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Alure1316 06-23-2007 12:23 AM

@stefan: i disabled bitmap fonts (faster and smoother) and unchecked dpi and then i tried it with disabling visual themes and it doesn't work, crashes when you try to open a PM.

@angel light: oops i forgot to put that i checked visual themes as well. (i'll edit my post)

D4rKv310c1ty 06-23-2007 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alure1316 (Post 1321162)
ok i fixed it :D

graal doesn't crash randomly nor does it crash when i open PMs.

go to compatibility and run in Windows XP (SP2) mode and check the box for "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" :edit: AND "Disable Visual Theme"

btw my pc specs:

AMD Athlon 64 Processor XP 3500+
2047 MB RAM
32-bit OS (VISTA)
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS (with latest nvidia drivers)

graal finally works! yay!


A 64 XP? You mean 64? The XP series stopped at 3200.

Not that it's relevant :P

Moondeath_2 06-23-2007 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta2004 (Post 1321137)
My graphics driver is updated. Here's some information on my Laptop:

-AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-32 , 1.80GHz

-ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M Series

-1470 RAM

-Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)



Here's my System Rating:


Processor : 3.7

RAM : 2.9

Graphics : 2.8

Game Graphics : 2.7

Primary Hard Disk : 4.1

Overall : 2.7

I feel bad for you.. mine out ranks that over a mile.. then again you said that's form your lappy. ^^

Angel_Light 06-23-2007 04:32 AM

Finally some progress with Vista. Question for Stefan. Why exactly can't you get Graal running smooth with Vista? No need to use baby Talk I'll understand what you say. Or is it you fixed it justhavent released the version do to other bugs/errors.

Moondeath_2 06-23-2007 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1321248)
Finally some progress with Vista. Question for Stefan. Why exactly can't you get Graal running smooth with Vista? No need to use baby Talk I'll understand what you say. Or is it you fixed it justhavent released the version do to other bugs/errors.

What do you mean by "smooth", I don't follow you. :)

Angel_Light 06-23-2007 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Moondeath_2 (Post 1321250)
What do you mean by "smooth", I don't follow you. :)

Haha, no graphical errors, no random crashes (Though I think alure fixed that) No having to use the compatibility mode, so on and so forth

Moondeath_2 06-23-2007 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1321252)
Haha, no graphical errors, no random crashes (Though I think alure fixed that) No having to use the compatibility mode, so on and so forth

Ah..can't help you there my FAQ brain powers end there I've been searching and searching other places on ways to stop this but I haven't found any answers lets just hope stefan does it eventually he's smart.. he'll get it .. hopefully.. keheh :p

Angel_Light 06-23-2007 04:44 AM

Haha, yup, be kinda sad if the Lead Coder of Graal can't make it Vista compatible. I still don't think it be that hard though. Although what do I know. XD

Moondeath_2 06-23-2007 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1321252)
Haha, no graphical errors, no random crashes (Though I think alure fixed that) No having to use the compatibility mode, so on and so forth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1321256)
Haha, yup, be kinda sad if the Lead Coder of Graal can't make it Vista compatible. I still don't think it be that hard though. Although what do I know. XD

Well I cannot *help* you and cannot him aswell.. I am still a "noobie" at coding other languages which i'm learning right now: C++, Java(Don't ask I felt like doing some more of this), delphi, and a couple other things.. I have alot of free time on my hands and yeah it would be sad if he couldn't fix it but right now I think him fixing graal's little "exploits" like the wall hacking and such should be top prioity. Aswell as the playerworlds being "hacked/hijacked" kehe. ^_~

Angel_Light 06-23-2007 04:58 AM

Yeah, I know he'll fix it one day. I teaching myself Ruby, pointless language to know but interesting none the less. :P There are always going to be manipulators* in Graal. Not much we can truly do but build better defenses.

*Notice I call them Manipulators not hackers. Hackers code for the betterment of the community, Manipulators code for the betterment of themselves.

Moondeath_2 06-23-2007 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1321261)
Yeah, I know he'll fix it one day. I teaching myself Ruby, pointless language to know but interesting none the less. :P There are always going to be manipulators* in Graal. Not much we can truly do but build better defenses.

*Notice I call them Manipulators not hackers. Hackers code for the betterment of the community, Manipulators code for the betterment of themselves.

Ruby is actually pretty fun. :asleep:

Angel_Light 06-23-2007 05:11 AM

Syntax is quite hard in my opinion, it's being quite a hassel XD. Other than that it is fun.

Moondeath_2 06-23-2007 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1321264)
Syntax is quite hard in my opinion, it's being quite a hassel XD. Other than that it is fun.

heh I suppose..

Alure1316 06-23-2007 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D4rKv310c1ty (Post 1321229)
A 64 XP? You mean 64? The XP series stopped at 3200.

Not that it's relevant :P

OOOOPS

my old processor was XP LOl

this is a new one and i'm used to saying 3200 XP

Delta2004 06-26-2007 08:48 PM

Well after alot of Vista updates, I've noticed that Graal doesn't crash on me anymore. The only issue now is those animated flowers. :o

Update


Graal did just crash on me. But it's being more stable because I haven't had it crash in weeks for me. I think it was also because I had Graal minimized?

jetboom 06-28-2007 01:49 AM

Graal is unstable on my vista by unstable I mean unplayable. Tried opengl, all compatibility settings etc. No difference :( I have the latest updates also.

