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_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 04-14-2002 04:52 AM

I heard that you can only upgrade one account per person because this is a special limited time offer

Milkdude99 04-14-2002 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
I heard that you can only upgrade one account per person because this is a special limited time offer
I wonder if that includes accounts already upgraded .... I need to upgrade my daughters account

Bird2prey 04-14-2002 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
I wonder if that includes accounts already upgraded .... I need to upgrade my daughters account
Accounts that have been upgraded to p2p in the past but expired are still covered for access to non-p2p servers.

Milkdude99 04-14-2002 11:16 AM

Her account was never upgraded so I did it tonight but Moon Goddess and I still have over 6 months left on ours...

Correction 04-14-2002 11:28 AM

i have a better idea

degrade graal back to the days before there was even a server list, and make it awl fwee agin!

zell12 04-14-2002 11:36 AM

then we won't have a graal to play on, with no money, theres no graal

slick_soul 04-14-2002 12:01 PM

seems like there is a reason now to ask people for there expired p2p accounts i have two ones not expired , I remember graal when it first came out , thats what i called graal but now this 2k2 stuff and this all p2p stuff its too much

Leyth

zell12 04-14-2002 11:10 PM

I got an account named fuzie, but I forget the pass... I got to ask Brian =/

Admins 04-14-2002 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slick_soul
I remember graal when it first came out , thats what i called graal but now this 2k2 stuff and this all p2p stuff its too much

Leyth

Graal has always changed, otherwise there would only be the newbie head, bow, bomb

Correction 04-15-2002 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan


Graal has always changed, otherwise there would only be the newbie head, bow, bomb

haha

Milkdude99 04-15-2002 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan


Graal has always changed, otherwise there would only be the newbie head, bow, bomb

hahah Good point! But it is the nature of things , change will always come and it is the nature order of things.There are those who accept the change and move on and those who don't and are left behind...My question to all is Which are YOU?



note:
in life we change what we can and accept what we cannot ,only a fool would try to do anything else..
The Graal Change is not something we can change so where will you fall?

Slaktmaster 04-15-2002 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan


Graal has always changed, otherwise there would only be the newbie head, bow, bomb

THE BEST COMEBACK :)

Googi 04-15-2002 10:32 AM

G2K1 should be renamed Paradise or Graal Paradise

Glory 04-15-2002 01:54 PM

Is it true Stefan got pissed at the post and got on N-Pulse to shut them down? :confused:

Biggi 04-15-2002 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vsignasv

No glory, you have to stop posting on account of I hate you.

umm... I think glory was talking to me :rolleyes:
but anyways I think glory is right, I should post more :P

ZeroFXSM 04-15-2002 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias
To the people complaining:

I would love to see how you would go about hosting a mmorpg with over a dozen servers on it, and 1000's of users online a day eating up so much bandwidth that it would make your head spin. You couldn't run that from your home computer. :rolleyes:

It takes serious server power to run Graal, and I highly doubt unixmad and stefan are rolling in money and laughing at everyone paying.

All of the stupid illegal Graal server projects crack me up. Educational purposes? You're backing all of your faith into that? Maybe you need to go GET an education. That's like saying "I'm going to completely take apart Windows, modify it, and give it away for free, oh and I can do this because it's for educational purposes" :rolleyes:

You have to get the owner's permission before you can use their code for ANYTHING. You have not done this, you have stolen code, and then claimed you're only using it for educational purposes along with your "donations" on the side.

Back on the subject of paying.. Fifteen dollars is NOTHING. If you can't afford fifteen dollars, why do you even have internet access?

You play Graal on a daily basis, you get enjoyment from the game (obviously), yet you're going to riot when you have to pay a measily 15 dollars for LIFE.

People dish out over 25 dollars a MONTH in order to play ONE online game, where you're 1 out of 1032412412 other people playing, and you have no personal identity at all, your work (levels, scripts, graphics) would never get online, you couldn't run your own playerworld, you couldn't talk with the creators and owners of the game personally. You would be another face in the commercial gaming crowd. That is what holds Graal apart from so many other games. That is why it's worth 15 dollars.

If you don't think it's worth 15 dollars because you don't like how the game is managed, then why are you complaining anyway? LEAVE. We don't need people that hate Graal, playing Graal. That is why I love the fact that all people will have to pay now.

