Well I tried on my other computer to run graal, but that computer broke down on me :( I can't seem to run a second windows because vista can't be removed and many other stuff. Although it seems to play a little well fullscreened, it still randomly crashes. When I run it fullscreen, it seems to let me play longer...

I'm running Ultimate x64 now (RTM, duh), would love to test things.

You do not know what you are talking about; that is impossible right now, Vista uses a special MBR sequence that grub does not support yet, Grub is what messed it up in the first place.

I had to use mbrfix, a 3rd party program that supported vista (not the fixmbr recovery command) to fix it

Well... is graal going to be released on Vista? I have premium and it doesn't work.. I also cant buy a hard drive and get Linux... I already paid for my graal account, why should I have to spend more money to play it? Its not like vista is an unknown operating system..

"In case you're keeping track, nearly 40 million Microsoft Vista licenses have been sold in its first 100 days. Not bad, in fact, pretty damn impressive leaving little doubt that this is Microsoft's most successful OS (measure by rate of sale) ever with record profits sure to follow."

Wait, I totally can't link to this article... whoops :o

It's from engadget, a respectable tech-blog. Pretty easy to find on Google... *cough*

Seriously, let's make a Vista forum and start cranking out versions!

I support this statement.

I'm Mido Valoryn, and I approve of this message.

*Graal chest sound here*

...how many weren't for businesses?

who cares..?

Are you going to not include it because a corporation bought it? They are still paying, which means its money for Microsoft.

Please don't make such stupid comments.

So my linux install (ubuntu fiesty) isnt too great. It works for about 40 minutes, then apparently linux has some memory leaks and things just start breaking, Graal and audacious have to fight for the soundcard which makes graal lag and have no audio, or it makes audacious crash, after a while GAIM crashes, and graal is unphazed but it become a really lame work condition.

For christ sake make graal work on vista!

It just seems to be an image and PM problem for me. I'm tempted to record it and add it here.

Well I would just like them to release graal for windows vista so I can you know... actually play...
And for those of you who do not know vvhat the game is like, heres some pics thrown together..

http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledez9.jpg

Ok so yesterday it was somewhat working... I had renamed it to Graal4needsalongname.exe and played and the PM thing was fixed but every time I closed the game I got an endless loop of runtime errors. So today I go to play and stuff and the PM problem is back saying Access denied or whatever the error is, it is in screenshots on previous pages so I tried moving it around I had it in C:/Program Files/Graal yesterday then today i tried C:/Users/Hobo and C:/Graal but neither helped. So now I can't get PMs and the game crashes every couple minutes.

Here is my latest log file

NPC Code:

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Scanning folder structure of C:/Graal/...

Done.

Created DirectDraw object

Initialized Direct3D7

Initialized DirectDraw

Graphic Capabilities: 

  Drawing of alpha blended textures: true

  Textures with non-power-of-2 size: true

  3D Textures with non-power-of-2 size: true

  2D during 3D scene: true

  Use 32 bit alpha: true

Initialized Direct3D7

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Graal has been activated!

Loading tile definitions for server Login

Connecting to the game server...

Done.

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Loading tile definitions for server Era

Connecting to the game server...

Done.

Loaded minimap from era_present.gmap

PM: received from (npcserver):Dr. NPC (Server)

