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bloodykiller 04-19-2011 12:55 PM

guns admin
 
who is era's guns admin? and where is he? things need to be done

Demisis_P2P 04-19-2011 08:24 PM

I'll take the job.

LordSquirt 04-19-2011 09:00 PM

What is the point of the Guns Admin position, just make the admin/manager/GBA be in control for what stats the guns should have.

bloodykiller 04-19-2011 10:37 PM

i agree, thats what alf was doing before he left but our gba is too lazy to even host gang events and our manager is inexistent so nobody is administrating gun issues

Herb_P2P 04-20-2011 02:05 AM

I lol'd so hard when I heard Smu was guns admin hahaha

Supaman771 04-20-2011 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1644434)
What is the point of the Guns Admin position, just make the admin/manager/GBA be in control for what stats the guns should have.

This is very true.
Changing gun stats isn't very hard, all you need to do is mess around with a few variables.

Then again, we're talking to people who can't even login. Asking them to open a weapon script and change a few numbers is like asking a downs 3yrold to build a rocket ship with a coconut and 2 batteries.

Shadow5596321 04-20-2011 04:15 AM

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Nataxo 04-20-2011 07:46 AM

completly pointless job.

Just make a good analysis of the market/other guns so when you release a NEW one it wont affect the market inany bad way.

Arakonda 04-20-2011 06:17 PM

bloodykiller for Guns Admin, he's like so awesome and stuff.

TheLinkMan2002 04-20-2011 11:45 PM

i just want someone to address the ppsh issue, thats my only concern. and acr could be a bit slower i reckon. and oh yeah they need to lower the reload on mp5 again it kind of ruins the gun and its value.

DDynasty 04-21-2011 12:44 AM

I got it! Best plan ever! just deal with it.

Supaman771 04-21-2011 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDynasty (Post 1644646)
I got it! Best plan ever! just deal with it.

btrplanrly

Hit F8, double-click Zodiac.
Done.

emoman 04-21-2011 05:32 AM

Smu needs to be manager again, he was a fantastic manager for his time


*trollface*

DDynasty 04-21-2011 05:55 AM

Dude rogue woah no way usosmart!

Mark Sir Link 04-21-2011 06:10 AM

is this really a position on Era?

Demisis_P2P 04-21-2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1644694)
is this really a position on Era?

Not really. It was invented so that I could have RC back when Houdini was trying to limit the number of people with RC for some reason, and it's just stuck around since then for no particular reason.

Rave_J 04-22-2011 03:14 PM

Demisis for manager lol :)

Zeross 04-22-2011 08:31 PM

It seems like a sensible position to me...
I mean, the entire server revolves around guns and gangs.
So that was probably why HoudiniMan didn't shoot it down, it makes sense. :D

Sinkler 04-23-2011 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeross (Post 1644969)
It seems like a sensible position to me...
I mean, the entire server revolves around guns and gangs.
So that was probably why HoudiniMan didn't shoot it down, it makes sense. :D

That may be true, however why not make Guns Admin a job under Gang and Business Admin rather than create another position that does absolutely nothing unless annoyed to do something.

Demisis_P2P 04-23-2011 12:58 AM

Yeah but then you'd have to actually find a decent Gang and Business Admin.

Supaman771 04-23-2011 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1644993)
Yeah but then you'd have to actually find a decent Gang and Business Admin.

*looks hard*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeross (Post 1644969)
*Finds*


Demisis_P2P 04-23-2011 01:14 AM

Ask Geo what happens when you hire Wil.

alskdjfhg 04-23-2011 03:13 AM

Fine, I'll do it. Geeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz

James 04-23-2011 03:22 AM

me4gunsadminplz

Nataxo 04-24-2011 05:34 PM

Actually Wil would be an amazing Business/Guns admins if eh didn't actually play the game.

Zeross 04-24-2011 08:26 PM

Admin's shouldn't play the GAME!!!! Durrr!

@Demisis
lul ikr, *stepped on the toes of too many giants* =[

Tracker180 04-25-2011 06:06 AM

lol, is there a manager on any server that is active?

cheesemanfred 04-27-2011 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeross (Post 1645274)
Admin's shouldn't play the GAME!!!! Durrr!

If admins don't play the game they can't see what is really wrong, though. I don't like relying on other people's eyes and ears.

But, I should be Guns Admin. I'm online and I hate you all, so I'll nerf all of TK's guns and buff the uzi to 40 dmg.

bloodykiller 04-28-2011 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesemanfred (Post 1645952)
If admins don't play the game they can't see what is really wrong, though. I don't like relying on other people's eyes and ears.

But, I should be Guns Admin. I'm online and I hate you all, so I'll nerf all of TK's guns and buff the uzi to 40 dmg.

ud have to go through a lot of gun stats..

Eclipse 04-29-2011 01:57 AM

uzi for manager

Zeross 04-29-2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesemanfred (Post 1645952)
If admins don't play the game they can't see what is really wrong, though. .

So they see what is really wrong by never logging on? -_- The logic is flawless, can't argue with that. N1

TheLinkMan2002 05-02-2011 10:25 AM

if i was guns admin all guns would shoot in random directions at all times including back at you. thats fun right?

xTcDiabloxTc 05-02-2011 10:32 PM

Wil playing the game has nothing to do with why he hasn't been hired.

He's never been 100% trustworthy (from what I've witnessed with PWA/local staff discussion), and tends to be pushy and aggressive (traits people don't want to work with). Just being honest.


That said, he actually would make a good Gang/Business/Gun Admin if it came down to just making decisions/implementing ideas and not the politics of it all.

Zeross 05-04-2011 01:19 AM

Maybe Pushy and Aggressive is exactly whats needed. =oooooooooooooooo

Sinkler 05-04-2011 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xTcDiabloxTc (Post 1647196)
That said, he actually would make a good Gang/Business/Gun Admin if it came down to just making decisions/implementing ideas and not the politics of it all.

You're not going to avoid politics with any position, Icarus. You cannot please everyone. However, the better question would be if he can serve in a fair manner.

Decisions should be made on the best interests of the server, which of course is the "ideal" situation, however, from what I have seen, the positions of GBA or Guns Administrator have always failed. What makes you think anyone else can fix it?

As stated earlier, instead of making it separate positions, making it unified into one person, I believe, would be the most efficient use of such a position. However, I do not think in reality, such a position will work as well as in the "ideal" world.

Zeross 05-04-2011 05:59 AM

I think it will work better. This world is far smaller and less complex.
Just needs to be worked right, :D. The problem with people in these positions is that they played too much politics. It allowed them to keep their job but limited their performance which defeats the purpose. =oooo

CatMater 05-16-2011 02:51 AM

Basically what should occur is fixing the guns to where the pricing of guns is correct to the stats of the guns. That way the chain of guns from lower to higher isn't based on the stats but the price of the gun. So if the price is lower for the gun, then its not as good. Yes there can be different damages on guns but they can be slower or not as fast to reload. Which is sparing makes a difference. That way its an easier to tell which guns are better and wont have a problem in the future. Base the guns off their ammo and start from there. Then you must start with the stats and what the guns speed, accuracy, etc. is going to end up being. It isn't about which guns better anymore. Its about the pricing of the guns to know you have a better gun. That way you wont have to worry about who's the best player. But who has the best guns.
Example : Mp40>M4
M4 is worth more but Mp40 is better.
I could easily fix all the guns on era to stand correctly to the price they are and make them better stated to where they are easier or harder to PK with. It depends on the pricing and how the gun is IRL. This is our Era of time yet it is our race. The one suited better with the equipment wins the race.

Rave_J 05-16-2011 03:43 AM

i think there should be one person for guns admin the one person for business

i never seen will be in a business like idk thought i been gone for 2 years
like Amber would make a good business Admin cuz she knows what it takes to make a business successful

hunterhunk 05-16-2011 06:50 PM

Instead of talking about balancing guns according to their price... We should be talking about REBALANCING every single gun on the server.... Yes, pretty much every single gun needs to be re-done on some sort of scale.

Having all of these .05 freeze guns really takes away from the skill aspect of the game.

Every gun should be at least .1 freeze, and all 25 damage guns should be at least .15, you should also have it so all 2 bullet shot guns either have a small clip and a high reload time, or a high freeze or really low rate of fire. Regardless guns right now are seriously ridiculous, and all guns need to be re-balanced and re-scaled. Then you can talk about making sure the stats fit their price range.... Well I guess those kind of go hand in hand, but regardless they need to be fixed.

Emera 05-16-2011 07:00 PM

What exactly do they do? I heard they decide the stats for the guns and what not. But, really, if this is true you could have noobs do this job lol.


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