Amen... Amen... Amen

Milkdude99 04-16-2002 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Glory
Is it true Stefan got pissed at the post and got on N-Pulse to shut them down? :confused:
Yes he was pissed about what I put up on the Boards that came from Yufrontme even though it was not my Opinion or even agreed with it and I saw his point about it, and it won't happen again , he read serveral of my other post and saw that I was a strong supporter of Graal and by no means Anti-Graal and by what I said on the RC last night.It is what I get for telling PPL with non P2P accounts I would post their opinions when the one in question was indeed a extreme view, but the only reason I did is because I am a man of my word and will do what I will say I will , but then again I have to look out for Npulse and Graal so I will not make that mistake again, for one thing I APPROVE of the business move being made by Stefan and Unixmad and I think is a good move for Graal. And should not have posted something that was that extreme .... ehh we all make mistakes and that was one of mine, I blame no one but myself for doing it and I did applogize to Stefan for it....And please do not ask the content of it if you did not see it , it will remain off these boards.....And off the Npulse Boards .....

Evil-Magus 04-16-2002 09:21 AM

Hmm...
 
No, I dont have time to read all of the posts, so I shall just say this, although it may have already been stated by someone else...
(1)For the phone idea there might be a problem with languages(I can't speak french fluently yet)
(2)Names! :D
2001- Graal:Money Making Bordeom!
2002- Graal:A Ton of Kingdoms
Everything else is great though!

Shorty2Dope 04-16-2002 09:46 AM

Re: Hmm...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Evil-Magus
No, I dont have time to read all of the posts, so I shall just say this, although it may have already been stated by someone else...
(1)For the phone idea there might be a problem with languages(I can't speak french fluently yet)
(2)Names! :D
2001- Graal:Money Making Bordeom!
2002- Graal:A Ton of Kingdoms
Everything else is great though!

The way i understood they are having a certain company take care of the phone stuff. So they may have other language support. orrr all you have to do is select what language you are in the beginning, and do everything from pressing buttons. The bill is charged to your phone bill so its not like you have to talk to someone.

Romeo2k 04-16-2002 10:15 AM

how do they charge it to your phone bill though... dont they need alot of info or do they just add it like long distance fee's somehow...

this may sound weird but it sounds funky to me for some reason

Loriel 04-16-2002 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Glory
Is it true Stefan got pissed at the post and got on N-Pulse to shut them down? :confused:
I seriously doubt it since a lot of servers were down to upgrade the software on them, N-Pulse was most likely just one of them.

Slaktmaster 04-16-2002 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel

I seriously doubt it since a lot of servers were down to upgrade the software on them, N-Pulse was most likely just one of them.

It is true, just as Moon God posted.

Milkdude99 04-17-2002 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Romeo2k
how do they charge it to your phone bill though... dont they need alot of info or do they just add it like long distance fee's somehow...

this may sound weird but it sounds funky to me for some reason

Its not and common in the USA , what happens is the company charges your Long distance carrier for the Amount IE $15 or what ever you are upgrading to , on your phone bill it will appear with the charge and who billed it , Graal or the Company they will be using...It is just an option used for many years in the USA for people who do not have credit cards...

mikepg 04-17-2002 06:59 AM

umm
 
I didnt read all 23 pages of this, sorry :(....

So, this may have been answered:

G2k1 players that have bought an account already, will not have to pay the 15 dollar lifetime registration fee for classic, correct?



Ideas for G2k1 Names

Mini Game Gallery
The Arcade


Personally...i see no need for G2k2 server name changes.

But that doesnt say much :(.

Romeo2k 04-17-2002 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
Its not and common in the USA , what happens is the company charges your Long distance carrier for the Amount IE $15 or what ever you are upgrading to , on your phone bill it will appear with the charge and who billed it , Graal or the Company they will be using...It is just an option used for many years in the USA for people who do not have credit cards...
Sweet Thanks, im in the USA but ive either not heard of that or payed attention to it ;-)
so how is it triggered? if you try to log on will a prompt come up and ask or something?

acidfear 04-17-2002 06:39 PM

instead of may 1, can you guys make it another day? i have my drivers test on may 1st :(

Spanko 04-17-2002 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by acidfear
instead of may 1, can you guys make it another day? i have my drivers test on may 1st :(
It's probably going to last more then one day, you know.

G_yoshi 04-17-2002 08:13 PM

Re: Re: In my (somewhat questionable) opinion...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


That's like saying NO to weedkiller because it will, in fact, kill weeds.

I think we all know that Graal could use a little bit of a "weedkiller" too.

G_yoshi 04-17-2002 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Konidias

To the people complaining:

I would love to see how you would go about hosting a mmorpg with over a dozen servers on it, and 1000's of users online a day eating up so much bandwidth that it would make your head spin. You couldn't run that from your home computer.

It takes serious server power to run Graal, and I highly doubt unixmad and stefan are rolling in money and laughing at everyone paying.

All of the stupid illegal Graal server projects crack me up. Educational purposes? You're backing all of your faith into that? Maybe you need to go GET an education. That's like saying "I'm going to completely take apart Windows, modify it, and give it away for free, oh and I can do this because it's for educational purposes"

You have to get the owner's permission before you can use their code for ANYTHING. You have not done this, you have stolen code, and then claimed you're only using it for educational purposes along with your "donations" on the side.