Angel_Light 06-28-2007 03:16 AM

jetboom have you tried the methods in previous posts using the XP compatibility mode?

zephirot 06-28-2007 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetboom (Post 1323257)
Graal is unstable on my vista by unstable I mean unplayable. Tried opengl, all compatibility settings etc. No difference :( I have the latest updates also.

Totally off topic, but are you JetBoom from Gmod?

WHIPENIE4 06-28-2007 09:10 AM

right now the main problem i'm having besides the Images going crazy, i dont even have a head on Zodiac i have a blurr.
I can't d/l the Level Editors or Dev Tools, with a server, its kinda difficult to work without those :(

I don't know if you've covered this yet because I cant spend 2 hours reading all 8 pages of this sorrrry

Angel_Light 06-28-2007 07:14 PM

np, :P to download stuff, move the entire graal folder to C: \

jetboom 06-28-2007 10:47 PM

Can you post all the 'hacks / fixs' on Vista cause Its hard finding them all.

Admins 06-28-2007 11:06 PM

Good news: we made Graal working on Vista 64 bit (will also work on XP 64 bit). So with the next version things will run more smooth :D

Chompy 06-28-2007 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1323618)
Good news: we made Graal working on Vista 64 bit (will also work on XP 64 bit). So with the next version things will run more smooth :D

:D I think someone will see this and be happy :O

jetboom 06-28-2007 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1323625)
:D I think someone will see this and be happy :O

Yes everyone who has vista will be happy.

Delta2004 06-29-2007 02:05 AM

What about Vista - 32 bit?

ArushenP2P 06-29-2007 02:56 AM

Yeah I have a 32-Bit :(. Anyways what's the different?

WHIPENIE4 06-29-2007 03:37 AM

i also have a 32 Bit.....

jetboom 06-29-2007 06:45 AM

32bit should work fine but I'm guessing if 64bit is fixed, It means Vista is probably fixed in general.

Delta2004 06-29-2007 07:45 AM

Awesome then :) Thanks

Vulcan 06-29-2007 08:37 AM

What sort of problems are you guys having on 32-bit versions of Vista?

ArushenP2P 06-29-2007 10:05 AM

Graphical problems = Mostly light graphics and the other graphics are random Discontinuation = Keeps disconnecting randomly
Can't open browser in GraalOnline without having it crash.
PM not working correctly.
OH and GraalEditor has this black line and you get error when you close it that's it.
Graal errors when you close it.
Maybe there is more but I don't know.

WHIPENIE4 06-29-2007 02:56 PM

pretty much all the stuff they said in the last 8 pages lol. thats about as easy to put it

ArushenP2P 06-29-2007 03:00 PM

Come on developers, find it in your heart to save that bear!

WHIPENIE4 06-29-2007 03:06 PM

but I have a question. Yes, I always do, I art thou X-Mann..... whatever.

Is there any other way to download the Level Editor and Developer Tool that anyone knows of because graal isnt puttin them on the computer lol....
make it bold so people notice it

Angel_Light 06-29-2007 09:30 PM

to download the packages take your entire Graal folder and put it into the C: \ drive or into a folder that the name has no spaces., I'm guessing the folder path name has "Program Files" in it which there is a space. Also, I have found most fixes for the 32-bit Vista (Other than light gfx screwing up" YOu just need to go to the properties of the files and run it in compatibility mode to fix all of it.

Delta2004 06-29-2007 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1323949)
to download the packages take your entire Graal folder and put it into the C: \ drive or into a folder that the name has no spaces., I'm guessing the folder path name has "Program Files" in it which there is a space. Also, I have found most fixes for the 32-bit Vista (Other than light gfx screwing up" YOu just need to go to the properties of the files and run it in compatibility mode to fix all of it.

I think everyone is using compatibility mode already. I know for me, I am, and it doesn't fix everything for me. :(

jetboom 06-29-2007 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArushenP2P (Post 1323806)
Come on developers, find it in your heart to save that bear!

That stuffed animal with a rubber knife to its throat was deemed to intense for graalonline even though if you join a server you will get cussed out beyond belief.

The funny thing is the same post was posted on NVidia's forums and they found it funny I guess this just shows better quality developers have better sense of humors.

This forum is so annoying, No external links, you post a joke and an admin gos crazy.

ArushenP2P 06-29-2007 10:48 PM

Rofl

Angel_Light 06-29-2007 11:43 PM

to jetBoom: Heh so true.

Delta: the compatibility mode with the options have fixed all the probs for me except the light gfx thing, and guis are still a tad screwy

Delta2004 06-30-2007 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1323997)
Delta: the compatibility mode with the options have fixed all the probs for me except the light gfx thing, and guis are still a tad screwy


:cry: The only issues I really have though are random client crashes and the only graphics issues are the animated flower things. But also I've spoken to some other Vista Premium users and they don't have a single issue with Graal. I guess it's different for everyone :confused:


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