quite some detail. About the house and water and stuff, why? Maybe it's the middle of nowhere! It might be a long road to some place!

zell12 03-26-2003 10:13 PM

I dont like it very much right now, try to finish it more before you post it on the forums. hehe

AlexH 03-26-2003 10:16 PM

If it's a long road to nowhere then it's still not to great.
Mainly because I don't like the grass detailing.
And also people like to see eye candy here.
Notan actual practical level.

gHoST01 03-27-2003 12:37 AM

my heart ::grabs chest and falls over::

just add detail man like rocks mix path types ect

tlf288 03-27-2003 03:03 AM

I'm a horrible level maker, but even I can use the path generator and add some random tiles in places :\ .

Kaiser2 03-27-2003 04:01 AM

Can you send me the path generator?

Dude6252000 03-27-2003 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by Kaiser2
Can you send me the path generator?
It's in the predifined NPC thingy, or whatever it is. I forget exactly how it works.

PrinceDark 03-27-2003 06:51 AM

- Most of it consists of default predefined objects.
- Try to make the path seem less generated.
- Add a bit more detail in ome areas.

Rate: 5/10

ETD 03-27-2003 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288
I'm a horrible level maker, but even I can use the path generator and add some random tiles in places :\ .
actually, I think he did NOT use the path generator... (if you look at it)

if he used the path generator, there would have been a LOT more rocks in the path... and the sides wouldn't look like that.

but the level needs more filling... there isn't much too it...

i'll give you a 2/10, just cuz i can tell you put time into that path
=0
and for someone new at level editing, it probably took like 30 mins

GoZelda 03-27-2003 05:52 PM

i used the path generator, just replaced the rocks by some sand-tiles, but they were all the same yes i need to fix that. A bit more detail, well, i can do that, more grass and such 'prolly. The level took me about 15-25 minutes, i just put a lot of time in the path.

zell12 03-27-2003 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by PrinceDark
- Most of it consists of default predefined objects.
- Try to make the path seem less generated.
- Add a bit more detail in ome areas.

Rate: 5/10

Where the hell do you see "most" of these predefined objects? Only ones are the trees.

draygin 03-27-2003 06:42 PM

Rating: Craptastic.

No details. Middle of no where thats fine. Remove all the single tile junk every where it looks really bad. Then look at previous examples of how people have done grass levels and try to develop a style similar to them. It will show you how to use the grass tiles and rock tiles. Also the grass to grass tiles so forth and so on. Needs work but given time it and more work it could be good.

GoZelda 03-27-2003 06:49 PM

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Well, i edited it a bit and added some more detail, whaddaya say?

draygin 03-27-2003 06:56 PM

The path is fine leave that alone. Concentrate on the grass. It's bland you have just single tiles every where. You dont have any clusters or anything. Look at ghost's level that I just responded in see how he did his grass? Do something like that only toned down alot more he has to much you have to little.

GoZelda 03-27-2003 07:23 PM

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I think i know what you mean, look near the trees in the level.

nikoma5000 03-27-2003 08:32 PM

hm... thats nice..

but very emty! 4/10

GoZelda 04-11-2003 06:02 PM

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Detail! Rate it once again 1-10 and the comments :)

draygin 04-11-2003 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by GoZelda
Detail! Rate it once again 1-10 and the comments :)
Ok you obviously arnt getting it.

you're level detail consists almost of nothing but 2 tiles. Stop using those 2 tiles all over the level its CRAP! Clusters. Put things in group. Use grass on grass. (look in the lava tile section) Read and comprehend what people are telling you. You've been told in previous posts about what to do to improve hte quality and you completely ignore it. So lets make this simple. When you get the urge to put one predefined object by itself dont. Put a bunch of them together in a patch.

GoZelda 04-11-2003 07:28 PM

I'll just wait for what the others say...

draygin 04-11-2003 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by GoZelda
I'll just wait for what the others say...
I give up, this is a lost cause.

Mykel 04-11-2003 10:33 PM

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take advice when u get it zelda. this is a VERY small example, but this is what he means by clusters.

draygin 04-11-2003 11:32 PM

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Here look and learn.

syltburk 04-12-2003 12:46 AM

Bunch the grass tiles together,

Dude6252000 04-12-2003 01:48 AM

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See picture. I was bored :O

Mykel 04-12-2003 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000
See picture. I was bored :O
text to small to read. x.x

magicbud3344 04-12-2003 02:42 AM

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Originally posted by Kaiser2
Can you send me the path generator?
lol :0

Dude6252000 04-12-2003 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
text to small to read. x.x
Did you point to the picture long enough to make the little button on the bottom right of the picture come up, and stretch it out to make it normal sized (In Internet Explorer)? Because I think that would be the problem. It's size 12 text :x

Aknts 04-12-2003 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by draygin
Here look and learn.

Ahh you like me you really like me. =)

Waltz5 04-12-2003 08:56 PM

A thing to remember, that would be hell walking through with all those blocking tiles.

GoZelda 04-12-2003 11:13 PM

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Okay, i think i've got it...

Spark910 04-12-2003 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by GoZelda
I'll just wait for what the others say...
Okay i'll be kind. Jeeze guys, hes new to level making give him space to breath. *pulls GoZelda out of pile of people*

Hello there....

Well first of all, I think you were aiming for a level that just like a forest or an outside level, not a town like most levels on here.

So with that in mind, you have put the path only at the moment. You need to do some other things around the side. I would suggest as your new to make yourself have as little as possible of grass. So try and do some water nice and wonky donky like the path (not straight) See Yellow Box

Okay next thing, some trees. Try some overlapping tiles, that helps make the trees look nice and together and fills the level neatly and nicely See Blue box

Okay with the level detail, it looks a bit spread out and repeative. First rule when level making with grass detail is Never right click detail, it looks boring as its too repeative! Look at mykels post for that example.

Next rule, is use as many tiles as you can, and look over the tile set for some other tiles you dont use much. Be careful with tiles like the mushrooms and little rocks, you cant walk over them, if you are going to use them, put them really close to trees so that people wont be blocked by them. see Red box

Dude6252000 04-13-2003 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by GoZelda
Okay, i think i've got it...
Now it's just SUPER CLUTTERED! 1.5/10.

SingleChance 04-13-2003 03:37 AM

dude...this should help you learn how to detail and stuff

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=21371

i think that thread should be stickied too it's a good tutorial.

Mykel 04-13-2003 05:16 AM

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Originally posted by SingleChance
dude...this should help you learn how to detail and stuff

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=21371

i think that thread should be stickied too it's a good tutorial.

wow, thats an awesome tutorial

draygin 04-14-2003 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Aknts



Ahh you like me you really like me. =)

\

Come back Spanky graal needs you. ;x All the leet people are leaving me here alone. x.x

GoZelda 04-23-2003 11:13 PM

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Mmm, yeah, is this it?

GoZelda 06-20-2003 11:12 PM

Since nobody gives any comment i guess it's 10/10 :D

draygin 06-20-2003 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by GoZelda
Since nobody gives any comment i guess it's 10/10 :D
Not worth rating until you improve the quality following some of the advice given previously.


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