Back on the subject of paying.. Fifteen dollars is NOTHING. If you can't afford fifteen dollars, why do you even have internet access?

You play Graal on a daily basis, you get enjoyment from the game (obviously), yet you're going to riot when you have to pay a measily 15 dollars for LIFE.

People dish out over 25 dollars a MONTH in order to play ONE online game, where you're 1 out of 1032412412 other people playing, and you have no personal identity at all, your work (levels, scripts, graphics) would never get online, you couldn't run your own playerworld, you couldn't talk with the creators and owners of the game personally. You would be another face in the commercial gaming crowd. That is what holds Graal apart from so many other games. That is why it's worth 15 dollars.

If you don't think it's worth 15 dollars because you don't like how the game is managed, then why are you complaining anyway? LEAVE. We don't need people that hate Graal, playing Graal. That is why I love the fact that all people will have to pay now.

heh, try going on #graal and telling that to Wrz and Viper. Which reminds me, I've got some funny logs of Kamuii (and myself) arguing with both of them...in the end, they basically walk away with their tail between their legs and put both of us on ignore. :D

Falcor 04-17-2002 08:37 PM

I'll pay for graal indefinitly. Its so cheep and fun I don't know how they can keep it up at this rate. And then i see people complaining about 40 a year (3.30 a month like less than my lunch money) or 15 for LIFE. FOR LIFE? HAHAHAHA! This will be a great year. I can tell.

G_yoshi 04-17-2002 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falcor
I'll pay for graal indefinitly. Its so cheep and fun I don't know how they can keep it up at this rate. And then i see people complaining about 40 a year (3.30 a month like less than my lunch money) or 15 for LIFE. FOR LIFE? HAHAHAHA! This will be a great year. I can tell.
These are the people that delude themselves into thinking that everything on the internet is free. They have no real knowledge of how a business works, but they think they do ;)

Kaimetsu 04-17-2002 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by G_yoshi


heh, try going on #graal and telling that to Wrz and Viper. Which reminds me, I've got some funny logs of Kamuii (and myself) arguing with both of them...in the end, they basically walk away with their tail between their legs and put both of us on ignore. :D

Wrz and Viper are hardly even fun to beat. It's all too easy.

G_yoshi 04-17-2002 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Wrz and Viper are hardly even fun to beat. It's all too easy.

Unfortunately, yes. But it's still fun to do it anyway :)

Shorty2Dope 04-17-2002 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by G_yoshi


These are the people that delude themselves into thinking that everything on the internet is free. They have no real knowledge of how a business works, but they think they do ;)

Very true.

Falcor 04-17-2002 09:03 PM

Its just really funny. Ill do the math for you... Ok graal. It costs 39 a year right? that is $3.25 a month. If you wanna make it every school day. it would be about 21 cents a day for every day you go to school..

Now here is your lunch (its a bout $1.50 a day for the sake of argument) Look at the difference. Even if you get reduced lunch (40 cents) So every year for regular lunch you pay about $270
and for reduced you pay 72 dollars.

Now look at them numbers. Number never lie

Per day
Graal: $0.21
Reduced Lunch: $0.40
Regular Lunch: $1.50

========
Per year
Graal: $39
Reduced lunch: $72
Regular Lunch: $270


And that is why it is SO SO SO rediculous to complain about the price.

draygin 04-17-2002 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falcor

Now look at them numbers. Number never lie

Per day
Graal: $0.21
Reduced Lunch: $0.40
Regular Lunch: $1.50

========
Per year
Graal: $39
Reduced lunch: $72
Regular Lunch: $270


And that is why it is SO SO SO rediculous to complain about the price.

You left out some figures fal.

Regular lunch: $270

Reduced lunch: $72

Graal: $39

Pictures of you pking helpless newbies..... Priceless.


well I thought it was funny any ways. ;) If I was home I'd add a screenshot just for fun.

acidfear 04-17-2002 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spanko
It's probably going to last more then one day, you know.
i heard the last testing lasted for 2 days -_-. and it isnt even on saturday :(

scottman5587 04-17-2002 10:44 PM

I think p2p users can use it while its in beta testing

DarkDragon452 04-17-2002 10:53 PM

And WHY does this topic have 300+ replies?

I think it should be locked. There is no conversation right now except about how freeloaders are so dumb and people that pay are so smart. I love the new changes and all but this topic has grown out of proportion o.0

04-18-2002 02:00 AM

Great Idea Unixmad
 
Wonderfull idea Unixmad! I really hope (and believe) that this is the just the thing Graal needed. I really enjoy the part about previous and current P2P subcribers will not have to pay the 15 dollars, although I think I might anyway, just to support graal.


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