File download: era_k180-walk.gani (size: 11581) done

File download: head1247.png (size: 2639) done

File download: era_head-ven1.png (size: 2986) done

File download: era_head-trupe3.png (size: 2667) done

FMod Sounds: using default sound driver

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

File download: era_sewersb.gmap (size: 453) done

File download: head.png (size: 2443) done

File download: andrew-head.gif (size: 3797) done

File download: psychonewbiehead.gif (size: 5190) done

Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

File download: era_head-nyte2.gif (size: 4566) done

File download: sg552_idle.gani (size: 10341) done

File download: Era_PersonalK_GasMaskHead.png (size: 2187) done

File download: era_k180-fire.gani (size: 11611) done

File download: head644.png (size: 4129) done

File download: head195.png (size: 2682) done

File download: head71.png (size: 2443) done

File download: head863.gif (size: 3559) done

File download: timrocksdarkhead.gif (size: 1234) done

File download: buster-head.gif (size: 2898) done

File download: era_poodie-head.gif (size: 3344) done

File download: diadeloz-headr.gif (size: 3154) done

File download: head327.png (size: 3578) done

File download: Aa-head1.png (size: 2097) done

File download: era_m16-walk.gani (size: 12944) done

File download: zim5354_head1.png (size: 4592) done

File download: head1272.png (size: 3708) done

File download: era_dellhead2.gif (size: 2892) done

File download: emhead4.gif (size: 4080) done

File download: era_taurus-swalk.gani (size: 12236) done

File download: head818.png (size: 3262) done

File download: Personal.Conaire.head5.png (size: 2948) done

File download: mm-personalhead1.gif (size: 4047) done

File download: era-mafia_tommy-reload.gani (size: 9851) done

File download: era_personal_archican-head1.png (size: 2326) done

File download: GanNing-Icecube-head.gif (size: 3498) done

File download: crass_hood-head-byrue2.gif (size: 5220) done

File download: head235.png (size: 1422) done

File download: ace_personal-head1.gif (size: 2674) done

File download: era_personal_thecain-head2fix.gif (size: 4259) done

File download: head815.png (size: 1993) done

File download: froggyhead2.png (size: 2529) done

File download: -.gif not found

File download: era_clayhead2.png (size: 3051) done

File download: era_taylor.png (size: 5297) done

File download: era_pizzaeat.gani (size: 9215) done

File download: era_coastfinal2.wav not found

File download: *.gif not found

File download: tiledefsera.txt not found

File download: plisticonhiding.png (size: 213) done

File download: superflamehead.png (size: 2800) done

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I still have problems with the game on Vista... Pretty similar to what everyone else is saying/showing.

Is their a way to fix the online download problem? I only have like 44 heads in my heads folder and I like to look through there to look at different heads and stuff. Why won't Vista hold them down?

The files are probably being redirected to the virtual store. Go to C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\, and go to your Graal folder from there. This happens because program data is not supposed to be stored in Program Files.

Edit: if you don't want it to happen, you can either install Graal to somewhere other than program files, or run the program as an admin.

Simple. Run graal as the Administrator.

Okie dokie so I renamed the exe to Graallongname.exe, set it as administator and turned off all lighting effects. So far I have been playing about 10 minutes which is the longest I have gone so far now without it crashing :p

Edit: Err wtf I closed Graal and reopened it and the PM problem is back... so I am going to try renaming it again... thats gonna suck if I have to rename it each time.

Yeah renaming worked... but yeah wtf that sucks I will have to rename it each time.

I noticed that this shows up in my graal log alot. especially when I run Graal in fullscreen, after I minimize and maximize the screen, and just before Graal crashes...

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Initialized Direct3D7
Problem locking DirectX surface for writing
Problem locking DirectX surface for writing
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Yeah, i've been having some problems upgrading my Ubuntu. It tried to, then tried to restart. Didn't work.

so whats actually happening with this? are people working on a new graal version to fix all of this or are we all just sitting here and complaining for no reason?

Edited just a tad.

That's what mine says every time.

We are working on a new Graal version which should fix some of those problems.

Awesome! Can't wait for it to be done :D

I'm also having problems displaying all of the emoticons except the Ctrl+Z emote. I'm unsure if anyone else sees the emotes I don't see (haven't asked). The 9-letter filename seems to make a little difference in PM errors, but I still get them. Also as I'm sure it's been stated before; Graal just out of nowhere dies. Other than that (and a few graphics quirks on Kingdoms; such as the Q menu and some of the tutorial icons) everything is going well and running smoothly.

great :) have you got an estimated time of release?

Including minimal Vista x64 support? :x

Yes. I had the same problem, but after a while, I began to see them all again.

Umm on my old labtop(Windows XP) everytime I see something new. Hats, heads and shields they would be updated to my C drive or just already be on there. Yet I only have the heads shields and hat that I wore are in my C drive is this a vista problem or do everyone has this at first?

It's on this same page dude... x_x

I hope stefan gets a fix out soon :*(

no its not :] but thanks for quoting him

Is graal for windows vista going to be out by at least June 1st...? Is there any ETA at all? I'm about to download Linux onto my PS3 and play graal on it.

Can't give a date yet. It is not just a bug fix release.
On PS3 it is probably not running very fast because there is no accelerated OpenGL (and I'm not sure if you can run x86 programs on it).

No, only PowerPC applications. Hopefully release will be soon, getting pretty boring without Graal...

Will VIP status accounts get the first hand BETA testing again?

It wouldn't be a beta release.

:cry: